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[themadcowtipper]

http://web.mid-day.com/news/world/2005/june/112450.htm

Mother sets fire to daughter's rapist
London: Taking the law in her own hands, a Spanish mother set afire a man who raped her teenaged daughter and allegedly taunted her about the assault, a report here said today.

The rapist Antonio Cosme Velasco Soriano, who later succumbed to injuries, had been sent to jail for nine years in 1998, but was let out on a three-day pass and returned to his home town of Benejuzar, 50 km south of Alicante, on the Costa Blanca.

While there, he passed his victim's mother in the street and allegedly taunted her about the attack. He is said to have called out: "How's your daughter?" before heading into a crowded bar, The Sunday Telegraph reported today.

Shortly after, the woman walked into the bar, poured a bottle of petrol over Soriano and lit a match. She watched as the flames engulfed him, before walking out.

The woman fled to Alicante, where she was arrested the same evening. When she appeared in court the next day in the town of Orihuela, she was cheered and clapped by a crowd, who shouted "Bravo!" and "Well done!" the newspaper reported.

A judge ordered her to be held in prison and undergo psychiatric tests, provoking anger from friends and neighbours, who have set up a petition calling for her release.

Soriano suffered 60 per cent burns in the attack on June 13 and later succumbed to injuries

 

[Slo]

Good for her.

 

[NetMapel]

Very well done indeed. Sick sick rapists need to be stoned or burnt to death.

 

[DarienA]

Cop to a manslaughter plea, get a commuted sentence/probation, end of story.

BTW you go girl... a mom's love for their children is strong indeed.

 

[mrmyth]

Poetic justice if Mr. Happy got reduced to extra-crispy.

 

[Kabuki Waq]

that was Badass! give the lady a medal.

 

[belgurdo]

Well done :lol

 

[Shawn]

very well deserved.

i'd like to hear stuff like this more often.

 

[Timo]

this would be the best chick movie ever.


get lifetime on it now.

 

[GhaleonEB]

I approve. Burn, baby, burn.

 

[Baron Aloha]

Good for her.

I was about to post the exact same thing but you saved me the trouble.

 

[shuri]

"Yes they deserved to die and I hope they burn in Hell" is a direct quote from A time to Kill. Also this is a retelling of an old urban legend with that Australian grandmother who cut the balls off the guy who raped his daughter and delivered the balls to a local police station, and she also used some quote from a movie.

This is as true at the zombie dogs experiment from Pittburghs.

 

[themadcowtipper]

"Yes they deserved to die and I hope they burn in Hell" is a direct quote from A time to Kill. Also this is a retelling of an old urban legend with that Australian grandmother who cut the balls off the guy who raped his daughter and delivered the balls to a local police station, and she also used some quote from a movie.

This is as true at the zombie dogs experiment from Pittburghs.

The news story has nothing to do with that quote, I just placed it as my thread title because I thought it was fitting, I also like that line from that movie...

here is another link with the story
http://news.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/06/26/wrape26.xml

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

I disapprove. As a rapist he's evidently doing his time (with... vacations). Just because he continues to evidently be an unrepentant dick doesn't mean covering him in gasoline and setting him on fire should be accepted behavior.

 

[karasu]

That was dumb. Her life is possibly ruined now. If we all reacted how we wanted when we were offended in a horrible way there would be nothing but chaos.

 

[SpeedingUptoStop]

Good job. What an asshole

 

[Baconäger]

That was dumb. Her life is possibly ruined now. If we all reacted how we wanted when we were offended in a horrible way there would be nothing but chaos.

Her life was probably ruined when that scumbag raped her doughter.

 

[Matlock]

I disapprove. As a rapist he's evidently doing his time (with... vacations). Just because he continues to evidently be an unrepentant dick doesn't mean covering him in gasoline and setting him on fire should be accepted behavior.

He broke the law, though.

The law of don't fuck with spanish women.

 

[DarienA]

That was dumb. Her life is possibly ruined now. If we all reacted how we wanted when we were offended in a horrible way there would be nothing but chaos.

Yes...because this was simply about her being offended... I know what you're trying to say... but no.. just... no.

 

[belgurdo]

He broke the law, though.

The law of don't fuck with spanish women.

Well played, chum :lol

bonus nostalgia

 

[Xenon]

sorry I missed it

 

[karasu]

Yes...because this was simply about her being offended... I know what you're trying to say... but no.. just... no.

That is what it's about. :/ Rape is a terrible offense. I understand the feelings behind what she did, but that doesn't make it right. Especially if she ends up in prison over it.

 

[DarienA]

That is what it's about. :/ Rape is a terrible offense. I understand the feelings behind what she did, but that doesn't make it right. Especially if she ends up in prison over it.

Are you reading an article that has more details in it? Where are you getting that this is simply about her being offended?

How do you know it's not about her reliving the pain of having her daughted raped and feeling powerless to be able to do anything about it?

How do you know this isn't then about that frustration and despair turning in to anger at the fact that this man gets a tap on the hand(9 years), and furloughs to boot?

How do you know these things?

 

[Baconäger]

That is what it's about. :/ Rape is a terrible offense. I understand the feelings behind what she did, but that doesn't make it right. Especially if she ends up in prison over it.

