Caayn
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Plasma, LCD, OLED, LED, best tv for next gen
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With fixed pixel displays all content is necessarily converted to the panel's native resolution. Otherwise you'd be getting a tiny 1080p image in the middle of your 4k tv. I've found the Sony's upscaling to be very good on high quality content.
haZethew0rld
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Best 42' for <$500?
So how good do games look upscaled to 4k exactly?
Totally awesome or what?
Is it a night and day difference in picture compared to 1080 displays?
LG 42 LN5400 is $419.99 at best buy today. 120hz native and a good looking panel. Non-smart. Good looking picture, great value. Just a warning, sale ends tonight. Normally $499.99.
No they look pretty much the same as on a 1080p screen assuming you are turning down most of the upscaling features in order to minimize input lag in game mode.
Good thing the software, especially the newest version, does such a great job that you don't need the GUY.
If I ignore the input lag (offline sp anyway) and turn up the upscaling features?
Will it blow me away?
Upscaling won't blow you away, you need actual 4K content.
I have the Samsung HU8550, upscaled 1080p content looks good, basically the same as it does on a quality 1080p set. If I get too close to the screen however it starts to look blurry, similar to how if you get too close to the screen on a 1080p set you start to see the pixels. With native 4K I can sit 2ft away and still have a razor sharp picture.
Ok, thanks. Gaming is my priority with this tv purchase.
So 4k upscaling- not a selling point. Got it!
Can anyone else take a stab at the rest of my above questions?
ss_lemonade
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Most Sony high end TVs I believe have a motionflow mode called impulse that pretty much eliminates blur if a game runs at a constant high frame rate like 60fps. Using this on lower frame rate games still minimizes blur but moving objects seem to gain a sort of double image in place (which isn't normally visible due to blurring when not using impulse). Its what I noticed with my w900a so I normally toggle between impulse and no motionflow at all, depending on the game.
What would TV Gaf say is the best deal for a 55-60" TV? We have a 46" Sony on the wall, but looks kind of small and Im itching to find a reason to upgrade. I do NOT want to break the bank though, I'm thinking anything between 800 to 1600 maybe? Or am I wanting too much for that price range. We have a large living room wall.
Splash Wave
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I'm looking for a good TV around $500, and this looks like it might fit the bill:
Sharp LC-48LE551U
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IN2WDHU/?tag=neogaf0e-20
But I can't seem to find any online feedback on it--is it new? Is Sharp generally a safe bet?
Sharp LC-48LE551U
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IN2WDHU/?tag=neogaf0e-20
But I can't seem to find any online feedback on it--is it new? Is Sharp generally a safe bet?
Sharp TVs are known for high Input Lag. See here:
http://www.displaylag.com/display-database/
So, I wouldn't suggest that brand.
A friend of mine just got his own place, he asked for my help to find a good TV at a decent price. (Below $1000)
I looked at most stores (Frys, Wal-Mart, Sears, Best-Buy etc.) and unfortunately 95% of their TV inventory is filled with Edge-Lit LED's that suffer from poor blacks and clouding issues.
There were some Samsung Plasmas but after measuring Input Lag using Leo Bodnar's measuring tool I decided not to consider them. (Results ranged from 80ms to 120ms)
At the end of the weekend this was the best option.
50"120hz 1080P Full Array LED (16 zones)
Input Lag results for gaming (27ms using Computer Mode)
Calibration settings used for movies/tv.
Review: http://reviews.lcdtvbuyingguide.com/vizio-lcd-tv/vizio-e500i-b1.html
I looked at most stores (Frys, Wal-Mart, Sears, Best-Buy etc.) and unfortunately 95% of their TV inventory is filled with Edge-Lit LED's that suffer from poor blacks and clouding issues.
There were some Samsung Plasmas but after measuring Input Lag using Leo Bodnar's measuring tool I decided not to consider them. (Results ranged from 80ms to 120ms)
At the end of the weekend this was the best option.
50"120hz 1080P Full Array LED (16 zones)
Input Lag results for gaming (27ms using Computer Mode)
Calibration settings used for movies/tv.
Review: http://reviews.lcdtvbuyingguide.com/vizio-lcd-tv/vizio-e500i-b1.html
haZethew0rld
Member
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CI3BP06/?tag=neogaf0e-20 this doesn't look like a bad option, it has 26ms input lag according to displaylag, what do you guys think?
Splash Wave
Member
Is there anything else you'd recommend in that price range?
Dee Dah Dave
Member
Looks like the Sony W900/905 is still the TV(LCD) to get. I hope I can still grab one later this year, many places in the UK seem to have stopped doing it.
Splash Wave
Member
Anyone have good things to say about this? It's at the top of my price range, but it looks nice:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HPMCN7Y/?tag=neogaf0e-20
But what I'm worried about is that reviews of the 40-inch model say that Motion Flow can't be turned off, and that's a problem.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HPMCN7Y/?tag=neogaf0e-20
But what I'm worried about is that reviews of the 40-inch model say that Motion Flow can't be turned off, and that's a problem.
I have it and it's wonderful. The 40 and 48 are part of the w600 series which is a step down from the W800. You can absolutely turn off the motionflow on this TV. The input lag is top notch, I believe it's only got 22ms on the Leo Bodnar.
Calibration settings used for movies/tv.
Do those settings work on Sony TVs as well? I just bought a Sony Bravia and the graphical noise around the edges of characters in games looks terrible.
Unknown Soldier
Member
Every TV has different settings.
Splash Wave
Member
Oops--I didn't realize this was a *new* TV. I think the problem I'm referring to is from last year's model.
