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Ys Community Thread | "Do you know the name Adol Christin?"
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Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
That's actually one of the fights I had in mind. I was 34 when I did the fight though so it wasn't as easy for me.
Dragoon En Regalia
Member
Did the elixir business in Xanadu Next...I suspected Agnes was
's daughter the whole time, nice to see I got the final Guardian for my trouble. There's enough material here for a Xanadu Next Scenario II where you play as her instead of this game's hero, interacting with Xanadu's sages while on another quest.
Anyone here want me to make an LTTP for this?
Lord Lyndale
Anyone here want me to make an LTTP for this?
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Did you run into this bug? I gave up at that point, since there are even more of those enemies further in the dungeon. I'm guessing the translation patch screwed something up and caused that.
Dragoon En Regalia
Member
Thankfully no, but I would have given up then as well and just waited for Sara to fix it up a year or two from now. Master Goblins aren't that annoying otherwise, it's the Liches you need to kill quick.
Hi Ys Community
I had played some Ys Origin a couple years back and I finished Ys: Memories of Celceta, but I figured it was about time to fill the gaps.
I played through Ys Chronicle 1 today, just did normal mode for now. Short, simple, and sweet, I enjoyed it! And the pace is definitely appreciated after marathonning through much of the lengthy Suikoden games. Ys 1 is certainly not too intricate, but I really liked how the game flowed in general. Some of the structure in the tower dungeon reminded me of Brandish, despite that being set on a grid.
Maybe going forward I'll post more in-progress thoughts or whatever.
I had played some Ys Origin a couple years back and I finished Ys: Memories of Celceta, but I figured it was about time to fill the gaps.
I played through Ys Chronicle 1 today, just did normal mode for now. Short, simple, and sweet, I enjoyed it! And the pace is definitely appreciated after marathonning through much of the lengthy Suikoden games. Ys 1 is certainly not too intricate, but I really liked how the game flowed in general. Some of the structure in the tower dungeon reminded me of Brandish, despite that being set on a grid.
Maybe going forward I'll post more in-progress thoughts or whatever.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
True that. Ys II improves on just about every aspect.
BassForever
Member
I still stand by my gripe that Ys 2 leaned too much on the fire ball mechanic for fighting bosses. The best fights in ys 2 were the final two where you couldn't use your fireball spell imo
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Also the easiest fights honestly.
Finished Ys II. Totally possible I'm a moron and didn't realize this in Ys I, but diagonal movement seemed to be easily abused haha. I rarely used fireballs, only against some of the bosses.
It was fun, got lost a few times but luckily the pace of the game mitigates any frustration there. The Solomin Shrine music is my favorite so far btw.
Gonna play Ys Origin next, which I'm already a bit familiar with but never finished.
It was fun, got lost a few times but luckily the pace of the game mitigates any frustration there. The Solomin Shrine music is my favorite so far btw.
Gonna play Ys Origin next, which I'm already a bit familiar with but never finished.
BassForever
Member
They specifically mention at the start of Ys 2 that you should go for diagonal bumps
SatelliteOfLove
Member
Ys 1 is...wierd. I can smell the Reagan-era PC design on it still in Chronicles and one level up and one new gear turns a boss from a delicate dance of death with the cards stacked against you to a 4-hit breeze. And I thought Oath was coarse!
Hah! What is this, the Falcom High School Show?
Hah! What is this, the Falcom High School Show?
Se7enSword
Banned
I use the 2nd pronunciation.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Se7enSword
Banned
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
I think two say Do-ji, but in both cases it seems like it might be intentional mispronounced as an insult.
Or maybe the voice actor just said it wrong and since it was a joke line they didn't bother correcting it. If Tom looked in this thread at all maybe he could comment.
I can't recall at this point, as that was over 4 years ago now. But I think it's a combination of the two. I do know some of the VAs had trouble with Dogi's name, even after saying it numerous times -- they just couldn't resist the temptation of calling him "DO-jee" for some reason.
But since these were outtakes (either scripted or not -- the Chester "EAT IIIIT!" outtake was not!), a few of the VAs just decided to have fun with it and intentionally mispronounce names.