You sound like a librul.

 

[Phoenix]

To paraphrase Chris Rock


"I'm not saying she should have set him on fire, but I understand"

 

[karasu]

Are you reading an article that has more details in it? Where are you getting that this is simply about her being offended?

How do you know it's not about her reliving the pain of having her daughted raped and feeling powerless to be able to do anything about it?

How do you know this isn't then about that frustration and despair turning in to anger at the fact that this man gets a tap on the hand(9 years), and furloughs to boot?

How do you know these things?

Why are you responding like I said she was offended because she didn't get her tea on time? Rape is a criminal offense. Replace the word offended wih wronged, screwed, hurt, shit on, whatever. If we all took the law ito our own hands based on how we felt this world would be even more messed up than it is now. She could have burned down that bar, or even worse burned someone else. Sure it might sound cool if it reminds you of something from an action movie, but it's not. If her actions are justified, then all similar actions done for the same reasons are justified, and that's malarky.

 

[PhatSaqs]

Props to Moms.

I'm certain to be in jail if something happened to my daughter.

 

[Baconäger]

Why are you responding like I said she was offended because she didn't get her tea on time? Rape is a criminal offense. Replace the word offended wih wronged, screwed, hurt, shit on, whatever. If we all took the law ito our own hands based on how we felt this world would be even more messed up than it is now. She could have burned down that bar, or even worse burned someone else. Sure it might sound cool if it reminds you of something from an action movie, but it's not. If her actions are justified, then all similar actions done for the same reasons are justified, and that's malarky.

If the police would have just taken this guy behind a building and shot him in the head this wouldn't be a problem.

 

[ManDudeChild]

To paraphrase Chris Rock


"I'm not saying she should have set him on fire, but I understand"

Couldn't put it better myself. What she did was wrong, but it's understandable why she did it. The guy at the very least deserved a serious beat down for darring to taunt her.

 

[God's Hand]

People are so emotional, yeesh.

 

[Kintaro]

To paraphrase Chris Rock


"I'm not saying she should have set him on fire, but I understand"

My thoughts exactly. This will also sound cruel, but I hope she ends up in jail with a murder rap as well. Hey, I understand why she did it. but she did it, and price must be paid. she'll be happy that she just did the act anyways.

 

[The Faceless Master]

she could probably get off with an insanity defense ...

if they actually tried to get her on something big that is ...

"he terrorized her in the street and she just SNAPPED!!!"

 

[DarienA]

Why are you responding like I said she was offended because she didn't get her tea on time? Rape is a criminal offense. Replace the word offended wih wronged, screwed, hurt, shit on, whatever. If we all took the law ito our own hands based on how we felt this world would be even more messed up than it is now. She could have burned down that bar, or even worse burned someone else. Sure it might sound cool if it reminds you of something from an action movie, but it's not. If her actions are justified, then all similar actions done for the same reasons are justified, and that's malarky.

Because there is a difference in the emotional impact(hell even the dictionary definitions) of someone being offended by something vs. someing being screwed, shit on, etc.... being offended is generally not considered a highly emotional state.

And no where do *I* indicate that what she did sounds cool, NOR do I say they were justified actions(stop putting words in my mouth), what I think most of us have said... is(like Chris Rock said) we understand.

 

[karasu]

Because there is a difference in the emotional impact(hell even the dictionary definitions) of someone being offended by something vs. someing being screwed, shit on, etc.... being offended is generally not considered a highly emotional state.

dude first it was a criminal offense, and then he tried to offend her further by taunting her. If it wasn't offensive, no one would give two shits and a giggle. I don't know why you're hung up on that word, it may seem minimalist to you, but it isn't. The offenses were comitted against her and her daughter.

And no where do *I* indicate that what she did sounds cool, NOR do I say they were justified actions(stop putting words in my mouth)

When you cheered her on. But If I was wrong, my bad.

 

[bionic77]

I thought this thread was going to be about the Patriots.

 

[FightyF]

I just wish he didn't die.

 

[DarienA]

dude first it was a criminal offense, and then he tried to offend her further by taunting her. If it wasn't offensive, no one would give two shits and a giggle. I don't know why you're hung up on that word, it may seem minimalist to you, but it isn't. The offenses were comitted against her and her daughter.

Ah(light bulb goes off in head)... now I get it.... I've never heard someone say a person was offended as the past tense of having a criminal offense occur... no one uses the word that way... as a matter of fact I don't even think there is a criminal definition for the word offended.

When you cheered her on. But If I was wrong, my bad.

I can cheer on shit that by the law of man is wrong but I personally have a morale connection and understanding to.

 

[Limedust]

The article doesn't explicitly say that the mother knew that this guy was out on his vacation from prison (what the fuck is up with that, anyway?), so imagine it hit her pretty hard to just see the guy strolling along down the street and taunting her about desecrating her daughter.

If I were in her position, I don't know that I'd have lit him up like a bonfire in the town square, but some sweet, sweet revenge would be on the way.

 

[mrmyth]

If the police would have just taken this guy behind a building and shot him in the dick this wouldn't be a problem.

