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[WeAreStarStuff]

People also shouldn't flip a shit over the possibility that things are horrible. You wait until the situation is actually dire before freaking out.

I agree; there is no reason for people to panic over a few reported incidents; as problems are always more pronounced and brought to attention - tomorrow will be more helpful. I just find it ridiculous that people are trying to create failure statistics.

 

[Zen_Arcade]

Has that ever been common procedure at GAF? But yeah, no reason to freak out yet.

Well yeah, we are on the internet. This type of behavior is commonplace. Im just pointing out how to approach this situation rationally like a good chunk of people here already are.

 

[LiK]

Every system will have issues. Won't be the first or the last.

 

[TheBaronOfNA]

Exactly. They'd just call Sony.

It's ridiculous to think that it's only 8 consoles, when the majority of them are consoles that are in the spotlight(kotaku, ign, reddit user, gaffer, polygon, hi11zone). What are the odds of that?

There have to be more. We just don't know about it. I'm not saying the failure rate is 1000000000%, because of course it isn't but it's larger than what people are downplaying it to be.

I don't understand your logic.

 

[Venturer]

Won't stop me buying one but, definetly thinking of picking up a 2 year warranty.

 

[Dr.Palutena]

I'm glad he's acknowledging it even if it ends up being a minor issue in the long run. I can't say I'm not worried because I'm a paranoid person (heck last year I was in this same spot about the wii u when it was bricking over that firmware update and was having hard locks) , but for now there isn't much to be gleaned from this until more ps4s are out there. I am tempted to maybe probably not download too much stuff but then I also really want to play resogun and contrast.

 

[Jackben]

 

[USC-fan]

Threat level: OMEGA TURQOUISE

Xbox WON!

 

[Jedi2016]

wobble gate
Resolution-gate
all PS4s are Devkits
PS4 has no games
etc

never forget to blow things out of proportion

haha

Is Wobblegate even a thing? I didn't think any of us really cared all that much.

 

[m0t0k1]

7 out of 4700 is a small number?

But that's all of them!

You act like 7 are the only ones who broke down. But it will probably be more except those people are not rambling on the internet. That said everylaunch has his problems. Do think this is still small and people overeact. But once it launches we have to see if the small problem is still small, but most important how sony is going to react to these problems.

 

[Krakn3Dfx]

How do you know its 4700? I thought Taco Bell shipped 2000 consoles?
But yes, even with 2000 consoles it would be <0.5% and there's nothing wrong with that.

Taco Bell's own site said they were giving out 4600 and change in consoles. A little over a week before it was over, they said nearly 4000 people had won.

http://newgamernews.com/taco-bell-says-nearly-4000-people-won-a-ps4-now-giving-away/

 

[Chaplain]

Won't stop me buying one but, definetly thinking of picking up a 2 year warranty.

Same here. $79 for the ability to get a new system without sending it to Sony sounds like a good deal now.

 

[IISANDERII]

Bet mine will fail. I just hope it makes it to December.

[though my PS3 is acting weird lately now that I think of it]

 

[hooligan]

Multiple media outlets having issues? What are the chances of that? Doesn't sound "isolated" to me.

 

[Brohan]

So des ne..... we makuh bunduru!!

 

[Barristan Selmy]

I don't understand your logic.

The odds man the odds...

Really though, if a mathematician got a hold of these numbers and calculated the odds, it'd be more than 0.1% failure rate.

 

[WooHooAlex]

This is just silly; not everyone with a defective unit is going to report it online to the masses.

Mmm, maybe not but I think we'd be hearing about more reports on twitter or something at least.

 

[Bunta]

Multiple media outlets having issues? What are the chances of that? Doesn't sound "isolated" to me.

So, because a media outlet happens to have one of the consoles with an issue, it automatically makes it widespread?

 

[Andronicus]

its like 3 or 4 people reportedly having the issue? & some of you are losing your shit...chill out lol

 

[newsguy]

Let's say for the sake of math it's 8 out of 4000 and there will be 3 million in the wild tomorrow, will you be one of the 6000 in tears?

 

[Skeff]

GreatMess Awaits

Clever.

We'll have to see precisely how big of an issue this is, I'm sure we'll know for sure before EU launch, thanks NA.

 

[Hanmik]

7 you say..? hmmm and Polygon has one, they only use for MP.. hmmm..that explains the 7.5 score they gave the console..

 

[zma1013]

This is just silly; not everyone with a defective unit is going to report it online to the masses.

Why golly, you're right. We should just assume 99% of them are defective until otherwise proven wrong.

