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[Thabass]

What is the problem with that?

I love how people think that if we pretends things are not the way they are, they somehow miraculously will become different.

Do you know that Viagra has the same effect on both men or women? (blood flow to genitalia) It's just used exclusively by men, because they desire sex so much, that even when the feeling gets weaker, it's still hell of a strong.

Now, what is wrong with wanting sex with adult people again? Isn't promiscuity good and progressive?

Oh, nothing is wrong with it at all. But Mr. Jaffe is acting like his shit doesn't stink and sexism is bad, but his games show that he's clearly had the same type of mindset before.

Come on now, people. The first GoW was a very good game (I would even argue that it was the best and certainly better than whatever the hell the newest game wants to be, but that's a personal opinion). I don't agree with Jaffe on what he's saying either but that doesn't mean that every game he worked on is now shit.

Who the hell said his games were shit?

 

[Vampire On Titus]

David Jaffe is correct in saying that people often put on a deceptively positive public face regarding their relationship issues. But he's conveniently side stepping that the most meaningful tweets in that article weren't the generally positive ones, they were the ones that showed key factual discrepancies in her account. You can't "sneak" away from someone if you're tweeting publicly about it. You can't be "physically confined" to your apartment if you're out and about around town (at the very least it was an exaggeration).

It calls her credibility into question that she's willing to lie or exaggerate her claims. If there's some explanation for the tweets then she can defend herself and explain the discrepancies but we're not gonna play this game where one side of the story gets a fair hearing and the other is ignored completely.

 

[Knivess]

Here comes the projection now.

Sure, we aren't above criticism, David. I don't think anyone here wants to be above criticism, i'm glad you can at least have a reasoned debate on it unlike many others. But the fact remains that not only is a man dead but his legacy has been absolutely trashed and dragged through the mud. He's been branded an abuser, a rapist, guilty of false imprisonment and abandoned by friends and family alike. And all seemingly based upon accusations which are falling apart further every day.

There may be no bringing Alec back but if his legacy has been unfairly trashed then i think a lot of the people here would like to help clear that up. If the information spread about him was justified? Well that will come out in the wash as well.

As many have said, we'd prefer the police and courts to be the ones to do that but at the stage its seeming unlikely, since most of the relevant media has decided to pretend it never happened i don't see a lot of other volunteers coming forward, guess that just leaves us creeps huh?

 

[Hypereides]

Hey! Jaffe! Instead of speaking your mind on Twitter, come back and join us on GAF to give your rightful critique here instead.

 

[strange headache]

Thank you EviLore for sticking out your neck and bringing some common sense to the twitter sphere.

I respect David Jaffe, but I feel like if he wants to have a discussion about this he should pay us a visit and lay down his arguments. Taking cheap shots from twitter, the same platform that is fostering the wanton destruction of other people's lives and reputation through ochlocracy and the court of public opinion is disingenuous at best and hypocritical at worst. Especially considering that Jaffe himself found himself in the cross-hairs of the same mob mentality.



I'd like to know how exactly the table he takes issue with, which merely presents the facts from the postmillenial article in another format, is different from what he had to say to Ben Kuchera a couple of years ago. ZQ decided to make these accusations public, are we just supposed to take her tweets at face value considering her more than questionable past?

Alec H. was literally executed by the twitter inquisition and some dude on NeoGAF taking his time to aggregate public information in a more digestible manner is what he cares about? Either ZQ's tweets were honest back then, which means that her recent accusations were a hyperbolic misrepresentation of the truth, or she lied about it in the past. No matter which way you look at it, the fact remains that she still lied and it only stands to reason that her accusing somebody of "something really f*cking awful" (to employ Jaffe's own words) should be met with scepticism.

At the very best their failed relationship was the mere result of them both being mentally unstable human beings who probably did shitty things to each other. The question of who's more guilty doesn't really matter anyway and is a moot discussion. What people are concerned about is a person's public social media execution with ZQ knowing full well that Alec dealt with serious depression. What's equally as bad is the fact that Alec himself was not allowed to talk about his experiences, as per his own words:

I'm sorry, but I'm just not willing to suspend my disbelief for somebody who's obviously unwilling to let other people speak in a self-serving egotistical attempt to hold hegemony over the truth. ZQ did the same to Alec what she did to Eron under threat of law and that alone should make everybody suspicious of her true intentions. Clearly, justice isn't what ZQ is interested in, otherwise she would have done what every sensible person would do and file a legal complaint.