-Tom
Dragoon En Regalia
Member
Always been Ah-dull and Doh-gi for me, but I'd love to call him Dog-ee if that's ever kosher.
So since my last post I finished Oath in Felghana, Ys Origin, Ark of Napishtim, and Ys Seven.
Just some quick thoughts for now:
Napishtim was probably the most disappointing. I can give it some concessions knowing it's the first of its style, but I wasn't too fond of the three sword system, it probably has the most tedious platforming, bosses weren't too interesting, and the enemy balance felt 'off'. Still not a bad game, but certainly outclassed by the titles that came later
Oath in Felghana on the other hand might be my favorite game in the series. A number of fun boss battles, especially the final one which might be my favorite battle in the series. Platforming was a little better - tricky enough not to be trivial but not too much to be frustrating. Narrative stays concise and works to drive the game forward. OiF also added a small but appropriate level of 'backtracking' in using new abilities to reach chests in old area, mostly for ore. Kinda wish there were more Ys games like this one.
Ys Origin is definitely up there too. Storywise, it's the most interesting in seeing how everything sets up for Ys Chronicles. Like Oath in Felghana, fun and fast-paced but still easy to get into. Challenging enough at certain points (boss battles or otherwise) to keep things interesting. Some really great music too. Yunica > Toal > Hugo btw. (random note, I didn't know how to properly fight the sand boss until the third time through)
I wrote this about Ys Seven in another thread
The story in Ys7 was super duper generic. A few decent characters though otherwise.
Anyways, bring on Ys 8.
Just some quick thoughts for now:
Napishtim was probably the most disappointing. I can give it some concessions knowing it's the first of its style, but I wasn't too fond of the three sword system, it probably has the most tedious platforming, bosses weren't too interesting, and the enemy balance felt 'off'. Still not a bad game, but certainly outclassed by the titles that came later
Oath in Felghana on the other hand might be my favorite game in the series. A number of fun boss battles, especially the final one which might be my favorite battle in the series. Platforming was a little better - tricky enough not to be trivial but not too much to be frustrating. Narrative stays concise and works to drive the game forward. OiF also added a small but appropriate level of 'backtracking' in using new abilities to reach chests in old area, mostly for ore. Kinda wish there were more Ys games like this one.
Ys Origin is definitely up there too. Storywise, it's the most interesting in seeing how everything sets up for Ys Chronicles. Like Oath in Felghana, fun and fast-paced but still easy to get into. Challenging enough at certain points (boss battles or otherwise) to keep things interesting. Some really great music too. Yunica > Toal > Hugo btw. (random note, I didn't know how to properly fight the sand boss until the third time through)
I wrote this about Ys Seven in another thread
The story in Ys7 was super duper generic. A few decent characters though otherwise.
Anyways, bring on Ys 8.
Yeah, Ys7 feels about ten hours longer than it needs to be. The endless dialogue is a major contributor, which wouldn't be a problem if the characters were saying things that were interesting.
tearsofash
Member
Is there a legal way to play the TGCD version of Ys I and II that doesn't involve a Nintendo system? Do any of the remakes contain the original as an extra or something? 
BassForever
Member
Basically agree with everything, though I will say that Ys 7 has a guard mechanic like MoC that once you learn how to use it the combat becomes way too easy due to the bonus you get from flash guarding. MoC had worse combat if only because you got that bonus from guarding or dodging and the timing for either was extremely loose meaning you were always in super speed mode or in zero damage mode.
MoC has the same problem I feel. it feels kind of indicative of the party formula where every event means that every talks about everything. Which is fine but leads to some repetition.
At least 7 didn't have the nerve to have MoC's ending though,
I liked how in Oath or Origin that an occasional major event happens and Adol's just left afterwards in silence because no-one else is in the room to go "Oh! What was that?!"
I do love Ys 7's colosseum fight though. That is a lot of fun on Nightmare.
Tizoc
Member
Is there a legal way to play the TGCD version of Ys I and II that doesn't involve a Nintendo system? Do any of the remakes contain the original as an extra or something?
I do believe these games are on JP PSN, playable on a PSP, PS3 or Vita.
