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Ys Origin (PS4/Vita) |OT| Yes, you can start with this one too
- Thread starter Cornbread78
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I understand that, but the game out in the us and europe, so I'd think it would come out in our psn store, especially when reviewers are already getting copies.
Maybe it's some paperwork issues. Next week should be out
Sparrowhawk
Member
I wasn't aware this was coming to PS4 and Vita. 2017 is just ridiculously crammed full of good games.
Brian_FETO
Banned
I mean it's been on Steam for quite a while
If you want to support the efforts of bringing the game to PS4 then do that
(otherwise get whichever you prefer to play on)
Bought it so I can go through it again for like the sixth time. The speed/fluidity of Ys is just
Seems fantastic to me? Loads are instant, looks great, etc. Takes like 2 seconds to save though (which is noticeable when everything else is super fast).
so is the port good or bad? I'm interested y'all spill the beans!
Seems fantastic to me? Loads are instant, looks great, etc. Takes like 2 seconds to save though (which is noticeable when everything else is super fast).
Glitter and Gold
Banned
so is the port good or bad
It plays well enough but I'm getting some weird audio glitches still
It's not that often used iirc, but in general wherever it can be used there's going to be an indicator if you pay attention to your surroundings.
Looks and plays perfectly so far on PS4 (Pro). 60fps, widescreen, responsive controls, quick loadtimes. And it's a blast to play (my favorite being Oath).so is the port good or bad
Nitpicking: no AF (probably engine related?), FMVs are low-res and terrible (again it's more than 10 years old).
Glitter and Gold
Banned
Yeah they're still bad lol. but not much they can do. Rather they put them in as is than remove them.
Shadow Broker
Banned
So I'm stuck. I got my first bronze key and the door I used it on just had some bats in it and the room gave me nothing. The only other room is that one room where you're dragged to the center.
Am I missing something in that bat room?
Am I missing something in that bat room?
You're missing something in the room with the bats, yes. Pertains to an item you recently found.
Equip the mask.
Shadow Broker
Banned
Yeah, that just hit me. I forgot I'm playing a older RPG and not a modern one. Lol..
Thanks for the replies!
Yeah, there's stuff like missing sound effects from boss attacks if you retry a boss after dying from what I've noticed. Also had one crash on the second big boss.
Still doesn't hamper the experience of playing Ys Origin on a console though, and it controls well enough
Glitter and Gold
Banned
Depends on the difficulty. One of the modifiers is on SP gain. (1.0x at Normal, 2.0x at Very easy and .5x on nightmare)
and also the character as well. I usually try to get powered up Eyes of Fact asap on Hugo.
You're just probably not gonna get most of them on certain difficulties. It's best to just keep your equipment maxed and go for any that seem interesting to you
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Is it .5 on nightmare I could have sworn it was you get 1 no matter what you picked up on that mode.
AgentOtaku
Member
Welp, did my part and bought my copy this morning (^____^)
Now Oath and I & II ports, puuuhleaaaasssee!!!!
Now Oath and I & II ports, puuuhleaaaasssee!!!!
Benzychenz
Member
So these Celcetan Panacea are a bit shit aren't they? Like +3 HP? Really?
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
If you are playing nightmare you'll count your blessing they gave you even plus 1 hp lol
Thanks for the info.
Anybody else has this bug after a few retry on a boss the fight will stop loading ? Gotta close the game and reload to fix it.
Glitter and Gold
Banned
You're probably right. I'm remembering the EXP modifiers I think.
Yeah it's been happening to me pretty consistently
I made it to Pictimos last night though and didn't experience it then, but I have on every other boss that I've died against.
Yes, it was confirmed.
Okay what the hell is the deal with Nightmare mode? Taking tons of damage I'm okay with. Only getting 1 HP from the Celcetan Panaceas I'm okay with. Getting reduced SP I'm okay with. But what does all the bosses having triple HP add? The damage is already cranked up so high that there's no room for error.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Upgrade your weapons it's a big important thing, also grind out a level if you are still getting exp fast every region in the tower has a high exp per clear room.
And yes boss fights last longer, it's why I don't ever reccomend people playing the other modes they spoil the shit out of you with how fast a majority of boss fights end.
Nightmare Ys bosses are basically single player mmo boss fights. They last between 3-5 mins on average with the crazier final bosses lasting near 7-10 minutes
But yeah that's the high thrill glory of nightmare, you go in getting manhandled you come out feeling like you can punch a mountain in half.
Souls games are kiddie pool games in comparison
Glitter and Gold
Banned
Lol Q
Today I saw someone telling people to never play a Ys game above Normal on twitter
Your evil twin I suppose.
