Star Trek doesn't really need the budget that the reboots have had. I feel like all that CG porn locks these movies into a certain action genre that has never really been the best fit for the franchise. The best Star Trek films have said something about the human condition and that's what I'd want to see more of, not a series of action sequences which are getting increasingly tired with each new film.
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You're suddenly given creative control of Star Trek's future movie output.
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V'ger shows up, Enterprise goes out to meet it. V'ger shoots the Enterprise with one of its electric ball things, and we find out that the ships were transported, not disintegrated (the ol Doctor Who transmat redirect!).
The Enterprise ends up transported through space/time back to Star Trek 2009. CGI Necro-Prime-Spock helps them stop the events that destroy Vulcan, thereby restoring the original timeline. This will include some BTTF 2-style inserting into Star Trek 2009 footage.
End with TOS title sequence (Including Shatner's "these are the voyages" narration) with the music dubbed over CGI retro Enterprise.
The Enterprise ends up transported through space/time back to Star Trek 2009. CGI Necro-Prime-Spock helps them stop the events that destroy Vulcan, thereby restoring the original timeline. This will include some BTTF 2-style inserting into Star Trek 2009 footage.
End with TOS title sequence (Including Shatner's "these are the voyages" narration) with the music dubbed over CGI retro Enterprise.
Red Arremer
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Not necessarily. You could easily make a more somber movie out of that if you make it a political drama where the ship's crew learns about some outside power trying to sabotage the relationship between the Federation and the Tholians. Have them also succeed despite getting caught.
Having a few small space battles is inevitable of course, but you can do a Star Trek movie without having a situation that threatens to wipe out the entire galaxy.
acheron_xl
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I'd tell a story somewhere in the world of the post-Dominion War Trek universe. Doesn't have to be tied to any existing characters or plots. Can be entirely fresh, cast with unknowns. Just get someone like Gary Whitta to see what kind of stories they'd want to tell in that universe.
Count Dookkake
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Taking a cue from A Canticle for Leibowitz, I'd like to get away from action with a serious story that spans multiple time periods, one for each act. From the Enterprise early Starfleet days, to something between TOS and TNG, to a far-flung future never before seen. No time travel, maybe one character appears throughout, but not the main character. These are movies, they don't have to be so much like a TV show in format and structure.
Make a Klingon film trilogy with a fourth film being the next star trek film.
You tell the story of a single Klingon family throughout a 2000 year period in three films culminating in a film where a crazy Klingon Julius Ceasar, who has fought a civil war for control, is hell bent on conquering earth.
You tell the story of a single Klingon family throughout a 2000 year period in three films culminating in a film where a crazy Klingon Julius Ceasar, who has fought a civil war for control, is hell bent on conquering earth.
Pegasus Actual
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Oh sure, you or I could. But could Paramount? When wisecracks and explosions print money every year?
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
Exactly, stop fronting and bring on the klingons.... it's like at this point what are they scared of.
Red Arremer
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Well the scenario proposed by the OP is that we're given creative control of the movies.
Mr_Antimatter
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I always wanted to do a TV show that was more slice of life about what it is to actually live and work in the federation, from the point of view of a starship that wasn't the latest and greatest, where no one has gone before type. Something like an akira, miranda, etc class.
It's an old workhorse that exists to fly the flag, and works more with federation races (and non federation races that live near and around federation space), and would explore stuff like inter-species diplomacy, economics, defense, etc. Set it a decade or more after the end of the dominion war and the destruction of Romulus, prime universe.
How to tie such thought to the movies? Add a lot more politics and character action, on top of the normal action. Kirk doing more diplomacy and snark, and less hooty bang bang. Focus woudl return to the Klingons, who are on the verge of war. If Into Darkness was wraith of Khan, here is where we lay the foundations for kittamer and such.
The twist? The romulins know, thanks to Nero somehow, that their star is doomed. Que them expanding to create new colonies and such. Which brings them into conflict with the klingon empire and federation. And again thanks to nero, they (and the federation) has quite a bit more advanced tech then they should have.