Thanks for chiming in, dude.
old W8 sucked, new W8's rock... in fact, all of their new TV's rock except for new W9... so it would be the best to find 2013 W905a if people were looking for high end 1080p display.
A friend of mine just got his own place, he asked for my help to find a good TV at a decent price. (Below $1000)
I looked at most stores (Frys, Wal-Mart, Sears, Best-Buy etc.) and unfortunately 95% of their TV inventory is filled with Edge-Lit LED's that suffer from poor blacks and clouding issues.
There were some Samsung Plasmas but after measuring Input Lag using Leo Bodnar's measuring tool I decided not to consider them. (Results ranged from 80ms to 120ms)
At the end of the weekend this was the best option.
50"120hz 1080P Full Array LED (16 zones)
Input Lag results for gaming (27ms using Computer Mode)
Calibration settings used for movies/tv.
Review: http://reviews.lcdtvbuyingguide.com/vizio-lcd-tv/vizio-e500i-b1.html
I have the 55 inch version and the blacks are deep and the whites are bright and clean. The image is very crisp and colorful but I will say it could be brighter for an LED. Overall an awesome deal!
Splash Wave
Member
Are the W6 TVs any good? The 48-inch isn't significantly cheaper, but I need to consider all of my options.
It's probably better to just pay more for the better TV, as I keep such purchases for quite awhile.
Panasonic AX800 / AX802 4K Edge-lit Review
Should be interesting to see what happens to pricing in the next few months with most of the Samsungs already out (already had a $500 cut) and Sony sets starting to come out now. Toshiba should have their 4K FALD sets out by June/July.
Should be interesting to see what happens to pricing in the next few months with most of the Samsungs already out (already had a $500 cut) and Sony sets starting to come out now. Toshiba should have their 4K FALD sets out by June/July.
Wolfgang Jr
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You really need to sit back and do some some serious reading if you're going to be throwing $3k at a set.
Try this: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2379206,00.asp
tl;dr
Anything advertised above 60Hz is marketing bollocks. Software reads the source material and throws in an extra 'smoothing' frame(s) to make it 120Hz etc. Smoother? Yes. Horrible? Yes. Sells TV? Yes.
Thanks. Looking into it now.
I really wish Sony would make XBR Trinitron CRT sets again with 1080p.
Just a 36" wide screen would be perfect.
(W600)From what I saw in person, they seem to have good picture quality very decent black levels. They only have a native 60hz panel, not the 240hz motionflow they advertise. The build quality I hear, is not as good as the higher models. It's better to see it in person though, what I find to good might not be up to par with your expectations.
^^ Same here.
Do you guys know a site or anything that can help with my TV settings?
I want to get the best picture from it but I feel like I only messed things up lol
I'd love to know some good settings for Gaming and movies.
I don't watch much TV so I don't really mind if it look like shit in that department but movies and gaming is a must here.
Any help would be highly appreciated.
Oh, btw, it's a Samsung 55" LED TV for what it's worth.
Do you guys know a site or anything that can help with my TV settings?
I want to get the best picture from it but I feel like I only messed things up lol
I'd love to know some good settings for Gaming and movies.
I don't watch much TV so I don't really mind if it look like shit in that department but movies and gaming is a must here.
Any help would be highly appreciated.
Oh, btw, it's a Samsung 55" LED TV for what it's worth.
Splash Wave
Member
Is the difference between 60 and 120hz something I'll really notice if I'm coming from a shitty old TN Samsung monitor? If not, I'm definitely getting the 48-inch W6 ASAP.
And this is the same TV as the US W6, right? http://www.trustedreviews.com/sony-kdl-40w605b_TV_review_picture-quality_Page-2#tr-review-summary
To be quite honest, I don't think you'll see a notable difference. I'm an avid anime watcher and I've always gotten this slight judder when it's panning across on my old TV which is absent on my new one (w800). However, other than that I don't really see any difference in any non-animated shows or movies. And yes, I believe the w605b is just the UK/EU version of the w600.
Splash Wave
Member
Perfect, thanks. Since I now live in NYC, it just occurred to me that I can actually see these TVs in person at the Madison Ave. store. Doing this is today's errand.
Splash Wave
Member
I looked at the W6 today in person and thought it looked fantastic.
Now I'm deciding between 40 and 48 inches. If I'm ~6' from the screen (max), which is ideal? 48 seems better on paper, but I'm worried I'll start to seeing imperfections if I'm too close. I'm coming from a 27-inch Samsung, too, so both screens will look pretty huge to me.
Now I'm deciding between 40 and 48 inches. If I'm ~6' from the screen (max), which is ideal? 48 seems better on paper, but I'm worried I'll start to seeing imperfections if I'm too close. I'm coming from a 27-inch Samsung, too, so both screens will look pretty huge to me.
GO BIG OR GO HOME! x)
DTS-HD Master Audio
Neo Member
Thank god I have a KURO.
Unknown Soldier
Member
The TV is only half the home theater though. You need a receiver and a nice set of speakers if you're going to decode and enjoy DTS-HD Master Audio.
Splash Wave
Member
Done! But I have what *should* be my last question.
I'm trying to decide between ordering from the Sony Store and Amazon. The latter will ship faster (I have Prime), but I have a feeling my warranty options aren't as thorough as what Sony can provide. Also, does Amazon schedule delivery times with large items like this? I *have* to be home when it's sent, and I know that the carriers Sony uses will at least give a time for when they're arriving.
You can extend your service plan on Sony's site as long as its within the first year.
Not sure about Amazon's delivery for TV, chat support and they'll let you know im sure
Unfortunately I'm can't give you a thorough answer on this one except choose whichever you think is the best option that will work for you. Enjoy your TV!