Ah, I forgot that dodging in Celceta gives an SP(?) bonus but sounds familiar now that you mention it.
BassForever
Member
It slows down time so that your party moves really fast and can get several hits in before the boss returns to normal speed.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
I was definitely ready for Seven to end well before it did, and the fact you lost all your warp points and had to get them again was kind of annoying.
I didn't use flash guard in that or MoC though, so I can't really comment on how that impacts the game. My opinion on the mechanic as a whole is that it kind of takes away from the combat and boss battles. In the prior games the goal was to learn the patterns and avoid attacks while taking advantages of openings to deal damage. Simple but challenging and rewarding. Flash guarding basically gives you the option to screw up or be overly risky in a way you couldn't previously, then with decent timing avoid being punished for it. I guess some people may like that risk-reward mechanism, but I just ignore it. Just like Napishtim's healing items (thank you for Catastrophe mode, XSEED).
I didn't use flash guard in that or MoC though, so I can't really comment on how that impacts the game. My opinion on the mechanic as a whole is that it kind of takes away from the combat and boss battles. In the prior games the goal was to learn the patterns and avoid attacks while taking advantages of openings to deal damage. Simple but challenging and rewarding. Flash guarding basically gives you the option to screw up or be overly risky in a way you couldn't previously, then with decent timing avoid being punished for it. I guess some people may like that risk-reward mechanism, but I just ignore it. Just like Napishtim's healing items (thank you for Catastrophe mode, XSEED).
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Flash Guard is pretty much there for Nightmare mode, using it outside of it is overkill. Not using it in nightmare mode makes the fights take way too long with WAY too much risk for the fight duration.
I didn't even know about Flash Guard until the colosseum fight, and then I forgot about it.
How much harder is Nightmare in that game compared to Hard, anyways? Maybe it was the party system or healing items, but Ys Seven, aside from a few bosses, seemed much easier than Origin or Oath.
How much harder is Nightmare in that game compared to Hard, anyways? Maybe it was the party system or healing items, but Ys Seven, aside from a few bosses, seemed much easier than Origin or Oath.
I can't even imagine playing Ys 7 on Nightmare. Hard was annoying enough, with the HP sponge bosses.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
6-7 minute fights are not that bad. You need flash guard to build meter to damage faster.
and not get melted
Se7enSword
Banned
Finally got around to perfecting Ys VI.
Majunun really pissed me off when he kicked me out of the room twice
Totally worth it though.
Majunun really pissed me off when he kicked me out of the room twice
Totally worth it though.
Not exactly Ys, but I'm having issues running Xanadu Next. I haven't ran it in awhile, but I was seeing how all my old programs ran after updating to Windows 10. I think the update ruined it? Game flashes black like crazy. Was wondering if that happened to anyone else or if anyone found a fix.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Playing Ys Seven again and then Celceta again after this.
I really prefer these games over the Ys VI engine stuff the more I play them, such fast fluid games. I don't even understand why people bring up guard being abused like they didn't abuse guard in Oath and Origin
I really prefer these games over the Ys VI engine stuff the more I play them, such fast fluid games. I don't even understand why people bring up guard being abused like they didn't abuse guard in Oath and Origin
Dragoon En Regalia
Member
Does it do all that with or without the English patch (including resolution fix)? The game's old enough that it probably needs work from a professional like XSEED's Sara to gooey it up for W10.
I'll have to try it without the english patch tomorrow to see. I don't think I applied any resolution fix either, so I'll look into that as well.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
WHY!?
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
It's certainly a memory for you to always cherish.
I don't even understand why people bring up guard being abused like they didn't abuse guard in Oath and Origin
Guard...ing?
I'm somewhat close (I think) to beating Felghana and I'm 8-9 hours in. I ended up playing them in chronological order because that's the order I purchased them, and I still don't understand how Game Sack considered Origin be worthy of being a $5 DLC to Felghana at best. Maybe because it's a PC exclusive.
Oath in Felghana is a fantastic game, but you can tell it's a remake of a 2d platformer. I'm going to want to check the original after I'm done with the remake.