It's an old workhorse that exists to fly the flag, and works more with federation races (and non federation races that live near and around federation space), and would explore stuff like inter-species diplomacy, economics, defense, etc. Set it a decade or more after the end of the dominion war and the destruction of Romulus, prime universe.
How to tie such thought to the movies? Add a lot more politics and character action, on top of the normal action. Kirk doing more diplomacy and snark, and less hooty bang bang. Focus woudl return to the Klingons, who are on the verge of war. If Into Darkness was wraith of Khan, here is where we lay the foundations for kittamer and such.
The twist? The romulins know, thanks to Nero somehow, that their star is doomed. Que them expanding to create new colonies and such. Which brings them into conflict with the klingon empire and federation. And again thanks to nero, they (and the federation) has quite a bit more advanced tech then they should have.
Pegasus Actual
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Well the scenario proposed by the OP is that we're given creative control of the movies.
Well, the scenario was "If you're the bigwig, and you want these movies to succeed going forward, what do you do?"
I want them to succeed? Then I'm making a big stupid action movie too! Get Michael Bay on the line! Shia LeBouf, playing a grown up Wesley Crusher finds an ancient Borg relic and inadvertently wakes up... wait for it... ANCIENT BORG DINOOOSAUUUUUURRRRS!! Can we get Chris Pratt onboard as son of Jean-Luc, Captain Rex Picard?
Jeffolation
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Get JJ back and go looking for Spock.
Red Arremer
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One thing I definitely would want is Jeff Combs being cast as something, preferably an antagonist.
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Well I guess to me a "success" is not purely financial, and rather something that potentially kickstarts a new series (TV or movies, or both), and also revives the fans' interest.
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Well I guess to me a "success" is not purely financial, and rather something that potentially kickstarts a new series (TV or movies, or both), and also revives the fans' interest.
I would suggest that Star Trek has always excelled in the TV format, and to put their money into that.
Me, I am interested in a TV series following the few remaining romulan ships after their home blows up and they find themselves at the mercy of a quadrant that hates them.
That's what I would do.
Me, I am interested in a TV series following the few remaining romulan ships after their home blows up and they find themselves at the mercy of a quadrant that hates them.
That's what I would do.
Eh...TOS was an action show. I'm watching through it right now and there's a fight scene in literally every episode, sometimes multiple fights. I don't know about later series but TOS is definitely heavy on action.
Bobby Roberts
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Let Pine's crew do their Mirror Universe movie where Kirk has to fight evil George/Thor, and call it a day for those guys.
Immediately greenlight a Deep Space Nine set in that same universe.
Immediately greenlight a Deep Space Nine set in that same universe.
Inceptional
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As someone who loved Beyond, it still felt too safe. I want a more Naval-type thriller in the vein of A Hunt for Red October. They need to get back to the more heady sci-fi concepts too and step back from the popcorn entertainment they turned the series into. Imagine a film where they are flying blind and have no defenses and have to deal with an enemy that's hunting the them down. I would also like it to feel more claustrophobic, hardly ever seeing outside the Enterprise. Also, give the movie some real stakes and kill some main crew members.
rootbeerafloat
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Old Man Picard
itwasTuesday
He wasn't alone.
Whatever gets planned, definitely keep Lin directing.
LumpOfCole
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A klingon and a vulcan enter a time vortex and get stuck in late 20th century earth, and are forced to work together as undercover cops while uncovering a mystery that will reveal a secret that reshapes earth's future in the Federation.
It'll be called Star Trek: Code of Honor
It'll be called Star Trek: Code of Honor
SMG
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Beyond was shit, keep Lin away to his own shit rather then ruining things with potential.
Prototype Viktor
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Make all humans female, all aliens male, give the films to TV writers only. Only non American/British directors
Himynameischris
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I personally loved 2009 and Beyond (while I thought ID was good)
I say keep the cast and make another, I like that it's doing it's own thing and isn't tied down to the lore from TOS anymore.
