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Zone of the Enders HD Collection |OT|

rvy

Banned
Patch 1.01 is now available for BLUS30937 (30,6MB).
Any visible (FPS) enhancements? please do tell!

What's with the size difference? I still don't get why Konami are so shady about patch notes. They almost always never write a changelog.
 

MechaX

Member
Downloaded the patch and loaded some random saves.

VR Training is still slow, Phobos is still slow, Battleship fight is still slow, so I doubt it messed with the fps any. At best, the patch might have fixed the anime portrait graphic issues shortly before the Inhert fight.
 

Sushigod7

Member
Downloaded the patch and loaded some random saves.

VR Training is still slow, Phobos is still slow, Battleship fight is still slow, so I doubt it messed with the fps any. At best, the patch might have fixed the anime portrait graphic issues shortly before the Inhert fight.

So updates cost a lot right? So they spend money to make one that did not much of anything. Gees way to go Konami.
 

RedSwirl

Junior Member
Man ZOE2 is so cool. I never bought the game on the PS2 though because there was too much bullshit getting in the way of the cool combat. Too many escort missions, weird objectives, etc. Game became annoying almost as often as it was awesome.
 

dark10x

Digital Foundry pixel pusher
So updates cost a lot right? So they spend money to make one that did not much of anything. Gees way to go Konami.
I suspect that fixing the framerate issue will not be a trivial fix. This isn't the kind of thing that "slipped through" QA. The only way they could address this issue is to make compromises elsewhere or spend a lot of time rewriting code and optimizing.
 

Roto13

Member
Had to call FedEx again last night to request they try delivering my game again. They left me a failed delivery card on Thursday (even though I was home) so I called and they said they'd try again on Friday, which they didn't do, so I called again last night. Hoping they get their shit together today.
 

dark10x

Digital Foundry pixel pusher
Might reduce more effects or something than we know of... just to improve framerates a bit more.
They really should cut down the resolution on the alpha effects as far as they can go without looking broken. Those effects ARE very clearly the reason for performance dips. They were already at half resolution on PS2 (with the resolution PS2 using being much lower than this version). The effects occur so frequently and quickly that it would be difficult to see a significant reduction.

I will say that there is SOME hope. Konami JUST released a patch for Silent Hill Downpour that, against all odds, massively improved the god awful framerate present in that game. It took months to see it released but the effects are extremely noticeable. I'm kind of stunned that they actually took the time to improve things.
 

Liquidus

Aggressively Stupid
Now this is a proper Limited Edition! The art book is at least 10 times as thick as the North American one and the package includes a scenario book with additional art, a soundtrack, IDOLO 2167 on BluRay and a making of DVD. Fucking Konami of America. The art book is thicker than the entire North American LE, ugh.

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Join your brothers!

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Eusis

Member
Now this is a proper Limited Edition! The art book is at least 10 times as thick as the North American one and the package includes a scenario book with additional art, a soundtrack, IDOLO 2167 on BluRay and a making of DVD. Fucking Konami of America.

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That would've been easily worth $80. Yeah, we definitely should've gotten this one.
 
The patch has helped slowdown during ZOE1 battles. ZOE2 feels smoother, so while it was a small update, it at least addressed a few framerate problems. Keep pushing, Konami.

It also added an annoying bug.
 
My copy finally arrived yesterday and I got a chance to put some time into ZoE2.

The framerate is definitely not what I'd hoped, even in the 360 version. It does look much better in some of the interior areas of the ship if there isn't much else going on though.

I'm not sure why the intro movie shows so many key parts of the game, I would have been pretty pissed if I hadn't played though it already.

Also, why no subtitle for the OT? Seems like it would have been the most obvious OT subtitle in GAF history.


Zone of the Enders HD Collection |OT| A DINGO GOT MY JEHUTY!!!
 

JKTrix

Member
Still waiting on my own Konamistyle edition to get in.

Man, that looks good. Liquidus' collection makes me jealous.
 