Lastly, nobody here in this thread is clamoring for the public execution of ZQ. She brought this mess upon herself by making these half-arsed twitter allegations in the first place because she saw another opportunity to put herself back into the limelight. No, when people on here say that they want justice for Alec, they mean a real trial that not only serves justice to the accuser, but to the accused as well. The simple fact that ZQ never bothered to contact the police, is not because of the purity of her heart, but because she knew full well that Alec would be heard and her hyperbolic claims would be scrutinized.

It doesn't take much effort to write a couple of tweets and to ruin somebody's life. Unfortunately, Alec is dead now because of this and he will sadly never know justice. What Gaffers really want is to make sure that something like that never happens again.

 

[Knivess]

Also she now has a batman/superman spin-off, this world is fucked.

Zoe Quinn to Write DC Comics' Batman and Superman Spin-Off The Infected: Deathbringer

DC Comics announced that Zoe Quinn will team up with artist Tyler Kirkham to write a Batman and Superman spin-off titled The Infected: Deathbringer #1.

boundingintocomics.com

 

[Sleepydays]

Also she now has a batman/superman spin-off, this world is fucked.

Zoe Quinn to Write DC Comics' Batman and Superman Spin-Off The Infected: Deathbringer

DC Comics announced that Zoe Quinn will team up with artist Tyler Kirkham to write a Batman and Superman spin-off titled The Infected: Deathbringer #1.

boundingintocomics.com

Well she's probably had infections and is certainly a Deathbringer, so...

 

[Raven117]

Jaffe knows that we have a point with respect to how public this all is. Come on over and post here and not air this out in Twitter.

You know good damn well what’s going on Jaffe...

(I’ll once again reiterate that I hate what happened and hate more that it’s in public..... but as they say, live by social media, die by social media).

 

[Xaero Gravity]

Also she now has a batman/superman spin-off, this world is fucked.

Zoe Quinn to Write DC Comics' Batman and Superman Spin-Off The Infected: Deathbringer

DC Comics announced that Zoe Quinn will team up with artist Tyler Kirkham to write a Batman and Superman spin-off titled The Infected: Deathbringer #1.

boundingintocomics.com

Help kill a man, get a job writing a spin off...



MiyazakiHatesKojima can you meet me in a secluded area later today? I want to show you something.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Thank you EviLore for sticking out your neck and bringing some common sense to the twitter sphere.

I respect David Jaffe, but I feel like if he wants to have a discussion about this he should pay us a visit and lay down his arguments. Taking cheap shots from twitter, the same platform that is fostering the wanton destruction of other people's lives and reputation through ochlocracy and the court of public opinion is disingenuous at best and hypocritical at worst. Especially considering that Jaffe himself found himself in the cross-hairs of the same mob mentality.



I'd like to know how exactly the table he takes issue with, which merely presents the facts from the postmillenial article in another format, is different from what he had to say to Ben Kuchera a couple of years ago. ZQ decided to make these accusations public, are we just supposed to take her tweets at face value considering her more than questionable past?

Alec H. was literally executed by the twitter inquisition and some dude on NeoGAF taking his time to aggregate public information in a more digestible manner is what he cares about? Either ZQ's tweets were honest back then, which means that her recent accusations were a hyperbolic misrepresentation of the truth, or she lied about it in the past. No matter which way you look at it, the fact remains that she still lied and it only stands to reason that her accusing somebody of "something really f*cking awful" (to employ Jaffe's own words) should be met with scepticism.

At the very best their failed relationship was the mere result of them both being mentally unstable human beings who probably did shitty things to each other. The question of who's more guilty doesn't really matter anyway and is a moot discussion. What people are concerned about is a person's public social media execution with ZQ knowing full well that Alec dealt with serious depression. What's equally as bad is the fact that Alec himself was not allowed to talk about his experiences, as per his own words:

I'm sorry, but I'm just not willing to suspend my disbelief for somebody who's obviously unwilling to let other people speak in a self-serving egotistical attempt to hold hegemony over the truth. ZQ did the same to Alec what she did to Eron under threat of law and that alone should make everybody suspicious of her true intentions.

