Margaery wins every episode
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Margaery wins every episode
Weird, I felt the exact same way. The writing, directing, camerawork, and even some of the sound effects felt more... cheap, I guess? Like something you would see on a more typical, lower-budget cable TV show.
Still an enjoyable episode, though. I'm glad we're starting to see more of the Whitewalkers. Sometimes I forget that this is a fantasy show. It will be extremely interesting to see all the drama and politics in Westeros put on hold so that everyone can deal with an approaching army of almost invincible, half-dead snow monsters.
Well, that's the whole point of the wall isn't it? As I understand it, it happened so long ago that it pretty much became legend and stopped being taken seriously. Kinda like how people were "yeah, dragons, sure, whatever you say" during the first season or so.
Sanctuary
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That's what I figured too from watching this episode, especially after he gets all chummy with Jon and also volunteered to go with him. Still, it's like out of the blue "surprise!" he's just randomly there.
Also: "Mommy, where do baby White Walkers come from?"
"When a man loves a baby very much, he touches it and...".
She's so goddamn gorgeous too.
TheLostBigBoss
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Well, I assume it was made. I don't really know.
soundscream
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From the HBO wiki
The Wall is a colossal fortification which stretches for 300 miles along the northern border of the Seven Kingdoms, defending the realm from the wildlings who live beyond. The Wall is reported to be over 700 feet tall and is made of solid ice. It was supposedly constructed using both magic and mundane means some eight millennia ago, in the aftermath of the Long Night to defend the realm against the White Walkers who apparently dwell in the far north, though they are now considered myths by most.
Khaleesi continues to be pure garbage. Complete filler every episode. I don't care if it's leading up to something or anything, how many fucking scenes of her saving slaves do we need to see before something interesting happens?
Give me Lannister infighting and the Arya/Hound storyline every episode plz, everything else is mediocre.
Give me Lannister infighting and the Arya/Hound storyline every episode plz, everything else is mediocre.
Tommen...
Amirite?
Also, I fucking called it on Lady Olena! It was her. What a clever, clever gal.
Jamie making a dramatic comeback! Lets hope he can remain relatively strong in this new found respect for the Starks and his oaths to them and his brother now that he basically sent away his new rock in Brienne.
Full disclosure: I have trouble spelling these names.
POOR HODOR! Jon Snow ought to slowly gut every one of those bastards that chained him up like that.
Amirite?
Also, I fucking called it on Lady Olena! It was her. What a clever, clever gal.
Jamie making a dramatic comeback! Lets hope he can remain relatively strong in this new found respect for the Starks and his oaths to them and his brother now that he basically sent away his new rock in Brienne.
Full disclosure: I have trouble spelling these names.
POOR HODOR! Jon Snow ought to slowly gut every one of those bastards that chained him up like that.
fredrancour
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It's fantasy. Long-dead people are always better at shit than living ones.
TheLostBigBoss
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Garbage? No.
The issue is pace. We have two completely separate situations in the story and they are not jiving well at all. We have a rapidily developing situation with the death of a king and all those who are effected. An incoming war with the wildlings and White Walkers.
Then you have Khaleesi who is slowly changing as a character with every city she takes.
Her arch is important, but the issue is the are failing to match the importance at this current moment of the events of Westoros.
In fact, it seems like this is a problem with this show at the moment. You have so many developing situations that are all getting pieced together at real time, but in small separate intervals.
IAmRandom31
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Something different about the whole scene but god knows what. We keep getting these little glimpses of the WW but then never seen again for 9 episodes.
The baby almost looked happy when the other WW held it? What is with the blurry line of them that the dude walks out from. Is that hinting at something? Are they like the elites or something? And is he the only one who can turn living beings into WW, and that is why the other WW must ride out to meet him? If so why can't the other WW turn these babies.
So many questions but it feels like it could lead somewhere interesting. I still want to know WTF happened to that massive WW army though.
Nikodemos
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Awesome shot.
ReturnOfTheRAT
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I loved the scene to scene editing tonight. Really well done.
New Tommen is lucky bastard. I thought he was going to become a man in this episode, maybe next time.
I a!so think the director for last week fucked up the "sex scene" with Jaime and Cersei last week. Filed a different way and we could still have Jaime be on a course for redemption. What happened last week and tonight doesn't flow together.
New Tommen is lucky bastard. I thought he was going to become a man in this episode, maybe next time.
I a!so think the director for last week fucked up the "sex scene" with Jaime and Cersei last week. Filed a different way and we could still have Jaime be on a course for redemption. What happened last week and tonight doesn't flow together.
Targaryen colors rising.
Necromanti
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So in short, Craster has been slowly helping the White Walkers grow their army so that they could finally start their march on the wall.
BigJonsson
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TheLostBigBoss
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Did the Night's Watch know what he was doing with the boys?
I was under the impression they just thought the fucker killed them, not actually give them to the WW. The NW leader was talking about how it was necessary to have Caster because it was a strategic point for a resting spot.