Played a bit of 1 and 2 last night. It's amazing how much more polished 2 is over 1, even though I enjoy the premise of 1. Dat framerate on both is rough though. :(

Ahhhh the memories.
 
I think I asked this before but best to ask again just in case:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B009IF0G9S/

I can buy the American LE via Amazon UK thanks to Videogameplus.ca.

There aren't any PSN codes in this pack are there? So essentially I can buy this for my PAL PS3 and everything will work just fine?

Yup. Everything works out the gate. Rising Demo is on the disc and shows up as a second disc option under ZOE HD.
 
For people who got the limited edition, is the art book along the back of the box? Mine is all crushed on the back and I don't really want to open it if it destroyed the art book also. I assume it was against the back of the box like most games do.
 

cjkeats

Member
For people who got the limited edition, is the art book along the back of the box? Mine is all crushed on the back and I don't really want to open it if it destroyed the art book also. I assume it was against the back of the box like most games do.

It slides out like a tray, the art book is on top, the game is behind it, then the soundtrack under that.
 
UK-GAF, I got an email from Game this morning telling me because I preordered this its now £22.99, even if the price goes back up before release, which is apparently the 30th. :)
 
FUCK

I almost beat ZoE 1 in one sitting and my xbox froze and I never bothered to save and now I have to start from the beginning. So frustrating, not used to not having autosave.
 
Beat ZOE2 last night in one sitting from start to finish in about a little over 4 some odd hours. Ah the memories. Now to get all the EX missions and destroy fools with Naked Jehuty. :)
 

VanillaPMP

Neo Member
You can get the LE for 360 for 39.99 if you reserve through bestbuy.ca and pick up in store. I just did it, and the lady ringing be up gave it to me even after she double-checked the price.
 

Pachinko

Member
I can't help but wonder why they don't issue an "obvious fix" patch. One that allows you to select 640X480 widescreen to lock the framerate at 60. I mean, these consoles must at least be able to do that right ?

I've got far too much to play right now so I have only a little bit of interest in grabbing this game but it would be nice to see them fix some of those issues if it's possible.
 

JKTrix

Member
The Japanese LE is like $120.
Pretty much. The Japanese LE is 8980 yen, the Konamistyle edition which is what Liquidus has was 9980 yen.

The only real difference between the two is the Idolo movie on Blu Ray--the regular LE doesn't have it. All copies of the game that were ordered from Konami include the 'Haidara night' disc which has about 80 minutes of footage from that ZOE event back in May. So if you don't get a version that wasn't ordered from Konami, you won't get that extra DVD either. Whatever import site you use should specify whether or not it has it.
 

Y2Kev

TLG Fan Caretaker Est. 2009
Wow, I got this because I love ZoE2 but the framerate is just unacceptable. It's actually hard to time combos. It's not...playable. Yikes.

The whole game slows down.
 

Roto13

Member
One boss battle in ZoE 1 basically runs in slow motion the entire time. That's insane.

EDIT: Wow, the performance during the final boss of ZoE 2 is fucking embarrassing.
 

DeVeAn

Member
One boss battle in ZoE 1 basically runs in slow motion the entire time. That's insane.

EDIT: Wow, the performance during the final boss of ZoE 2 is fucking embarrassing.
This. It sucks but, I like the games too much to pass this up.
 

Tookay

Member
What bothers me more than the FPS problems is all the smearing on light trails and particle effects during combat. The image just isn't very clean.
 

Eusis

Member
If you never played them before the games are more than fine. Though I can sympathise with previous players.
Or if you haven't played them since release anyway. And, perhaps, aren't trying to master the games and beat at high difficulties, if you're just in for the ride (and perhaps trophies at most) it'll be enough, managed to play through ZoE2 and still enjoy it lots.
 
Finally played some of the game starting with ZOE1. Damn it feels good playing that game again. Feels like I haven't lost a step. Constant dash dodges during every battle, destroying colony buildings cause of my recklessness when fighting. Do find myself pressing the Y button less than usual. And I was almost close to death when fighting Tempest but I took care of that clown

Yep, this is the game I know and love
 
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