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Namebending!
Namebending!
Sure they did. They're a corporation. Idiots have money. Do the math.
Everything is going to be evaluated by how much they can afford to piss off idiots and still make the money they want, at one level or another. Don't be naive, this is Hollywood; racists are placated every week.
Sure they did. They're a corporation. Idiots have money. Do the math.
Everything is going to be evaluated by how much they can afford to piss off idiots and still make the money they want, at one level or another. Don't be naive, this is Hollywood; racists are placated every week.
She had better be Mary Jane and not just "MJ".
It's a cop out regardless of reason, they can go see it's MJ(but it's not)!I am pretty sure that they didnt had idiots in the internet in mind when they came up with this.
Yeah, just see how Lucasfilm suffered because they promoted Finn as the Jedi in the ads and trailers.
Nerds tend to whine the internet full and still buy the product in the end. The 5 people who really boycott this movies in the end doesnt matter.
Yeah, just see how Lucasfilm suffered because they promoted Finn as the Jedi in the ads and trailers.
Nerds tend to whine the internet full and still buy the product in the end. The 5 people who really boycott this movies in the end doesnt matter.
not nearly as much as you think, so perhaps you shouldn't tell others to 'do the math'
Disney has been pushing diversity hard these last few years, with resounding success.
I love that and want more of it.
I'm saying: Don't be naive. They're absolutely taking into account changes that will cause a backlash, how much of a backlash it will be, and whether or not it's worth it.
She's 19
Why would that be a problem. She's an adult
I worked on an episode of the Disney Channel show, K.C. Undercover, and while I was there I witnessed something that has stuck with me for a long time.
We were resetting for a take than involved some of the characters exiting from inside one set out onto the street, where they'd then run into someone else and continue the scene. This basically meant that before we were rolling, the actors were all waiting inside a pretty small area away from the main crew, shooting the breeze while the cameras readjusted and whatnot.
I talked to the other actors (Zendaya included) about "The Princess Bride," "Star Wars," binge-watching "Buffy" on Netflix, and what sort of meal we might eat for dinner, like you do. At one point the conversation turned to favorite fried foods.
Zendaya chimed in about how she hadn't had mozzarella sticks in a long time, and we all agreed that mozzarella sticks are pretty fucking great.
We rolled camera, did the sequence a few times, and started getting ready for the next scene. Maybe 20, 25 minutes had passed.
Out of nowhere, a PA came running up to us and handed Zendaya a cardboard take-out box. She opened it, and inside was an absolute crap-load of mozzarella sticks, piping hot.
Zendaya looked up at us with a "What the fuck? HOW?" expression, before she was immediately whisked away to do a wardrobe change.
Understand, it was pretty late at night and we were working at a pretty small studio that didn't have an open commissary. There were no restaurants nearby that were still open.
Yet somehow, someone had orchestrated an entire midnight wild goose chase to find and fetch mozzarella sticks, completed it in secret, and sent them over to Zendaya, even though she had never specifically asked for them. It was incredible.
At the time, I didn't know about her record deals, clothing lines, dancing-with-the-stars adventures or what meetings she had been taking for what sort of huge projects that were in the works. I didn't keep up on my Disney Channel lore, so I had no idea that she had other shows or history at the studio. She was just another person playing pretend, waiting for our cue to walk on stage, giggling about 90s tv shows and snack foods.
But at that moment when the fried cheese appeared, I knew there was a whole nother tier of expectations and pressures and future prospects on her plate. And I hoped she'd handle them well. You don't get mozzarella stick treatment unless some people with a lot of money have a lot of big plans for you.
Perhaps the people best suited for mozzarella stick treatment, then, are the ones who wouldn't ask for it. She was as shocked and thankful and mystified as any of us would have been the moment she opened the box. I think that's a good sign.
Yeah, I feel like we're overlooking something obvious.
She's got over 30 million Instagram followers - that's 30 million more than the guy playing Spider-Man.