Lastly, nobody her in this thread is clamoring for the public execution of ZQ. She brought this mess upon herself by making these half-arsed twitter allegations in the first place because she saw another opportunity to put herself back into the limelight. No, when people on here say that they want justice for Alec, they mean a real trial that not only serves justice to the accuser, but to the accused as well. The simple fact that ZQ never bothered to contact the police, is not because of the purity of her heart, but because she knew full well that Alec would be heard and her hyperbolic claims would be scrutinized.

It doesn't take much effort to write a couple of tweets and to ruin somebody's life. Unfortunately, Alec is dead now because of this and he will sadly never know justice. What Gaffers really want is to make sure that something like that never happens again.

By the way (from the audio clip), it is not misogyny it is called womanizing or just plain manipulator. But she was just "interpreting the tone".

Gawker hack fucks.

 

[JimmyJones]

Hey Jaffe maybe you should turn your twitter account over to Cory Barlog so he can make that better too

EDIT oh snap thanks for the GAF Gold and the tag y’all *updates resumé accordingly*

Are you implying that nu-GoW is better than GoW 1-3?

 

[DeepEnigma]

Also she now has a batman/superman spin-off, this world is fucked.

Zoe Quinn to Write DC Comics' Batman and Superman Spin-Off The Infected: Deathbringer

DC Comics announced that Zoe Quinn will team up with artist Tyler Kirkham to write a Batman and Superman spin-off titled The Infected: Deathbringer #1.

boundingintocomics.com

Art imitates life, imitates art.

Are you implying that nu-GoW is better than GoW 1-3?

It was a joke, or sick burn, nothing more.

 

[Lanrutcon]

Jaffe defending a public assassination. Great look for him.

I mean, if you're looking for a way to be relevant again there are worse ways than shitting on a dead man via twitter, I guess?

 

[ThatGamingDude]

We're not above criticism whatsoever; though we are the type of crowd who often has cement shoes when it comes to our thoughts. Come on down and chat with us man; we're not going to ban you unless you get into saying some crazy shit. Take a look at the very public ban list

Ban History

Here you can see the latest site bans

www.neogaf.com

I will say this: We started talking about it on a forum where it's a bit less public, however, you went to Twitter to discuss our posts.

You're conducting the same behavior these people who put others on blast on Twitter are; if you want to talk to us, you can just come here. No reason to go to Main Street with a megaphone about the people talking shit at the coffee shop, bro.

If you actually wanted to talk to US, you would have come and talked to US; it's obvious your goal was in NO WAY to have a further discussion with us on the issue.

Which, coming from your background, blows me away. You were involved in GOW and TM?? You of all people I would expect to giving us a pat on the back for talking about whatever and not shying away with what we want to discuss?

I'm surprised you even did so, with recent game devs "poking," (I'm refraining from calling it what it is and fluffing the word choice on that, mind you) in online interactions in large social media like Reddit/Twitter causing themselves a shit storm.

Not that 1 random person matters to you, but I've lost a lot of respect towards you and your creations with your recent actions towards this topic.

Get bent dude, you're not a moral authority, or above us in any fucking way.

 

[DunDunDunpachi]

MiyazakiHatesKojima can you meet me in a secluded area later today? I want to show you something.

S T R A N G E R D A N G E R

 

[llien]

Meanwhile in Academia:

 

[manfestival]

What is the problem with that?

I love how people think that if we pretend things are not the way they are, they somehow miraculously will become different.

Do you know that Viagra has the same effect on both men or women? (blood flow to genitalia) It's just used exclusively by men, because they desire sex so much, that even when the feeling gets weaker, it's still hell of a strong.

Now, what is wrong with wanting sex with adult people again? Isn't promiscuity good and progressive?

How much did Pfizer pay you for this advertisement? lol jk jk

 

[Xaero Gravity]

S T R A N G E R D A N G E R

I am so not a raper.

 

[D-Dude]

Wow didn't expect that coming from David Jaffe...


I am expecting some news articles or youtube videos from this btw. Always happens..

 

[EightBit Man]

Is it so hard to understand that people are able to abuse power? Particularly those with a history of lies and deception? Zoe Quinn knows she has influence, knows that she's the darling of video games "journalists" and "progressives". She knows the power of social media. She sits there, laughing how idiotic people have been taking her serious. But that's where we are.

