Youtube will now hide dislike bar
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DragoonKain
Neighbours from Hell
The dislike count seems to have returned for me today after being gone yesterday…
Dream-Knife
Banned
It's still there for me.
dr_octagon
Banned
They missed an opportunity to sell dislikes tokens. $1 = 100, $3.50 = 720, $66 = 666 and $69 = 9001.
neogaf doesn't have a dislike button...
DragoonKain
Neighbours from Hell
Seems to be there in app, not there in browser.
PSYGN
Member
I must be weird; I've never checked either Likes or Dislikes before deciding to watch a YT video.
I often use it when trying to find reviews of things. Usually if it's vastly disliked then it's a bot that scraped images and product descriptions into a slideshow.
QuantumZebra
Member
Yeah this is horseshit.
I watch tons of how-to videos on guns/instruments/etc... how the fuck am I supposed to know they're teaching/showing the wrong shit (or its a clickbait video)???
If they're trying to stop brigading then they need to make it to where the creator and turn off likes/dislikes completely and it has a disclaimer or something.
Flutta
Banned
There're a bunch of alternatives out there. Problem is its hard for them to compete. That damn YT app is basically everywhere, we talking TV's, consoles, phones etc the list goes on.
When big content creaters leave YT in droves and somehow manages to take their followers with them then we might see a big shift. Eitherway what says that these YT competitors wont do the same thing, caving for the big corpos?
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
People trying to say this is about protecting snowflakes or sensitive people or whatever are missing the bigger picture. YouTube doesn't give two shits about how certain people feel. This is all about protecting large corporations from backlash and media stories about how their latest game or movie was disliked into oblivion.
This is about companies like EA and Activision having their latest game trailer disliked into Oblivion and then instead of having a whole bunch of media coverage about their new game or its new trailer there are a bunch of stories about how everyone disliked said trailer or game. The same thing goes for the movie industry, the commercial industry, or any other kind of industry that you can think of. These companies don't want stories about their latest product flopping or being disliked. They just want to see stories about how it just came out and how new it is. Not about how people feel about it.
This is about corporations not people.
This is about companies like EA and Activision having their latest game trailer disliked into Oblivion and then instead of having a whole bunch of media coverage about their new game or its new trailer there are a bunch of stories about how everyone disliked said trailer or game. The same thing goes for the movie industry, the commercial industry, or any other kind of industry that you can think of. These companies don't want stories about their latest product flopping or being disliked. They just want to see stories about how it just came out and how new it is. Not about how people feel about it.
This is about corporations not people.
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Halo is Back
Member
Amazing, he just said, "Hey, you will get used to it." They give 0 fucks what viewers or creators say. It's honestly impressive how arrogant they become, yet everyone goes back to using the platform anyway.
Ionian
Member
Most people don't. Most are sincere from what I have seen?I disagree completely.
This is one reason I don't really enjoy using Reddit. Try posting a truly unpopular opinion on there in one of the gaming subreddits. You'll get downvoted like crazy and most people won't try and actually have a conversation with you. To me it would just bring a negative energy to the forum.
I never realised some people use the Empathy reaction like that.
Dunno the stats though.
navii
My fantasy is that my girlfriend was actually a young high school girl.
Tldr: they don't want you to bite the hand that feeds them.
No corp wants to spend $ on marketing only to be shown how disliked they / their product / their content is.
If it's about mental health, well how about offer mental health services to your content creators, but it's a loteasier lazier and more profitable and cheaper to turn off the dislikes count.
If there is one thing I've learnt working with corporations, is that they prefer to look like they are doing something good, rather than actually making an effort in doing something good.
No corp wants to spend $ on marketing only to be shown how disliked they / their product / their content is.
If it's about mental health, well how about offer mental health services to your content creators, but it's a lot
If there is one thing I've learnt working with corporations, is that they prefer to look like they are doing something good, rather than actually making an effort in doing something good.
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Dream-Knife
Banned
Anyone who thinks this decision is about some aspect of monetization and not directly an attempt to control political speech and obscure populist sentiment in order to control narratives hasn't been paying attention. This entire exercise of theirs only began once the Biden White House started receiving 10:1 dislikes to likes (YT had first mentioned possibly removing the dislike button within 1-2 months of Biden being sworn in and posting videos), and it has now resurfaced/intensified due to public reaction to COVID and vaccine-related videos. Folks shouldn't be willfully blind to this. This is part and parcel of the emerging technocracy, and should scare everyone who grew up in an actually free country.
It's a lot harder to control narratives and make people think that theirs is a fringe opinion by bombarding them with unified, filtered messaging across all mainstream news outlets/corporate messaging/social media (all part of the technocracy) when those people can see that videos supporting those narratives have 5 or 10 times as many dislikes as likes, and videos running counter to the prevailing narratives have precisely the opposite. The intent is to control the narratives, further solidify their grip on public opinion, and not allow people to be able to gauge real public sentiment.
