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polyh3dron
Banned
After playing the PS3 version of ZOE2 for a while I must say the frame rate issues were a bit overblown. It's an inconsistent 60, just like the PS2 version, but yeah it slows down a bit more often. Nothing that really hinders playability IMO.
It is inferior to the PS2 version but not as much so as I was led to believe. So far, it's acceptable.
It is inferior to the PS2 version but not as much so as I was led to believe. So far, it's acceptable.
donkey show
Member
You can even use the Konami code. :3
Tizoc
Member
Hmm in that case I'll wait til there's an update that improves it then get it. Or try to get it for cheap then play it after they release an update patch that improves it.
FallingEdge
Member
I will prolly do the same. That being said, as long as the PS3 version is better than the PS2 version, then I will be a happy man (doesn't look like it right now lol).
How do they handle the pressure sensitivity in the 360 version?
Well...the PS2 version seems to run better than BOTH HD versions.
However, you can't ignore the massive bump in image quality either. The game runs at 1280x720 as opposed to, what, 512x448 interlaced?
After playing awhile in ZOE I'm thinking of just playing 2 since most say the first game isn't that good. Is that a good idea? I could careless about this story its pretty boring in the first game.
Probably a huge mecha fan period. So you have the two pronged attack of Amuro Ray and Shinji, nevermind likely many more I'm not familiar with at all (or are at least more "regular guy in out of his depth" than "hotblooded pilot").
R
Retro_
Unconfirmed Member
Yeah but I think the game is interesting because you PLAY as that kid. and I think the game did a pretty good job of letting you make the decisions he would without ever forcing you to by making things like SoS missions and protecting buildings and survivors optional behavior that was rewarded, but not required. I always thought of that as really effective storytelling through game mechanics.(found myself doing things like leading enemies to the river to minimize collateral damage. They made me play out an episode of gundam without ever dragging me to that conclusion. I just found that to be a pretty remarkable thing at the time)
I also thought the impact Leo's naivete had on ADA's development during the course of the game and the relationship that developed between them was also interesting and fun to see play out. Even with the poor script and localization.(I agree that the rest of the game's story is kind of garbage. Especially Viola)
Then there's the ending which I thought was really well done, and the best part of ZoE2's story was seeing Leo again and finding out that he didn't give up on ADA and the relationship they developed in the first game.
ZoE2 on the other hand is a series of skippable cutscenes funneling you down a linear path to completion.
and a empty small world where there are only 5-6 characters involved in what is supposed to be a huge planetary conflict. Really squandering the scope established in the previous game. World felt so huge in ZoE1 because you were such a small part in what was a black op of a much larger conflict. In ZoE2 you literally do EVERYTHING in your magical mecha of destiny. Even winning large scale battles singlehandedly at some points.(Battlefield mission is most glorified escort mission in history) as a result the world didn't feel believable or compelling at all this time around.
It's a much better action game though. I wouldn't replay ZoE1 on harder difficulties but ZoE2 is alot of fun to do so in.
R
Retro_
Unconfirmed Member
Also ZoE1 is based on gundam goddammit. Not Eva
The scenario is exactly the same as original Gundam.(boy stumbles into new model super robot as enemy faction invades his space colony in an attempt to steal it.)
Sad day when people think Eva is more influential than Gundam
The scenario is exactly the same as original Gundam.(boy stumbles into new model super robot as enemy faction invades his space colony in an attempt to steal it.)
Sad day when people think Eva is more influential than Gundam
You think the Gundam connection would be more obvious since a character designer (or was it writer?) from Gundam X is prominently credited in the game's opening, with the words "Gundam X" right there on the screen in big letters.
Didn't know never watched a lot of the original Gundam series watched some of the later ones. Gundam has certainly been around a lot longer I didn't notice as many whiny kids in it either.
donkey show
Member
I agree with a lot you say regarding how the game itself is rather shallow, but Jehuty is supposed to be the equal of Anubis, the pinnacle of Orbital Frame technology. Even prior to it getting
Zero Shift
You definitely haven't watched enough Gundam. xD
Lostconfused
Member
Considering the fact that Kid + Colony + Prototype giant robot is the set up of almost every single Universal Century thing ever.
I haven't seen enough of Gundam, but what I could gather seemed more fitting than Evangelion. Evangelion's about warding off an alien threat that you only slowly begin to understand over the course of the series (and never fully), whereas Gundam's about nations and factions warring with robots, and space colonization. The OFs are sleeker than the Gundams, but that's hardly enough to go to Evangelion.
