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Ys: Memories of Celceta |OT|: The Ys-iest Purchase You'll Make All Year (Now For EUs)
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Dead Prince
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fedex just dropped off my package. hopefully someone is home to get it D:.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
The download size is only 784 megs according to what I'm seeing, for those who are low on space.
I'd love to see someone do an in-depth study of how size affects game sales on the Vita, given how outrageously expensive storage is on the device.
I passed up on buying the MGS collection several times because it was too damn big for my fridge. (4 gig card).
zerokoolpsx
Member
My package is delivered. Can't wait to get home.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Hmm from the Ys sale, if you had to choose just one due to time constraints, Seven or Oath in Felghana?
The PC version of OiF is better so I'd rather get it on Steam. Seven is only available in the West on PSP so you might as well get that. The PC ver of Seven is bad anyway, riddled with Chinese DRM since it's a China-only PC port.
I don't think so. NISA is publishing it in Europe, they usually release physical versions of their games (also if it were digital only XSeed would probably have published it themselves).
Whew! Lots of questions since I last checked this topic. I'm going to do my best to answer as many as I can, but if I missed yours, sorry about that!
Supposedly, there was a PSP version of Ys Origin being considered for a while, but as I understand it, the game didn't do particularly well in Japan largely because of the lack of Adol. Japanese Ys fans did not take kindly to an Ys game without him, and some have even taken the "pretend the game doesn't even exist" route, not counting it as official canon.
Because the Japanese market for it is so limited, it seems unlikely Falcom will ever port it, but... you never know!
Er, I guess you missed the link to the topic saying that the fan-translation is almost done and should be released soon?
It's a possibility, for sure!
Problem is, Sen no Kiseki is basically Trails 6. And we're only just now finishing up work on Trails 2. If we skip ahead, there are going to be a LOT of plot points that go right over everyone's heads, and a lot of content that's spoiled from Trails 3-5.
I understand the desire to play the newest game in the series, and the story is supposedly standalone enough that it's at least feasible, but I'm just not sure it's a good idea...
Actually, we dub a lot of games! More than we leave undubbed, in fact. The only time we leave any game undubbed is when (A) we can actually get the Japanese voice rights (which is sadly kind of a rarity), and (B) we can't afford the hefty cost of dubbing the script for a dual audio release.
It's hard to say which game is best to start with, since that depends SO MUCH on your own personal gaming preferences. The general rule of thumb, though, is that if you're an old-school gamer who likes a good challenge (i.e. the sort of person who enjoys Demon's Souls), Ys: The Oath in Felghana is almost certainly your best bet. If you've been weened more on modern RPGs, however, then starting with Ys Seven or Ys Celceta would be advisable.
You can start with any of the other games, too, but Ys I & II are very different from any other readily-available title (and much more old-school), Ys: The Ark of Napishtim is a bit outdated compared to Felghana and Origin, and Ys Origin is largely meant for people who've already played Ys I & II (and has a lot of references and general fanservice that might go over your head if you haven't), so I think Felghana, Seven and Celceta all make better starting points.
Hmm? No, almost every PS1 classic is Vita-compatible at this point, as are the majority of PSP games -- including all three of our Ys titles (though not Napishtim, but I don't even think that's on PSN at all). No worries at all there.
It's a definite possibility.
No, NIS America is planning to do a physical release as well AFAIK, though it's unknown if there will be an LE.
-Tom
Supposedly, there was a PSP version of Ys Origin being considered for a while, but as I understand it, the game didn't do particularly well in Japan largely because of the lack of Adol. Japanese Ys fans did not take kindly to an Ys game without him, and some have even taken the "pretend the game doesn't even exist" route, not counting it as official canon.
Because the Japanese market for it is so limited, it seems unlikely Falcom will ever port it, but... you never know!
Er, I guess you missed the link to the topic saying that the fan-translation is almost done and should be released soon?
It's a possibility, for sure!
Problem is, Sen no Kiseki is basically Trails 6. And we're only just now finishing up work on Trails 2. If we skip ahead, there are going to be a LOT of plot points that go right over everyone's heads, and a lot of content that's spoiled from Trails 3-5.
I understand the desire to play the newest game in the series, and the story is supposedly standalone enough that it's at least feasible, but I'm just not sure it's a good idea...
Actually, we dub a lot of games! More than we leave undubbed, in fact. The only time we leave any game undubbed is when (A) we can actually get the Japanese voice rights (which is sadly kind of a rarity), and (B) we can't afford the hefty cost of dubbing the script for a dual audio release.
It's hard to say which game is best to start with, since that depends SO MUCH on your own personal gaming preferences. The general rule of thumb, though, is that if you're an old-school gamer who likes a good challenge (i.e. the sort of person who enjoys Demon's Souls), Ys: The Oath in Felghana is almost certainly your best bet. If you've been weened more on modern RPGs, however, then starting with Ys Seven or Ys Celceta would be advisable.