Fixed for great justice.

 

[tedtropy]

Why are you responding like I said she was offended because she didn't get her tea on time? Rape is a criminal offense. Replace the word offended wih wronged, screwed, hurt, shit on, whatever. If we all took the law ito our own hands based on how we felt this world would be even more messed up than it is now. She could have burned down that bar, or even worse burned someone else. Sure it might sound cool if it reminds you of something from an action movie, but it's not. If her actions are justified, then all similar actions done for the same reasons are justified, and that's malarky.

That's all well and good in a world that plays by the rules and has laws that aren't broken, but we're living in reality. If you think we should be alarmed at one less piece of shit in the world, well, I think you'll be disappointed. Let's do a little role-playing here - say your daughter, wife, girlfriend, favorite Pokemon, whatever is raped. You KNOW who raped her and he's out roaming free and taunting you about it. Now are you going to go "gosh, I better file a complaint through the proper channels" or would you fucking kill his ass? Now that may not seem rational, but pertaining to it being justifiable, I think justice got served to this guy. It certainly beats the variety of justice that allows a rapist to have a VACATION FROM PRISON.

 

[GSG Flash]

Well, he died, that was wrong because he didn't commit a murder. But I can see where the actions of the mother was coming from and I understand. But still, she deserves a penalty for her actions if not just to set an example that not everyone can go around setting people they hate on fire and get away with it. And really, a criminal offense for a criminal offense isn't always a right move.

But the fact that he provoked her by making that statement tells me that he was asking for trouble.

 

[olimario]

Had he been apologetic on the street this never would have happened. The mother obviously felt that jail didn't change him and therefore justice wasn't being served. What good is punishment if it doesn't correct the punishable behavior?

 

[karasu]

That's all well and good in a world that plays by the rules and has laws that aren't broken, but we're living in reality. If you think we should be alarmed at one less piece of shit in the world, well, I think you'll be disappointed. Let's do a little role-playing here - say your daughter, wife, girlfriend, favorite Pokemon, whatever is raped. You KNOW who raped her and he's out roaming free and taunting you about it. Now are you going to go "gosh, I better file a complaint through the proper channels" or would you fucking kill his ass? Now that may not seem rational, but pertaining to it being justifiable, I think justice got served to this guy. It certainly beats the variety of justice that allows a rapist to have a VACATION FROM PRISON.

I would beat the fuck out of him and take my punishment, but I wouldn't SET HIM ON FIRE! A beat down is pretty natural, setting someone on fire is you know, insane.

 

[tedtropy]

I would beat the fuck out of him and take my punishment, but I wouldn't SET HIM ON FIRE! A beat down is pretty natural, setting someone on fire is you know, insane.

I agree with you there and should've been more specific in my original post. As you said, she's endangering others at that point and it is fairly out there. I would've just shot him in the back of the head as he walked away.

 

[DarienA]

I would beat the fuck out of him and take my punishment, but I wouldn't SET HIM ON FIRE! A beat down is pretty natural, setting someone on fire is you know, insane.

karasu do you have any children? Sanity rarely plays a part in defending a child. You don't PLAN to set someone on fire, as I said... just like in various other situations people didn't plan to beat someone in to a coma, etc... but the love that a parent has for a child and seeing or having experienced that child in danger and you with no way to help pushes logic and natural thinking out of the way(that part I can attest to personally).

 

[tedtropy]

Had he been apologetic on the street this never would have happened. The mother obviously felt that jail didn't change him and therefore justice wasn't being served. What good is punishment if it doesn't correct the punishable behavior?

I'm pretty sure the mom's switch was flipped the moment she saw her daughter's rapist FREE AND ROAMING THE STREETS. His being a dick with his comments only furthered that angst. Do you honestly think she gives a damn about his being "rehabilitated"? Would you?

 

[olimario]

I'm pretty sure the mom's switch was flipped the moment she saw her daughter's rapist FREE AND ROAMING THE STREETS. His being a dick with his comments only furthered that angst. Do you honestly think she gives a damn about his being "rehabilitated"? Would you?

I think it would help me personally get over a loved one being raped. It's absolutely better than him taunting her about the rape.

 

[tedtropy]

I think it would help me personally get over a loved one being raped. It's absolutely better than him taunting her about the rape.

I think I'd be a little too filled with hatred to find much solace in the state's ability to reprogram a rapist. Chances are I (and many others) would react in a method similar to this poor mom, albeit maybe not going the human molatav cocktail route...

 

[J2 Cool]

Come on, did you see Scarecrow do it to Batman in Batman Begins? "You need to lighten up". Imagine a spanish chick walking up to a rapist, who threw the fact that he raped her daughter back in her face. Bad ass! But yeah, there were better ways to handle it, with lighter punishments.

 

[radioheadrule83]

One rape, one manslaughter... a little too much shit hitting the fan there.

Two lives ruined, one set on fire and quite literally extinguished from existence.

She's gotta be punished too. Being a relative of a victim doesn't make you above the law or enable you to take it into your own hands. She has killed a man. Whether he deserves it or not, for the sake of the integrity of the law - she's gotta go down.

Now isn't that a waste?