AuthenticM
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I think it would make a very interesting stand-alone story; but I would not develop it past one game.
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I think it would make a very interesting stand-alone story; but I would not develop it past one game.
Shinobi says otherwise.
There's plenty. They botched the story harder than anything else. But that's not why I play Mass Effect.
He asked to name them, not to state a vague quantity.
Common sense says that as well.
BouncyFrag
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I'm now excite about e3.
I think they could get more than 1 out. The first game would end with our hero somehow making peace and finding a way to communicate with the aliens. The third one would end with the council being formed after some drama or something. And I'm sure they could figure something out for the second one. I suppose the first one could be about a civil war between humans ending in one government for humans, heavily influenced by decision you have made. Then the second one would be about the war with aliens.
Except ME wouldn't be in that group, since the franchise bailed at Mass Effect 2, mid-way through the generation, which was the first chance EA had.
Sigh. Off the top of my head: Alan Wake, Witcher 2, Braid, Spec Ops, Bioshock Infinite, RDR, Persona 4, Last of Us, Walking Dead,... There are literally dozens. Only the first Mass Effect has a decent story. The second one might as well not exist and it wouldn't matter a damn thing in regards to the overall trilogy. And let's not talk about the laughable asspulls in the third one.
But like I said, that's not why I play Mass Effect.
That's a highly contestable list, we can argue about these all week. In terms of games I played and finished, I wouldn't put Bioshock Infinite, Witcher 2, Braid or even oscar-bait TLOU ahead of ME in terms of world-building.
Agreed. Mass Effect is great because of the universe itself, not the story. Once I accepted this I didn't really care that a napkin-writer ruined the story.
I hope future Mass Effects aren't a trilogy, or part of a series but one shots or maybe a duology. I would love a First Contact War game, an espionage game. We have Infiltrators, why not put that cloak to use other than an 80% damage boost?
We were talking about the main story, not world-building. Mass Effect has excellent world-building, I don't think anyone can dispute that.
Anos Voldigoad
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I'm quite hyped to play the next Mass Effect on PS4. I hope the rumour of it being a Sequel is true. If it's indeed a prequel, then I will finally say goodbye to the ME franchise. After the fiasco that happened with ME3 and you expect me to go back in time, Bioware? No thanks.
WrenchNinja
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Ghost Trick
They released a business model for the MP that was fantastic - all the MP DLC was free, and everything was available with in-game currency as well as small amounts of real cash should you choose to spend it.
Still salty I could never get my Harrier to Level X thought; I kept getting weapons I never used, like the Black Widow...
It'd be at this point of the conversation that I'd disregard EVERYTHING that the dude had to say about Mass Effect.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Would GAF go nuclear? I believe so. I sure as hell know I'd be spitting tacks if that happened.
Even that is quite debatable. My own personal subjective:
Bioshock Infinite is essentially like Bioshock 1, where you're a protagonist wondering why you're dumped in this semi-fantastical freeze-period insulated world, and you're deeply connected to the antagonist in a way which is revealed when you confront him. Also little girls are involved.
The Last of Us is another human drama put against a zombie backdrop. It lives or dies based on the characterization of Joel and Ellen Page. There isn't much of a main story except you just want to get to point B, and it's all about the relationship between the two of them when they meander between unconnected set-pieces along the way.
Braid story is... random excepts of cryptic text, with the only brilliant part when you reverse time at the end.
Witcher 2 is overrated. The GoT-like geopolitics is emphasized but ends up as a random blurb of exposition which doesn't help me remember the world or the key people like I would Wrex or Illium. Which kingdom is doing what? Why the hell am I helping either kingdom when I could sneak around to find Letho? Why did Triss and Geralt have random sex when they fell into a cave after just escaping?
Maybe I'm an invested fanboy, but none of the above main story conclusions even matched up to Krogan Genophage arc side story.
shinobi602
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I liked the genophage arc too and am glad Patrick Weekes is also working on Dragon Age 3 but one good side arc can't make up for a multitude of failures elsewhere.
The central Reaper plot is an absolute mess and the Cerberus stuff that dominated the last two games was just terrible. Yeah, Martin Sheen is great and all but goodness that was awful.
We can nitpick at TW2 but its problems are pretty small compared to Mass Effect's glaring issues across the board.
Your analogy actually further proves my point. It's extremely different for the LOTR movies, the Mass Effect games on the other hand do a lot of that 'let's summarize the backstory into these few sentences that will casually be dropped at the beginning of this scene' especially in the beginning of 2 and 3. On top of that, ME2 & 3 have much more stand-alone stories than LOTR 2 & 3, they truly can be enjoyed as great stand-alone games. Again, I do not deny that you'd miss out on a lot, but you sure as hell wouldn't be lost.
edit: and I'm not even factoring in those prologue animation things they added if you really wanna be looped in
Dirk Benedict
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I'd like to see the Leviathans catch the spotlight. They are still pretty enigmatic and supposedly considered the "apex race" across the Galaxy...