You can start with any of the other games, too, but Ys I & II are very different from any other readily-available title (and much more old-school), Ys: The Ark of Napishtim is a bit outdated compared to Felghana and Origin, and Ys Origin is largely meant for people who've already played Ys I & II (and has a lot of references and general fanservice that might go over your head if you haven't), so I think Felghana, Seven and Celceta all make better starting points.
Hmm? No, almost every PS1 classic is Vita-compatible at this point, as are the majority of PSP games -- including all three of our Ys titles (though not Napishtim, but I don't even think that's on PSN at all). No worries at all there.
It's a definite possibility.
No, NIS America is planning to do a physical release as well AFAIK, though it's unknown if there will be an LE.
-Tom
Such a shame. It's one of my favorite games in the series.
RalliArtEvo
Member
Downloaded this and soul sacrifice, so excited to play!
Zippedpinhead
Member
Swell! Consider 1 copy bought whenever you release it on steam.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
I see, I see... I honestly don't know how stand-alone the games following the Sky/Estelle's trilogy are (and I had heard through the grapevine that TitS 3 was a spinoff of sorts, though I'm not sure). Obviously, I wouldn't mind skipping ahead if that's what you guys are in for financially; my idea was that, since the Vita is more current and there's more of a market than working back through the PSP Trails games, that you guys might skip ahead in spite of the missing plot. However, I can tell from your concern that you're a dedicated bunch; heck, you've already gone above and beyond bringing SC over. I'll pick up whatever you guys manage to bring over from the Trails series.
Lumpy Onion
Member
Oath without a doubt. Game has a perfect length. Seven is pretty long by ys standards.
Deputy Dangle
Member
I wouldn't be too concerned about a sale happening for the Ys games on Steam soon. They'll very likely go on sale during the Autumn sale in the next couple of days or during the mega Christmas sale in December.
FrostuTheNinja
Member
I was kind of taken aback by Adol's "Damned straight" reply. It seems so out of character but I guess that's the point of the dialogue system.
cpp_is_king
Member
Anyone have an estimate on how long it might take to platinum this one?
mattiewheels
And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
Shipped from Amazon, tracking says "delivered", no package to be found.
According to PS3 Trophies, a VERY reliable trophy guide site, it's about 40 hours: Ys: Memories of Celceta Trophy Guide
The PC version is better, actually (thus the + in the title), so you're all set. Same game, but with more features, a smoother framerate and no load times.
-Tom
I think there's also the possibility Ys 3 was that first game.Uh-oh. After which game failed to live up to your expectations?
If it was Ys Seven, Celceta might not change your mind, since it is based on the same game engine. I'd suggest second-chancing it with Oath in Felghana instead.
If it was any other game, though... then do carry on.
-Tom
... Yeah, that one's kind of the black sheep of the series. Not like, say, Ys V, but all the newer games are simply better period. Especially Oath for being an amazing remake of it.
I loved Ys 3 as a kid, but yeah, if that's your first impression of the series as a whole, you're definitely not seeing what it's all about.
-Tom
FrostuTheNinja
Member
I'm like, the one guy who thinks the Taito remake of Ys 3 on PS2 is one of the best in the series. It just plays and looks great. Love the sprites and hand painted backgrounds. Really sad how much of a hard time 3 gets, always had a soft spot for it.
Wow, that didn't take long: Ys: Memories of Celceta LE Unboxing
That art book is huge! Jeez. Might be worth it for that alone if you're into that sort of thing. Not to mention that massive soundtrack. Looks worth it to me.
Dogfacedgod
Member
Uh-oh. After which game failed to live up to your expectations?
If it was Ys Seven, Celceta might not change your mind, since it is based on the same game engine. I'd suggest second-chancing it with Oath in Felghana instead.
If it was any other game, though... then do carry on.
-Tom
Tom, I just want to say that you're awesome.
It's nice to see a PR person this active and honest who obviously loves the games as well but isn't afraid to say something like this which could potentially lose a sale.
You can never have too many Ys goodies !
Dude. It's amazing. Seriously. I know I work for the company that published it, but let me tell you, if that weren't the case, I would be FREAKING OUT over it right now. The box is huge and beautiful, the book is awesome and really stylized, the CDs add up to four hours of fantastic music, the map is gorgeous and detailed, and the compass is a nice novelty. It's far and away the best LE we've ever released for anything, and one of the best LEs I've ever seen for any game in the U.S. to date. You absolutely won't be disappointed if you pick it up.
See, I didn't care for the Taito remake because they removed the lawnmower-style combat and floaty jumping.
That's what made Ys 3 fun -- it played unlike any other game, and was so fast-paced and weird and awkward that it was just an amazingly charming novelty.The Taito remake is far too... ordinary. There's nothing unique about the combat system, and Adol is just so SLOW now... it just doesn't feel like Ys to me anymore.
-Tom
God damn, there goes my wallet. The book looks nice and thick. Ordering now.