 

[ExpandKong]

Are you implying that nu-GoW is better than GoW 1-3?

Barlog took over with GoW2, didn’t he?

 

[Nickolaidas]

Come on now, people. The first GoW was a very good game (I would even argue that it was the best and certainly better than whatever the hell the newest game wants to be, but that's a personal opinion). I don't agree with Jaffe on what he's saying either but that doesn't mean that every game he worked on is now shit.

I am not shitting on god of war. I just think it's hypocritical to make a game where the only time you encounter women is to have sex with them or abuse them (the topless priestess who Kratos intimidates), and later point out supposed sexism on cosplayers who pay tribute to the male super hero trope.

Joffe made an amazing game nonetheless, and his recent pandering does not take away the contribution to one of the best hack and slash IPs ever.

 

[lifa-cobex]

Hey! Jaffe! Instead of speaking your mind on Twitter, come back and join us on GAF to give your rightful critique here instead.

Think he has an account unless he ditched it or got banned.
I remember him posting years back.

 

[TraceTheTong]

Hello David Jaffe!
Mad respect to your work, of which I am a fan.

As for the amatuer detective post I wrote (that you are probably referring to, as it is pinned in the OP and featured in your screenshot) it was strictly to set out all the claims on both sides as presented and make sense of them. To make sense of the whole situation as much as possible. This should be the job of the journalists, but all we get are opinion pieces and ideology. I don't want to read opinion, I want to read the details.

Is the post embarissing in some way? Yeah, probably, to someone concerned with people's opinions of them. Irresponsible? I don't think so at all. If I can't lay out the information given to me from as dependable sources as can be and work through them, my opinion on the event will be as shallow as the average tweet. I would argue it's far more responsible for me to properly sit and process the event from as solid as a position as possible, than it is for me to just sling off tweets and remarks without actually reading about the event.

I couldn't sit there and watch people throw meaningless tweets around with no solid groundwork to base it on. I wanted to comment on the event (like literally thousands of others) but I didn't want it to be a shallow one-liner. I wanted to be able to set it out as a process also, so that others can see how I arrived there. The idea is that if someone took issue with it, they could read through it and pick it apart decisively and then ask me "hey wtf is the deal here?" Effectively, I'm trying my hardest to break mob mentality, by not allowing my answer to be condensed down a to evil-nazi-man-sound-bite.

Of course it's always easier to just shoot a tweet off and cover your ears, however.

Quick Edit: I am a very recent poster on Gaf, so it's very easy to read through my history and decide for yourself how reasonable I am. If you find something you especially want to bring up to me and accuse me of, that's fair game.

 

[off duty ninja]

Also she now has a batman/superman spin-off, this world is fucked.

Zoe Quinn to Write DC Comics' Batman and Superman Spin-Off The Infected: Deathbringer

DC Comics announced that Zoe Quinn will team up with artist Tyler Kirkham to write a Batman and Superman spin-off titled The Infected: Deathbringer #1.

boundingintocomics.com

Still waiting for that reaction emoji EviLore .

I'm glad to know there arestill plenty of SJW's out there to try and get their dick wet help out this poor innocent little waif.

 

[hariseldon]

He's probably trying to bang Zoe Quinn

That being the case he may as well cut out the middleman and jump off a bridge right now.

 

[kbear]

Hey Jaffe maybe you should turn your twitter account over to Cory Barlog so he can make that better too

 

[EviLore]

Think he has an account unless he ditched it or got banned.
I remember him posting years back.

He still has an account, yeah. davidjaffe

He was actually arguing in favor of due process and presumption of innocence, standing up against a witch hunt, the last time he was active on GAF in 2014:

Because I like to know if someone is actually guilty of a crime before (in my mind and in real life) throwing them under the bus.

Because:

a- she has every right to and it would have made anyone feel better to put this guy in his place.

b- I think it's very fair to read the conversation and see how he COULD have gotten the idea that while she was not into his advances, she was not bothered by them and thus he was going to keep trying. I don't like how the net has immediately labeled this guy as wrong in every sense of the word WITHOUT seeing that very real possibility (the possibility being that he-or anyone else- could have read the situation poorly). And so NOW if she is complaining (which I don't even know if she is, fyi) I think it's fair to say to her 'hey, check how you communicated with this tool- perhaps next time- if this did bother you- there are some things you could do differently' and I think it's fair to say that to her without it meaning I'm 'blaming the victim'.

c- AKA- it's not always black and white, as much as it feels good and easy and righteous to say 'ZERO TOLERANCE! IT IS ALWAYS BLACK AND WHITE WHEN IT COMES TO THIS SORT OF THING'.