 

[TonkuySlon]

Said to be 4000+ consoles out there being used atm.

8 reported defective units...

0.2% defective rate.

PANIC!

Spoiler

Taking the peak ~30% RROD defective rate initially, that's 15000% better!

You can probably easily multiply that number by 10 or 15...Not everyone gets on NeoGaf or twitter to report...

 

[dreamfall]

Yoshida, how I love 'ya!

Here's hoping they are just isolated incidents. I just want my console!

 

[frayne182]

So, because a media outlet happens to have one of the consoles with an issue, it automatically makes it widespread?

Typically that is what happens. If a company as big as IGN has a broken PS4 its going to be known and spread like wildfire. If joe blow in the middle of Texas has a broken PS4 no one will ever know about it most likely.

 

[Cow Goes Moo]

well i'm glad he has acknowledged it

 

[Sweep14]

Just wait for the shitstorm that will occur on week 48 when unaware X1 early buyers will realize they can't play a game without updating...

 

[Oppo]

I just asked him if we should buy Wii U until the issues are sorted out.

Stay classy, Futureman.

 

[HyperBitHero]

Sort WHAT out?

The reported PS4 issues. The topic of this thread.

 

[BruiserBear]

So, because a media outlet happens to have one of the consoles with an issue, it automatically makes it widespread?

When two outlets report having had one die in the first few days, it begins to raise eyebrows.

No, it's not evidence of serious problems. But it is enough to make you wonder.

 

[TheBaronOfNA]

The reported PS4 issues. The topic of this thread.

The endless struggle of hi11zone.

 

[Y2Kev]

The reported PS4 issues. The topic of this thread.

Yes I too hope Sony sorts out the 7 reported issues by march.

 

[Black Door]

Dissatisfied customers are advised to deliver their PS4s to the nearest authorized Sony repair service center

 

[Jest Chillin]

You can probably easily multiply that number by 10 or 15...Not everyone gets on NeoGaf or twitter to report...

Multiply that number by 10 or 15? There could be more but I doubt that a Taco Bell PS4 winner doesn't post on some kind of gaming related forum or another. Hell even just posting about it on their Facebook should garner traction I'd think.

 

[Jonesy7707]

You can probably easily multiply that number by 10 or 15...Not everyone gets on NeoGaf or twitter to report...

Or you could wait to actually hear about ACTUAL incidents as opposed to making shit up.

Just because people don't plaster it all over social media doesn't make incidents any higher, for all we know there could be no more defective units out there or there could be 1000.

 

[ethomaz]

You can share with me these shipped numbers @Yosh

 

[watership]

Welcome to the state of the social media on the internet. Imagine what twitter/blog ports of trouble during the ps1 and ps2 era would have been.

There will be a bigger deal the when the first retail Xbox One fails. The sky will be falling.

 

[Gusto]

I don't even care, I want it and I'm getting it. It has a 1 year warranty for crying out loud.

 

[Crackbone]

You can probably easily multiply that number by 10 or 15...Not everyone gets on NeoGaf or twitter to report...

and if you did multiply it by 15, you'd get a 3% failure rate. ( I don't believe it's that high).

 

[kitsuneyo]

I would think that most probably did. Unhappy customers are always the most vocal, and in 2013 there are many, many ways to be very publicly vocal.

The winners were Taco Bell customers, not all of them will have been gamers. I don't know how many defective PS4s were sent out, I expect not many more than we know about, but the 8/4000 argument is not that useful.

 

[Foghorn Leghorn]

When two outlets report having had one die in the first few days, it begins to raise eyebrows.

No, it's not evidence of serious problems. But it is enough to make you wonder.

2 didn't die. 1 couldn't have the hdmi cable fully inserted and was replaced.

 

[SnakeXs]

Slightly more tactful than "Well, you know, things break."

 

[Coolwhip]

With the photos of the Xbone's insides in mind, the GreatMess for MS will probably be a lot worse.

popcorn.gif

 

[HyperBitHero]

Yes I too hope Sony sorts out the 7 reported issues by march.

Good to know, buddy!

 

[fantomena]

Slightly more tactful than "Well, you know, things break."

 

[foxbeldin]

Do we need a second thread about this?

 

[TheBaronOfNA]

Good to know, buddy!

We need to panic more.

 

[merrick97]

The sad thing is that you will have a small handful of people with console issues and they will be the ones that end on the internet making it look like the issue is much worse than it actually is.

On the otherhand if there does end up being a legit issue every single bit of goodwill that Sony has built up will be gone.

 

[nubbe]

Actually before his time