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We got Pepper though, so Marvel didn't completely get rid of gingers.
Yo real talk though if Pepper represented me as a group I'd be pissed lol
We got Pepper though, so Marvel didn't completely get rid of gingers.
I love gingers, but I don't think anyone thinks of them as having a plight remotely similar to a minority group. They're just really rare because red hair is a recessive trait.Okay moving beyond the whole racist people exist and hate this for racist reasons let me ask you all a question.
Is it okay to eliminate the fact that Mary Jane is a ginger from her character. She's literally the most iconic ginger in comic books. You aren't changing Gwen Stay, Lois Lane, etc etc these are all generic white people. You're getting rid of the #1 ginger.
And you might say I'm okay with getting rid of gingers in film (which I'm not okay with but okay you're a terrible person) but BLACK PEOPLE CAN BE GINGERS TOO.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/photographs-redheads-of-color_us_55db9929e4b0a40aa3abf017
People of mixed race, people who would be considered "black" in America can be natural red heads. Leave your preconceived notions at the door people.
This shit pisses me off to no end man. You guys need to take a look at yourselves. People get so caught up in the odd racist and jump on it.
Poor white peopleWhen you support a character's change of race or gender or personality in his transition to film (which is totally fine if you do), then you have to support every change, even if the change is black to white or woman to man or something else. Racism is when you discriminate someone based on his skin colour, his gender etc. When you say that a black character can't be played by a white person, but a white character can be played by a black person, this is a discrimination. Also, I understand the "minorities aren't represented as much as white people on holywood" argument, but discrimination is still discrimination.
I don't know you so before I respond I have to ask if this is a joke or notWhen you support a character's change of race or gender or personality in his transition to film (which is totally fine if you do), then you have to support every change, even if the change is black to white or woman to man or something else. Racism is when you discriminate someone based on his skin colour, his gender etc. When you say that a black character can't be played by a white person, but a white character can be played by a black person, this is a discrimination. Also, I understand the "minorities aren't represented as much as white people on holywood" argument, but discrimination is still discrimination.
Maybe they just found no actress who fitted.
That's REAL diversity.
So, discrimination is just if the person who gets discriminated is white. Do you find that right or not?Poor white people![]()
I don't know you so before I respond I have to ask if this is a joke or not
She's probably like 16.
Good then that she can and will most likely dye her hair, right?We do live in a world where changing your hair color is possible thankfully. We do indeed have the technology.
I'm just saying how can you not want this? This would be awesome.
That's REAL diversity.
No, but I think arguments with "it goes booth ways, when white character are changed into blacks thats bad, too!" Are super stupid. Talking about white privilege.So, discrimination is just if the person who gets discriminated is white. Do you find that right or not?
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So, discrimination is just if the person who gets discriminated is white. Do you find that right or not?
No, it's not a joke.
Perhaps in the MCU she'll say she dyes her hair brunette?Okay moving beyond the whole racist people exist and hate this for racist reasons let me ask you all a question.
Is it okay to eliminate the fact that Mary Jane is a ginger from her character. She's literally the most iconic ginger in comic books. You aren't changing Gwen Stay, Lois Lane, etc etc these are all generic white people. You're getting rid of the #1 ginger.
And you might say I'm okay with getting rid of gingers in film (which I'm not okay with but okay you're a terrible person) but BLACK PEOPLE CAN BE GINGERS TOO.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/photographs-redheads-of-color_us_55db9929e4b0a40aa3abf017
People of mixed race, people who would be considered "black" in America can be natural red heads. Leave your preconceived notions at the door people.
This shit pisses me off to no end man. You guys need to take a look at yourselves. People get so caught up in the odd racist and jump on it.
When you support a character's change of race or gender or personality in his transition to film (which is totally fine if you do), then you have to support every change, even if the change is black to white or woman to man or something else. Racism is when you discriminate someone based on his skin colour, his gender etc. When you say that a black character can't be played by a white person, but a white character can be played by a black person, this is a discrimination. Also, I understand the "minorities aren't represented as much as white people on holywood" argument, but discrimination is still discrimination.
So, discrimination is just if the person who gets discriminated is white. Do you find that right or not?
No, it's not a joke.
Young Peter Parker (Tom Holland) navigates his way through high school while fighting against white discrimination as Spider-Man.
I mean, maybe. But the movie is already shooting and there are pictures of her on set without red hair. Maybe she'll dye it half way through the movie, but that seems like an unnecessary step when they could have just had her be a red head from the get go.Good then that she can and will most likely dye her hair, right?
My point stands. What if they just didnt found a black ginger actress? Pardon my ignorance, but until 10 minutes ago I didnt even know that this was possible.
Sorry, I consider feeling beeing discriminated because of the hair color as stupid as left handed feeling discriminated because most things are conceptet for right handed people.
Updated synopsis for Spider-Man: Homecoming
Pretty sure the prom night scene everyone speculates about isnt shot outdoor.I mean, maybe. But the movie is already shooting and there are pictures of her on set without red hair. Maybe she'll dye it half way through the movie, but that seems like an unnecessary step when they could have just had her be a red head from the get go.
Okay moving beyond the whole racist people exist and hate this for racist reasons let me ask you all a question.
Is it okay to eliminate the fact that Mary Jane is a ginger from her character. She's literally the most iconic ginger in comic books. You aren't changing Gwen Stay, Lois Lane, etc etc these are all generic white people. You're getting rid of the #1 ginger.