As for the show, I'd scrap what they are doing with Discovery and reboot it but after DS9/Voyager. They focus too much on the TOS era timeline. We can do the future justice now with TV CGI, let's see it.
I say keep the cast and make another, I like that it's doing it's own thing and isn't tied down to the lore from TOS anymore.
As for the show, I'd scrap what they are doing with Discovery and reboot it but after DS9/Voyager. They focus too much on the TOS era timeline. We can do the future justice now with TV CGI, let's see it.
Beren the Empty-Handed
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Either do a fish out of water story like Voyage Home, or just burn the whole thing to the ground and focus on tv.
And make sure the people in the US can watch the damn tv show on a service that they use, for fuck's sake.
And make sure the people in the US can watch the damn tv show on a service that they use, for fuck's sake.
FinaruDensetsu
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The only one that was even half decent was the first one with the time travel. The rest have been such brainless action flicks (first one is pretty brainless too but at least it had more star trek like themes). The first movie is also further enhanced with the IDW comics that bridged old trek with the new alternate universe trek.
So at this point if we're in for more 2 Trek 2 Furious then I'd say just end it all. I can be satisfied just doing my 5th marathon viewing of all the TV series and original movies.
So at this point if we're in for more 2 Trek 2 Furious then I'd say just end it all. I can be satisfied just doing my 5th marathon viewing of all the TV series and original movies.
FinaruDensetsu
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He's my fellow Taiwanese brethren but hellllllllllll no. Go back to fast and the furious 19.
Definitely don't want JJ coming back.
Peter Weller saved the movie for me, he's really fantastic in it.
nekkid
It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan.
I'd love a movie version of Shatner's "The Return", where the Borg reincarnate Kirk, and the TNG crew go to the Borg homeworld to destroy it and rescue him.
It's actually better than my shitty synopsis...
FinaruDensetsu
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Well yeah, I don't want either of them back.
Aquavelvaman
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First of all, bring back Hand Solo. It was so stupid what they did to him, lame.
Second, more Darth Vader! That was pretty cool in the last movie.
I would like to see a remake of the Hoth fight with AT-AT walkers too. It doesn't have to be on Hot but it could be, who knows? Maybe instead of an ice planet it can be underwater?
Finally, Yoda! 'nuff said!!!
Second, more Darth Vader! That was pretty cool in the last movie.
I would like to see a remake of the Hoth fight with AT-AT walkers too. It doesn't have to be on Hot but it could be, who knows? Maybe instead of an ice planet it can be underwater?
Finally, Yoda! 'nuff said!!!
ThoseDeafMutes
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If I want to keep my job:
Get JJ back and do high octane Trek movies with release schedules designed to dodge whatever Disney has coming out.
If I don't want to keep my job:
Tea up Dennis Villeneuve and Roger Deakin to do <80mln budgeted Trek movies with a focus on an even mix of high concept scifi and interstellar politics.
Get JJ back and do high octane Trek movies with release schedules designed to dodge whatever Disney has coming out.
If I don't want to keep my job:
Tea up Dennis Villeneuve and Roger Deakin to do <80mln budgeted Trek movies with a focus on an even mix of high concept scifi and interstellar politics.
nekkid
It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan.
I understand what your getting at, but to be honest, the Trek movies have always been more action orientated. They have to draw in the crowds. I'm not sold on the direction of the new films, but they do kinda fit the TOS 'let's go on an adventure and punch and alien' vibe. I think most people just want more TNG / Ds9.
nekkid
It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
Make a movie that doesn't have earth in it.
Have an actor like Jake gyllenhaal in it and it deals with time and shit. And Johnny Depp shows up at the end for the sequel
Have an actor like Jake gyllenhaal in it and it deals with time and shit. And Johnny Depp shows up at the end for the sequel
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