I've heard Gundam Seed's protagonist got bad enough that in a Super Robot Wars game Shinji was giving him shit. If you push the writers to do that you must have really made a pathetic lead.
donkey show
Member
Exactly...
Mobile Suit Gundam
Zeta
ZZ
F91
Unicorn
etc.
Gundam's the grand daddy of "real robot" mecha tropes.
Lostconfused
Member
You did not just "etc." War in the Pocket.
Also now I need to get this HD collection, argh.
haha nope guess not I'll steer clear now too!
donkey show
Member
Not the same! :O
Lostconfused
Member
Close enough. 0083 and 8th MS Team are the only significant departures from the formula.
R
Retro_
Unconfirmed Member
I'm not contesting that, so much as the fact that it felt everyone on your side was completely helpless besides Jehuty.
Like even on normal, the battlefield fight is literally you running around and reviving your guys as they get their asses kicked by unmanned frames. and in the story just about nothing happens without you being there.
I'm sure it's a game design decision to not have your allies do to much and to have the player doing more cool things, but it really hurt the story and the world of the game I felt.
Your loss.
Gundam still better than the majority of stuff coming out today.
R
Retro_
Unconfirmed Member
yes
TheKaeptain
Banned
I want bad ass Adult Leo as the pilot in ZOE3.
TheKaeptain
Banned
Too bad ZOE3 will never come out
Shut your mouth!
R
Retro_
Unconfirmed Member
That's mainly what I got it for
I don't like the Remix album
To what end?
Everything was resolved in ZoE2
which is why Kojima's hints of going backwards to ancient egypt seemed more appealing than going forward in the timeline.
After ZoE2 I'm not really interested in the current setting anymore
I don't like the Remix album
To what end?
Everything was resolved in ZoE2
which is why Kojima's hints of going backwards to ancient egypt seemed more appealing than going forward in the timeline.
After ZoE2 I'm not really interested in the current setting anymore
FlashbladeGAF
Member
Too bad ZOE3 will never come out
Can't make ZOE3 without supporting the "lazy"(plays like the PS2) port
SolidSnakex
Member
PS360frame has returned with a comparison to the PS2 version
http://ps360.ldblog.jp/archives/53823421.html
http://ps360.ldblog.jp/archives/53823421.html
sechsterangriff
Member
Well, there's that whole very much hinted
Metatron is actually a hive-mind alien life form
Maybe they thought that going back to the past was the best way to do just that.
Thought that the idea for ZOE 3 is that its so far in the future we have kind of gone back to the ancient egypt era and that the Orbital Frames are now actual suits of armor that look like they have been degraded.
Has there been any comparisons between the european special edition of ZOE2 to the ZOE2 in the HD collection.
The reason I ask, is there a difference between the european special edition as opposed to the american release?
The reason I ask is when I picked up my ZOE HD LE for PS3 it says on the back the european special edition of ZOE2.
The reason I ask, is there a difference between the european special edition as opposed to the american release?
The reason I ask is when I picked up my ZOE HD LE for PS3 it says on the back the european special edition of ZOE2.
R
Retro_
Unconfirmed Member
Still just the opening section though
and holy shit at that tear percentage
That works too!
Either one is more interesting than anything else that could happen in the time period of the first two games.
At last! Join us brother!
Still waiting on my KonamiStyle PP to come in.
Oh My....... that is a thing of beauty! Where are the model kits and figures?
Also where did you get that display case? I would love to get something like.
Man, the new opening is pretty bad. The CG orbital frames I don't really have a problem with, it's the character animations when they are introduced. They look pretty ugly and are really lacking detail.. almost looks like some interns at an animation studio worked on it. It's crappy especially compared to the animation quality in ZOE 2..
SniperHunter
Banned
I'm kind of not into figures besides Kubricks though some of the ZOE ones look amazing. I got the cases from Ikea. Here's a link though I'm not sure if they make white ones like mine anymore.
R
Retro_
Unconfirmed Member
Wow....
Oyashrio-Sama
Member
That would make a great Tramp Stamp!
HA!
As I understand it this HD release is to see what the market interest is in a possible 3rd Zone game.Too bad ZOE3 will never come out
That's right.
R
Retro_
Unconfirmed Member
The demo is an install off of the Collection disc that only plays while the disc is in the tray
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