David

ps. are we becoming friends?!?! Oh my god! I am so happy!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[plushyp]

Zoe Quinn has been named the writer on an upcoming comic from DC:

Donna Troy will headline The Infected: Deathbringer #1, by writer Zoë Quinn (Goddess Mode) and artist Ben Oliver (Detective Comics, Vigilante), which arrives in stores Dec. 4.

Donna Troy Gets a New Name, One-Shot As A Batman Who Laughs Infected Hero

The Batman Who Laughs' infection of Donna Troy results in a deathly new name for the Titan in The Infected one-shot.

www.cbr.com

 

[cormack12]

In the screenshot the mod note and the blurb from the poster was omitted which I think is a bit discourteous as it sets out why it was gathered and it isn't meant to be taken as gospel either. I can understand if he wants to try and defuse or de-escalate but unfortunately there's a lot of stuff flying round and putting it into a nice table of summary is quite a cool thing :/

 

[The Bloody-Nine]

Zoe Quinn has been named the writer on an upcoming comic from DC:

Donna Troy will headline The Infected: Deathbringer #1, by writer Zoë Quinn (Goddess Mode) and artist Ben Oliver (Detective Comics, Vigilante), which arrives in stores Dec. 4.

Donna Troy Gets a New Name, One-Shot As A Batman Who Laughs Infected Hero

The Batman Who Laughs' infection of Donna Troy results in a deathly new name for the Titan in The Infected one-shot.

www.cbr.com

A deadly writer?

 

[Lanrutcon]

He still has an account, yeah. davidjaffe

He was actually arguing in favor of due process and presumption of innocence, standing up against a witch hunt, the last time he was active on GAF in 2014:

What changed, Jaffe? Is 5 years enough time to lose perspective?

 

[Thabass]

He still has an account, yeah. davidjaffe

He was actually arguing in favor of due process and presumption of innocence, standing up against a witch hunt, the last time he was active on GAF in 2014:

I see EviLore is being Eminem and cleaning out some closets.

 

[lifa-cobex]

What changed, Jaffe? Is 5 years enough time to lose perspective?

Maybe failure broke him.

 

[TraceTheTong]

Another quick post that I forgot to add in the edit:

The disclaimer as to why I wrote the post is actually in the post, and pinned in the OP.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Zoe Quinn has been named the writer on an upcoming comic from DC:

Donna Troy will headline The Infected: Deathbringer #1, by writer Zoë Quinn (Goddess Mode) and artist Ben Oliver (Detective Comics, Vigilante), which arrives in stores Dec. 4.

Donna Troy Gets a New Name, One-Shot As A Batman Who Laughs Infected Hero

The Batman Who Laughs' infection of Donna Troy results in a deathly new name for the Titan in The Infected one-shot.

www.cbr.com

And still no game from the $85K scammed out of a Kickstarter.

 

[Knivess]

He still has an account, yeah. davidjaffe

He was actually arguing in favor of due process and presumption of innocence, standing up against a witch hunt, the last time he was active on GAF in 2014:

Wonder what happened to him....

 

[OutrageousFacts]

Also she now has a batman/superman spin-off, this world is fucked.

Zoe Quinn to Write DC Comics' Batman and Superman Spin-Off The Infected: Deathbringer

DC Comics announced that Zoe Quinn will team up with artist Tyler Kirkham to write a Batman and Superman spin-off titled The Infected: Deathbringer #1.

boundingintocomics.com

Did I somehow step into literal hell?! Zoe Quinn caused the suicide of Alec Holowka and is awarded for it by being allowed to make Batman-comic books? Wtf

Had to tweet about it, maybe retweet it for greater exposure. There's silencing an act, and then there's awarding it. I'm gonna go vomit ...

 

[CrustyBritches]

Wait, she's helping on a comic called Infected Deathbringer...is this her take on The Vajayjay Monologues?

 

[ThatGamingDude]

Well that explains why he came out of his neck of the woods to talk about it
Gotta drive that view count some how

 

[Herr Edgy]

And still no game from the $85K scammed out of a Kickstarter.