I think they want people to go see this movie, so they hired an actor with a fanbase.
The IP alone is enough to put people in seats. They didn't stunt cast for this at all.
first movie to hit 2 billion worldwide confirmedI'm betting the overlap between "people who will go because its Spider-Man" and "people who follow Zendaya on Instagram" isn't particularly huge.
So while its not "stunt casting", its certainly got some side-benefits.
I'm betting the overlap between "people who will go because its Spider-Man" and "people who follow Zendaya on Instagram" isn't particularly huge.
So while its not "stunt casting", its certainly got some side-benefits.
No one is being naive here: Homecoming is filled to the brim with persons of color because Disney has realized it is more profitable to be diverse than not. No one thinks they are a charity, but everyone understands that no amount of impotent racist nerd rage is going to move the needle here.
I'm just sick of so many dudes chasing young, especially as they themselves get older and older. Five year age diff pushes it at this stage in my life.
http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2016/08/19/why-would-zendayas-spider-man-role-be-a-reveal
Devin Faraci weighs in on Zendaya/MJ:
This seems to corroborate with this report on Vulture.com that Zendaya's character's name is not Mary Jane, but is MJ.
Has the idea been floated that maybe Zendaya's character is actually just Michelle Johnson? and they call her MJ for short?
or maybe her middles name(s) Mary-Jane.
Michelle Mary Jane Johnson. and she prefers to be called by her middle name(s)?
Maybe she is actually Michael Jordan.
I am tired of Spiderman characters keep getting paired with hot chicks. Can we get a teenager science nerd Peter Parker once in a while? Can we just for one movie, get a Spiderman who just stay in his basement and make different shooting webs and surf gaf all day?
I am tired of Spiderman characters keep getting paired with hot chicks. Can we get a teenager science nerd Peter Parker once in a while? Can we just for one movie, get a Spiderman who just stay in his basement and make different shooting webs and surf gaf all day?
BTW I am not familiar with this girl but she has the same facial expression in all her photos. I wouldn't be surprised if her acting is as wooden as most model actors.
It depends on the situation, no?I'm just sick of so many dudes chasing young, especially as they themselves get older and older. Five year age diff pushes it at this stage in my life.
I'm really hoping her "real" name is Mary Jane. Making it just "MJ" for a twist is pretty weird.
Sony to announce an MJ solo movie.So she is a completely different character taking the place of an established character.
Makes me think it's legal issues.
why would it be a legal issue?So she is a completely different character taking the place of an established character.
Makes me think it's legal issues.
why would it be a legal issue?
So she is a completely different character taking the place of an established character.
Makes me think it's legal issues.
that seems very unlikelyMaybe Sony didn't give Marvel the rights to Mary Jane back because they need her for Avi Arad's upcoming magnum opus Venom.
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I hope she is Mary Jane Watson but if she is not, and she is this Michelle "MJ" Johnson character, then I'll still be happy about it as long as she is the main love interest in the trilogy.
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So in short. You really do want her to be Mary Jane Watson that we know from the comics. While I won't care as long as she is the main love interest.I just want "MJ Watson" at the very least, in regards to her name. I can live with Michelle J. Watson or whatever, but I think her surname should at least still be there too. Ideally, if they are pulling the Michelle = MJ twist here, I'm hoping her full name is just Mary Jane Michelle Watson- with Mary Jane as her first name and Michelle as her middle name (or vice-versa) that she initially uses in the first film and then is addressed as Mary Jane or MJ from there on out.
And considering how Zendaya was cast in the role several months early compared to the rest of the newcomers for Spider-Man: Homecoming, I definitely think she's going to be the main love interest for the new film series. One of the details that came out when she was first announced in the role was that the idea was for her character to play a smaller role in the first film and then become more prominent moving forward.
So in short. You really do want her to be Mary Jane Watson that we know from the comics. While I won't care as long as she is the main love interest.