And you might say I'm okay with getting rid of gingers in film (which I'm not okay with but okay you're a terrible person) but BLACK PEOPLE CAN BE GINGERS TOO.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/photographs-redheads-of-color_us_55db9929e4b0a40aa3abf017
People of mixed race, people who would be considered "black" in America can be natural red heads. Leave your preconceived notions at the door people.
This shit pisses me off to no end man. You guys need to take a look at yourselves. People get so caught up in the odd racist and jump on it.
And Medusa is waiting down the line. Though that hair is probably all CG. (actually not sure how that is not going to look super weird)We got Pepper though, so Marvel didn't completely get rid of gingers.
Look, I'm not saying said they won't or can't make her hair red in some way. I'm just saying it would a pretty lame and unnecessary change to the character if they don't for whatever reason.Pretty sure the prom night scene everyone speculates about isnt shot outdoor.
Also, wigs exist.
Green Goblin: We are who we choose to be. Now, CHOOSE!Updated synopsis for Spider-Man: Homecoming
Green Goblin: We are who we choose to be. Now, CHOOSE!
Spider-Man saves everyone
Spider-Man: Sorry, Gobby. ALL lives matter!
Green Goblin: We are who we choose to be. Now, CHOOSE!
Spider-Man saves everyone
Spider-Man: Sorry, Gobby. ALL lives matter!
Green Goblin: We are who we choose to be. Now, CHOOSE!
Spider-Man saves everyone
Spider-Man: Sorry, Gobby. ALL lives matter!
When someone accepts the change X of a character, but doesn't accept the change Y (you can insert anything you want in X and Y), then you make a discrimination against the people with the characteristic Y. That's my point. I don't care if the people behind something are white or black.How in the instance of this film by a white studio, where all of the suits are white, directed by white people, are white people being discriminated against?
This is one of the stupidest things I've ever read on this site. I don't have to support "every change" because some changes don't make sense.
Changing Iron Fist, Black Panther, or Luke Cage's race matters to the story. Changing Mary Jane's does not.
I'm not saying MJ's change of race was a dicrimination.Who is being discriminated against here?
Good then that she can and will most likely dye her hair, right?
My point stands. What if they just didnt found a black ginger actress? Pardon my ignorance, but until 10 minutes ago I didnt even know that this was possible. Pretty sure its not that common and this makes finding an actress not that easy.
Sorry, I consider feeling beeing discriminated because of the hair color as stupid as left handed feeling discriminated because most things are conceptet for right handed people.
No, but I think arguments with "it goes booth ways, when white character are changed into blacks thats bad, too!" Are super stupid. Talking about white privilege.
Perhaps in the MCU she'll say she dyes her hair brunette?
Archie is more iconic a ginger in comics than MJ. He's at least a main character. I'm not certain that MJ would even be that well known if not for the 90s cartoon (I.e. people not knowing who Gwen Stacy was when ASM came out).
But your overall point that she could be a redhead is accurate. If they did or do that, cool. If not, cool. It isn't that important in the grand scheme though.
Would you change the race of Falcon in the movies or someone else's whose race doesn't matter? Black's or white's. Because if you do, then I don't think you disagree with me, unless it's about story reasons, in which I agree with you. But if you would't change the movie's Falcon's race and you would change Stark's race for example, or the opposite, then you would make a discrimination.
So, discrimination is just if the person who gets discriminated is white. Do you find that right or not?
No, it's not a joke.
Green Goblin: We are who we choose to be. Now, CHOOSE!
Spider-Man saves everyone
Spider-Man: Sorry, Gobby. ALL lives matter!
I said in the movies.no, because again - his race is important to his character considering the bad guy in the current arc is:
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There is no racial discrimination against white actors in Hollywood.
When someone accepts the change X of a character, but doesn't accept the change Y (you can insert anything you want in X and Y), then you make a discrimination against the people with the characteristic Y. That's my point. I don't care if the people behind something are white or black.
I didn't said that there is a racial discrimination against white actors in Hollywood, I said that when somebody accepts one change, he has to accept another, unless (and thanks for the remark) there can't be a change because of story reasons.
She's not dyeing her hair red guys. There's already on set photos of her:
I said in the movies.
Kirsten and Shailene are gorgeous. GTFO with that nonsense.
That's not true, though. No matter what you feel. One is not equal to the other.I said in the movies.
I didn't said that there is a racial discrimination against white actors in Hollywood, I said that when somebody accepts one change, he has to accept another, unless (and thanks for the remark) there can't be a change because of story reasons.
YepLMAO..This fucking thread.
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She's not dyeing her hair red guys. There's already on set photos of her:
Leave vanilla white girls aloneNah, those are some vanilla looking white girls.
Nah, those are some vanilla looking white girls.
I hope she shaves her head at this point. Now nobody get what they want.
But will she have her hourglass figure. I too want to talk about sexy teens.
If somebody wants to fight racism against black people or women or someone else, then the solution isn't to make a discrimination against the race or the gender who has never faced racism, but to find ways that can show people that we are all equals.Casting a black actor to play a white character is not discriminating against white people.
And you should care. This "I don't see white or black" colorblind nonsense might sound nice and progressive in your head, but it all does is turn a blind eye to actual racial discrimination.
Accepting black actors playing white characters is not the same thing as accepting white actors playing black characters. Representation for blacks and minorities in Hollywood is historically (and still currently) so poor that giving black roles to white actors demonstrably hurts visibility and representation for minority communities. No white person is in any way demonstrably hurt by having a traditionally white character played by a black or brown actor.
I get that many black people has suffered because of discriminations, but that's an argument on why we should fight every discrimination.That's not true, though. No matter what you feel. One is not equal to the other.