Looking at the trophies, so far most people that have completed the game so far have done so on Easy.
What's really shocking is that no one has obtained the Very Easy completion trophy yet. lol
Today I saw someone telling people to never play a Ys game above Normal on twitter
Your evil twin I suppose.
Looking at the trophies, so far most people that have completed the game so far have done so on Easy.
What's really shocking is that no one has obtained the Very Easy completion trophy yet. lol
How do you even unlock Nightmare? I only had Hard available by default(which I also think isn't greatly balanced either given my experience with the boss spikes so far)
But yea it's anything like prior Nightmare modes in Falcom games, its all bullshit tedium anyway. Even if you perfectly understand the pattern, the protracted fight doesn't present any added challenge, just a demand for precision perfection over a longer period of time. No extra variables, no added learning, just poor balancing.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
LOL! You can already smash your face on the controller and beat Easy so I doubt anyone bothered with very easy. I'll probably plow it with hugo for laughs once I get my copy on the first. See if I can beat the game in under an hour xD
LOL non-nightmare Ys is boring as hell.
It's because all difficulty trophies stack except for the very easy mode one. Seems like a strange oversight.
Glitter and Gold
Banned
You have to complete the game once to unlock Nightmare I believe
I should complete Hugo today so I'm going to confirm this. I'm also curious if it will require you to complete both character's stories to unlock the 3rd as well. If so it's probably based on the original PC version without Xseed's improvements.
I think you're forming conclusions based on incomplete assessments of the game.
The game is pretty reasonably designed. It's just very old school. My first run I had a lot of difficulty because I didn't know where to go at times and went into certain bosses unprepared.
but I mean right now playing on Hard with Hugo I'm at Pictimos with like 5 hours game clock time and have cleared most bosses barely taking damage. When you know what to get and when to get it the game is pretty balanced.
Glitter and Gold
Banned
REALLY?? That's excellent news.
I need to do a Very Easy run anyways for certain trophies, but this really reduces the amount of runs I had planned to do.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
You took damage with hugo? Shame on you
Does the game have the need to beat the game with all characters on nightmare trophy? If so I'm def doing Hard with Hugo first to knock it out of the way then start with Yunica for reals since Hugo breaks the hell out of the game should be over rather painlessly then do his nightmare after
Glitter and Gold
Banned
You took damage with hugo? Shame on you
No skill on shoulder button is killing me. I can't have my panic button charged at all times while attacking anymore!
Oh I'm just replaying the PC version. I don't remember having to unlock difficulties in that one, probably because Very Easy and Nightmare were originally added in an expansion disc that you could send in for from Falcom directly, which was later integrated into future releases.
I'm sure you have a lot of fun but I consider inflated boss HP to be a boring way to add challenge. It's really a sticking point for me personally in this case because I like every other part of Nightmare mode.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Wait the game doesnt have customized controls? D:
If it's taking you 6 minutes or longer to beat a boss you are doing his mechanics unoptimized or you are undergeared/leveled.
With the exception of two bosses
A thing to note is I've only ever played this game on nightmare what you considered inflated HP is normal HP values to me
Yep. This is what someone on GameFaqs who completed the game wrote:
Not sure how to unlock Nightmare mode though. Perhaps you need to finish the game with both characters?
Neoleo2143
Member
It's so that you have to be consistent for a long stretch of time. If boss health were lower, there's more of a likelihood of a lucky run and a good difficulty mode should do all in their power to stop that.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Pretty sure you unlock very easy by dying an assload of times on easy. Which under normal circumstances will never happen
Yes you have to unlock it. Yes, that's a huge waste of time.
Seems like it, yes.
Glitter and Gold
Banned
I think that's a fair general rule tbh. I hate that approach to difficulty design myself as well.
but in Ys case I think it's more a matter of bosses having too little HP on difficulties below Nightmare, than Nightmare having too much. Like in Ys Seven, my favorite Ys game, I dropped end game bosses with like one EX attack by the end of my most recent playthrough on Normal.
I need Nightmare difficulties in Ys games lol. There's no shame in deciding that they aren't for you though. That's the whole point of having multiple difficulties.
Nope. Huge bummer. So far I'm making due but I might end up remapping them through the system level option if it annoys me too much.
Ah ok. I'll just keep doing what I'm doing then and see what happens. Next I planned on doing Yunica on Normal for the no death trophy anyways. Then Very Easy for all the dumb grind ones. (Max Level and all Blessings)
I mean I never thought that the Normal mode HP values were low enough that you could win that way, but I guess I can see the reasoning from the point of view of making an "Ultimate Ys Challenge" mode.