What I don't understand about that: of course there can be miscalculations, things going wrong, whatever, with a kickstarter project, and of course someone can take an expensive vacation unrelated to project's going under; those points are the primary arguments as to why she didn't do anything morally wrong, and it's sensible.

But when you have 85k, for a very basic game, where basically all of the money goes into the actors because the tech is so simple: why is there no reasonable content being shown for the backers? At least as far as I know. With that much money for a basic game, with games of much larger scale being made for less existing, why is there no 'sorry, I fucked up, I miscalculated the amount of work/money required, this is what I have to show for it" where she shows a game with, what, a vertical slice with a couple levels completed: anything that tells backers that it is her fuckup and that she honestly tried. Just saying she's sorry for the lack of updates and that she's run out of money doesn't cut it.

If the explanation (or lack thereof) doesn't seem honest, combined with the fact that she went on expensive trips,that's where the complaints about the trip come in, because suddenly it seems that the money wasn't spent on the game to the required degree and spent on her personal welfare.

Treating parts of the kickstarter money as the developers' salaries is normal, and she can spend the money she pays herself however she wants; that's what a salary is for. But if the salary is too high and the project therefore fails, this would indicate lack of care by the CEO and would, under German law for reference, mean that she, as the CEO of her company, would be held accountable for the damages it incurred for the company (take this with a grain of salt though, I'm definitely not an expert when it comes to law).
Of course, she probably doesn't have a company and German law doesn't matter here in the first place, I just want to demonstrate how similar behavior could be treated somewhere. Yet quite a few people just don't seem to... care?

 

[DunDunDunpachi]

Well that explains why he came out of his neck of the woods to talk about it
Gotta drive that view count some how

lol didn't someone call this just a few posts ago?

So funny.

EDIT: shoutout to the true Nostradamuses in the thread:

Trying to grease the palms with "virtue" before he starts pitching his next project ideas he talked about a few months ago?

“Grown ass adults should know better”

I’ve seen your live streams David Jaffe. Streaming like a 15 year old in their bedroom. “Like and subscribe”. I wouldn’t be playing the maturity card if I were you.

It’s embarrassing.

Meanwhile if the roles were reversed jaffe would throw on his ronald mcdonald costume and facepaint and be lecturing whoever listens to him on twitch about how they should be getting to the bottom of what made quinn kill itself.

 

[ThatGamingDude]

lol didn't someone call this just a few posts ago?

So funny.

Apparently sex doesn't sell anymore
It's controversy
Worst way to fucking shill and try to get attention to yourself, ever.

 

[EviLore]

Sad.

 

[Enjay]

lol didn't someone call this just a few posts ago?

So funny.

Yeah this david jaffe's last link to relevancy, throwing on a ronald mcdonald costume and twitch streaming himself.

 

[Fuz]

Also she now has a batman/superman spin-off, this world is fucked.

Zoe Quinn to Write DC Comics' Batman and Superman Spin-Off The Infected: Deathbringer

DC Comics announced that Zoe Quinn will team up with artist Tyler Kirkham to write a Batman and Superman spin-off titled The Infected: Deathbringer #1.

boundingintocomics.com

While Alec has got immediately fired from his job after a tweet with zero proof.

 

[Kadayi]

I am so not a raper.

 

[Tesseract]

christ jaffe, what are you doing

 

[brap]

Also she now has a batman/superman spin-off, this world is fucked.

Zoe Quinn to Write DC Comics' Batman and Superman Spin-Off The Infected: Deathbringer

DC Comics announced that Zoe Quinn will team up with artist Tyler Kirkham to write a Batman and Superman spin-off titled The Infected: Deathbringer #1.

boundingintocomics.com

What the fuck? God I hate male feminists.
*insert that one metallica album here*

 

[AntiCap]

Did I somehow step into literal hell?! Zoe Quinn caused the suicide of Alec Holowka and is awarded for it by being allowed to make Batman-comic books? Wtf

Had to tweet about it, maybe retweet it for greater exposure. There's silencing an act, and then there's awarding it. I'm gonna go vomit ...

It's most likely she signed the contract before she made her allegations against Alec.

So really, she's just being rewarded for her terrible professional track record, than her poisonous social track record.