I believe Mormont knew what was happening.
IAmRandom31
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Jon confronts The Lord commander about what he saw Craster do with one of the babies and I forget exactly but the former Lord Commander basically told Jon to leave it be. This is what starts Jon on the path of " wanting to fight for those who fight for the living " when he is with the wildlings
Yea he gave the sword to Brienne but I'm not sure what happened to Joffrey's. Brienne's was remade from Ned Stark's sword
BigJonsson
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Whether they knew or didn't knew, they let it happen
Pretty sure Joffrey still has it on his person
Wasn't it that it was pretty much a rape scene, but the director said (thought) otherwise? From what I understood from bits and pieces of what I heard.
Not that I'm defending Jamie for it but that doesn't mean he's a complete piece of shit (or that he is); maybe he simply doesn't think straight when his sister is involved. I dunno. I felt like Cersei this episode was trying to get back at him for the rape in the Septum.
They were both remade from Ned's sword, Ned's sword being a very large sword.
Yea I used to love her scenes but they're getting pretty bland now.
Ah ok thanks for the info!
IAmRandom31
Banned
Makes you wonder why Mormont would let Craster give babies away to the white walkers and do nothing about it. Not like Craster had a giant army that was useful.
Very odd the whole Craster / Night Watch thing is to me. Just doesn't make sense.
Very odd the whole Craster / Night Watch thing is to me. Just doesn't make sense.
Nikodemos
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Mormont probably knew, but a) didn't have the capabilities to do anything meaningful about it; b) considered Craster far too important an asset for the Night's Watch to take him out.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
I maintain that she'd perform fine in a totally different role but as it stands is probably the most horribly miscast character in the show, from the perspective of a non-book reader, based simply on her given script and character arc.
Which I guess does make her a shitty actress, given the whole point of acting is to embody identities that aren't your own. But actors do often have personality strengths and weaknesses. This is a glaring example of a huge fucking weakness.
ReturnOfTheRAT
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I'm not going to use the r word, I'll just say it was an unwarranted action in a bad place, considering their dead son is lying on a table right next to them. The fact that the scene can be interpreted in such different ways mires the path Jaime has been on, for me last least.
Yea couldn't Mormont have done away with Craster and installed his own people there to maintain the strategic point?
Nikodemos
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They probably ran the risk of going native/running away. You're talking about a bunch of people press-ganged from the ranks of rapers, thieves, murderers, disinherited etc.
jediyoshi
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Craster gives Walkers babies -> Walkers don't fuck with Craster -> Craster is able to maintain a useful outpost for the Night Watch so far north of the wall -> Night Watch don't fuck with Craster
Yea that's a good point. jediyoshi makes a really good point as well. Guess it could've made sense for all parties to have Craster give those babies away
TheLostBigBoss
Banned
Maybe Mormont knows that there isn't anything they can do to stop the White Walkers?
Just keep the status quo for as long as possible, no need to stir the cage?
IAmRandom31
Banned
I don't know. Craster did not seem so welcoming to Mormont that time the group of them showed up on his doorstep. Did not look like a set outpost for the Nights Watch to utilize
Seemed more like a " hey I know of a place to rest for the night " type moment not " hey let's head to our designated outpost for food and shelter I restock for the trip "
SUMMER
GHOST
Theyre all gonna die arent they T_T
I hope not.
They need to stop killing Starks.
FantasticMrFoxdie
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Well this is a show where a twin brother raped his twin sister right next to their dead son's body.
...so its tough to call.
Still six more episodes to go though!
BentBricks
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Congrats on all those that guessed the killer of Joffrey. I can't believe it all depended on
What if she didn't?
Move over Jaimie, there is a new Kingslayer.
Eps 4 was good, but nothing too exciting. It seemed like mostly a setup episode. Plus no Arya and her Hound.
Sansa wearing the necklace.
Move over Jaimie, there is a new Kingslayer.
Eps 4 was good, but nothing too exciting. It seemed like mostly a setup episode. Plus no Arya and her Hound.
ReturnOfTheRAT
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Kings Landing isn't Florida...
Forceatowulf
G***n S**n*bi
Great episode. This season is damn good thus far. Only 6 more left 
I can't stand reading this thread some times though. The hate for the Breaker of Chains is so ridiculous up in here. It's like we're watching two completely different shows.
I can't stand reading this thread some times though. The hate for the Breaker of Chains is so ridiculous up in here. It's like we're watching two completely different shows.
ReturnOfTheRAT
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Great episode. This season is damn good thus far. Only 6 more left
I can't stand reading this thread some times though. The hate for the Breaker of Chains is so ridiculous up in here. It's like we're watching two completely different shows.
People hated last weeks episode?
Jaime rape.
I didn't hate it but it was a lot less eventful/interesting than all the other episodes in the season thus far. I love the Arya/Hound scenes though
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