It's a lot harder to control narratives and make people think that theirs is a fringe opinion by bombarding them with unified, filtered messaging across all mainstream news outlets/corporate messaging/social media (all part of the technocracy) when those people can see that videos supporting those narratives have 5 or 10 times as many dislikes as likes, and videos running counter to the prevailing narratives have precisely the opposite. The intent is to control the narratives, further solidify their grip on public opinion, and not allow people to be able to gauge real public sentiment.
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Yep, I knew it was getting slowly worse, but now it's getting pretty bad. With deepfakes, suppression of speech/ideas, and hiding of dissenting opinions (mrwhoseboss had a good video about the dissenting opinion hiding by social media to increase retention), I worry about the upcoming generations.
Javthusiast
Banned
Already changed for me on mobile and ipad.
Torrent of Pork
Banned
For all their bullshit no corporation wants any more 'engagement' with their customers beyond, "Consume product, then get excited for next product."
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
"It's about mental health and protecting creators from the harm of seeing their videos get dislikes"
"Creators will still be able to see the number of dislikes in their dashboard"
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Correct. It's all big copro nonsense. It's nothing to do with protecting the average joe content creator.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
They never even invited any small content creators to these meetings leading up to this. That is all a bunch of BS to try to get people behind it and play on their emotions for support.
This is about the big corpo geopolitical machine. Can't let anyone see the vast amounts that are awake via ratio to the constant marketed ganda.
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Aesius
Member
Combine this with bots/shills being everywhere on social media and it will soon be virtually impossible to tell what's "popular" and what isn't.
HermitSperg691
Banned
How am I going to avoid shitty video tutorials on how to download viruses from Indian scammers?
Halo is Back
Member
They will remove comments too. Just wait
carlosrox
Banned
I don't really give a shit about it either however the very principle behind it is total horseshit.
Soodanim
Member
Google might be greedy, but they're not stupid. They know there's only so far you can push a user base before alternatives become viable. Besides, comments being disabled has been an option for everyone for a very long time. Anyone who wants that option already has it.
It's unlikely google would. Noticing lots of videos with comments turned off unfortunately.
Even open it's a slightly higher hurdle to organize people to make comments than to dislike something. And comments can be interacted with making them time sinks and contestable. As a general deterrent to "mobs", only disabling dislikes may be enough since that little bit more commitment to a campaign may be enough effort to disuade with more immediate things going on in a regular person's life taking greater priority. Activists won't be slowed down from commenting and campaigning, but their ability to amplify with casual support is diminished.
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Halo is Back
Member
I fail to see how this will reduce "culture wars" considering the fact political channels do it for money by outrage performance and clickbait. Again, YouTubers already had the power to remove likes/dislikes and comments. All this does is take away a feature people like.
HoodWinked
Member
first youtube video uploaded by one of the co-founders changed the description on his video to:
When every YouTuber agrees that removing dislikes is a stupid idea, it probably is. Try again, YouTube
The downvote tally is announced as part of their narrative when they attack something. "Our view against is more popular than for it". It's a feature that is used as a tool to manipulate narrative by making an aggrieved group appear more broadly supported than they are.
Those that sell downvote bots might be the most put out by this change.
Youtube's original rating system with the stars was better and feature people liked, but that was changed to give less info and people got over it. They'll get over this.
This isn't the only reason youtube would do this. The economic suggestions are plausible, if not the supporting reasoning, and there's no reason for it to be done for only one purpose.
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MidGenRefresh
*Refreshes biennially
Dislike count is gone in my region. Upvoting comments will be cut next. I 100% guarantee it.
You're almost correct. I would tell you exactly why YouTube is making this move but sadly Politics are not allowed on this forum.
You're almost correct. I would tell you exactly why YouTube is making this move but sadly Politics are not allowed on this forum.
Great Hair
Banned
Userscript, tested on Tampermonkey
https://github.com/Anarios/return-y...ons/UserScript/Return Youtube Dislike.user.js
Gone in my region now. Minor peeve about losing the specific number of likes from hovering as collateral. Sometimes check in on the likes after posting videos to see if it changes.
1st day was about 10:1 views/likes for these. Possibly repeat views trend it down after a day.
Those in the 100,000-500,000 view range after a few months is about 20:1 for well liked stuff.
Rough and obv purely anecdotal based on my viewing habits.
Watched that ratio for about a week with new very popular stuff like Swift's releases and Spiderman trailer.
1st day was about 10:1 views/likes for these. Possibly repeat views trend it down after a day.
Those in the 100,000-500,000 view range after a few months is about 20:1 for well liked stuff.
Rough and obv purely anecdotal based on my viewing habits.
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