Derpcrawler
Member
I know ranted about this a lot in other threads which was offtopic but I just can't take Sony BS anymore, I tried everything and still PSN works like shit for me. I don't know what to do. I live in China, so I have to resort to buying overpriced imports, waiting for oversea shipments or buying digital. I have both PS4 and Xbox One, as well as PS3/360/Vita. Not a single service including Uplay, Steam or Origin give me as much trouble as PSN. I really want to buy games on PSN despite shitty EU prices, but speeds just don't allow me when it takes 3 days to download average (20-25Gb) game. Recently I was buying games exclusively on Xbox One where I get 100-200Mbps speeds and it takes less than an hour to download 40-50Gb, Child of Light, Trials, Wolfenstein and Watch_Dogs just recent ones.
The only time I get at least 20-30Mbps from PS4 is when I route it through PC using private VPN, even then it's picky in terms of servers, my VPN provider has like 7 servers in Los Angeles through which I get 100-300Mbps, only 1 of them gives me 20-30Mbps on PSN while 200-400Mbps to other services like XBL or Steam, rest give me 3-4Mbps as my main connection (only PSN). How can Sony charge for their shitty service with such shitty CDN which is so picky on routing even to major exchange points and data centers? Watch Dogs was the last straw for me, wanted to download it on PS4, saw 47 hours remaining timer and just said screw it and bought digital version on Xbox One, took me less than 20 minutes to download there. I don't even want to talk about random bullshit maintenance that just D/C you from games, happened at least 5 times to me since launch in Nov where toast pop about PSN downtime and kicks me out of the game for 3-4 hours or more.
Xbox One and PC are both using Wi-Fi AC. I know 2.4Ghz is shitty, but it's not that shitty. Just switching my Wi-Fi adapter on PC to 2.4Ghz mode I still get 70-80Mbps. I actually said fuck it and bought 10m Ethernet cable just for the sake of testing PS4 on wired connection - there is zero difference, so if you going to say "Le Lol, Wi-Fi" or "Lol, shitty chinese internet" just don't bother, since I have decent connection and as I said switching to wire didn't change speeds at all.
Just a few pics so people won't call me a liar:
Xbox One
PS4
My internet speeds to different locations:
All test performed today (except Xbox One, but I think that is not necessary). Realistically is there a way to pressure Sony to fix this? I know, majority probably don't have as much problems, but it still sucks especially when you know for sure that it's Sony a fault here. They became really unresponsive to any criticism or suggestions after PS4 destroyed Xbox One in sales. It took them 6 months to allow us to dim lights on DS4, even though people were asking to allow them to turn it off completely.
On the separate note - didn't Sony learn anything? Why they cheapened out on 5Ghz? They are pushing 4K and all other BS like 1080p 3D streaming which requires bandwidth that 2.4Ghz can't provide. Even Wi-Fi AC in couple of years will become a bottleneck.
/rant
Edit (results):
The only time I get at least 20-30Mbps from PS4 is when I route it through PC using private VPN, even then it's picky in terms of servers, my VPN provider has like 7 servers in Los Angeles through which I get 100-300Mbps, only 1 of them gives me 20-30Mbps on PSN while 200-400Mbps to other services like XBL or Steam, rest give me 3-4Mbps as my main connection (only PSN). How can Sony charge for their shitty service with such shitty CDN which is so picky on routing even to major exchange points and data centers? Watch Dogs was the last straw for me, wanted to download it on PS4, saw 47 hours remaining timer and just said screw it and bought digital version on Xbox One, took me less than 20 minutes to download there. I don't even want to talk about random bullshit maintenance that just D/C you from games, happened at least 5 times to me since launch in Nov where toast pop about PSN downtime and kicks me out of the game for 3-4 hours or more.
Xbox One and PC are both using Wi-Fi AC. I know 2.4Ghz is shitty, but it's not that shitty. Just switching my Wi-Fi adapter on PC to 2.4Ghz mode I still get 70-80Mbps. I actually said fuck it and bought 10m Ethernet cable just for the sake of testing PS4 on wired connection - there is zero difference, so if you going to say "Le Lol, Wi-Fi" or "Lol, shitty chinese internet" just don't bother, since I have decent connection and as I said switching to wire didn't change speeds at all.
Just a few pics so people won't call me a liar:
Xbox One
PS4
My internet speeds to different locations:
Connection from PC to closest speedtest.net server:
San Jose
Los Angeles
My private VPN speeds (server in LA) through which I tried using PSN:
All test performed today (except Xbox One, but I think that is not necessary). Realistically is there a way to pressure Sony to fix this? I know, majority probably don't have as much problems, but it still sucks especially when you know for sure that it's Sony a fault here. They became really unresponsive to any criticism or suggestions after PS4 destroyed Xbox One in sales. It took them 6 months to allow us to dim lights on DS4, even though people were asking to allow them to turn it off completely.
On the separate note - didn't Sony learn anything? Why they cheapened out on 5Ghz? They are pushing 4K and all other BS like 1080p 3D streaming which requires bandwidth that 2.4Ghz can't provide. Even Wi-Fi AC in couple of years will become a bottleneck.
/rant
Edit (results):
I give up guys, I spent more than 400 bucks trying to fix this, first I bought power outlet adapters, same shit, slow ass speeds on PSN. Then I noticed that whenever AC kicks in networks go down with power adapters and gave Sony benefit of the doubt, so I finally went to my land lord asking to allow me to drill shit. He asked for 1200RMB (around 200 bucks) of compensation for "damage" to apartment + another 400RMB for hiring someone. So I got fucking wall drilled and brought router inside the room and connected my fiber modem from outside.
Zero (o, I mean ZERO) fucking difference. I officially give up, I already stopped buying non-exclusive games digitally on PS4 and buying imports. Now I just buy everything except for PS4 exclusives on Xbox One just because of this single "little" problem, despite Xbox One being 720p box with much worse multiform quality.
I can already see how Sony will get ridiculed in Chinese market when they will start selling PS4 in Fall, Xbox One is ready to be sold here and now, at least if looking at it network performance. And no, it's not Chinese servers, check latency in screenshots and videos, I checked sockets and connection XB1 maintaining it connects to IPs in Seattle and San Jose, not a single outgoing or incoming connection to China or Asia for that matter.
Wired test on both:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kaD66ZcLak
Xbox One went from 119Mbps over Wi-Fi to 120-140Mbps, so not a huge change.
PS4 went from 3.5Mbps to 4.5Mbps.
That is it, thread can be closed. Unless other people who have similar problems want to vent their frustration.