If Shep was alive, he would be the Apex race, humanity aside even.
Endings aside, I thought Cerberus was clever. It's a subversion of the usual space fantasy trope where humans are like the focal point of the universe (Star Wars, Star Trek). Here the alien races are the real peacekeepers, and humans instead formed resourceful terrorist networks to further their ultra-racial agenda. Slightly allegorical to current events.
Yo, you are writing off my TW2 gripes as nitpicks
The main bulk of the story is a GOT-blurb of kingdom A attacking Kingdom B, without giving me enough investment to care about the outcomes when all I want is to find a dude. Hell, at this point I don't even remember their kings, scheming witches or kingdoms, just that they are power-hungry douches. But somehow I can remember Vvardenfell, Lordran, Tervinter and Tuchanka.That's not really subverting a trope because it still has a human focus. Whether that focus is ultimately contextualized in a more diverse universe doesn't matter. You're playing a human, to do tasks for a human, whose goal is to help humanity. Humans (like Earth) are a de facto focal point in the ME Universe if you consider the ME Universe Shepard's story (which it is).
I bought the Mass Effect Trilogy last week during the PSN sale. US$15 for all three games seemed too good to pass up because I've heard good things. I've got a few weeks' worth of backlog before I get to them, but people seem to love it so I'd definitely look forward to a next gen version.
BTW, is the PS port good? I bought it on impulse but I think everyone I've heard discuss the game had it on Xbox.
BTW, is the PS port good? I bought it on impulse but I think everyone I've heard discuss the game had it on Xbox.
A bit odd for the producer of the Mass Effect series to say that, I know he's in the Bioware family, but if Mass Effect is showing up at E3..?
ME4 could just be a trailer - initial reveal sort of thing. Clearly they will probably show a LOT more of a game that's coming out in 4 months.
The Silver
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they played it really straight in ME2 were the Reapers were orgasming over how diverse and unique humanity was.
Vire
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Yeah, I think you are right. Dragon Age is obviously going to get a full on extended demo, Mass Effect will probably be a short tease.
You're only playing through the perspective of a human.
The focus shifted from humans being the all-american hero always fixing alien shit to humans doing shady stuff. Here the humans want to matter, but the means to achieve this stinks of ultra-nationalism and shady as hell so you are forced to confront this all game as you perform stuff "for humanity".
The Silver
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A bit odd for the producer of the Mass Effect series to say that, I know he's in the Bioware family, but if Mass Effect is showing up at E3..?
Ya know it's odd, Dragon Age should really be seen as a bigger series than ME but it isn't. Mass Effect is the high profile blockbuster that everyone talks about yet Origins is still their best selling game.(at least I think it still is)
Did DA2 cause that much damage? Damn Bioware.
Hibiki Kurosawa
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Well that pretty much confirms it...
Yeah, that's how I took it. They'll have a strong showing for Dragon Age since it's their focus this year, while ME will be announced with a trailer and maybe some small gameplay snippet.
EatChildren
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A bit odd for the producer of the Mass Effect series to say that, I know he's in the Bioware family, but if Mass Effect is showing up at E3..?
The focus is Dragon Age. Really, Dragon Age hasn't had much of a presence at E3 beyond last year's trailer. Technically no gameplay sequence has been shown at E3 at all. All the gameplay details and footage we've got have come from magazines and PAX. This'll be the first big gameplay showing of Inquisition at E3, as they gear up for the big release at the end of the year.
For that reason I wouldn't expect the focus on Mass Effect 4 to be huge. It might just be a teaser trailer. Or a trailer similar to Inquisition's announcement last year. I wouldn't be surprised if it's not at all playable.
As someone who didn't like DA1 at all, and didn't touch DA2, should I even attempt DAI? I played the PC version btw. Didn't like the MMO like quickbar and stuff. I wonder how the console versions played in combat?
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Honestly I love Mass Effect more than any other franchise but its ok for DAI to get the spotlight. DAI looks like an amazing game and ME will be good no matter what.
captainraincoat
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Mass effect makes more sense than any of the rumored titles that people think is the big third party exclusive that's to be revealed......there will be a few meltdowns if true
MS certainly have the cash to splash so anything is possible
Really? Mass Effect makes sense being exclusive after being on PC/PS3/360?
Kotor would make more sense then that, and remember it's timed.
Yeah, EA won't need any help funding a new Mass Effect and exclusivity to one console would be missing out on a lot of sales. They'd lose my sixty bucks since I ain't buying a One anytime soon even if it's becoming a pretty decent console.
They also put it on PC, didn't they...?
Besides, Mass Effect doesn't have Call of Duty's rep. You can't lock Mass Effect for a single console after creating so much horrifically bad will for ME3.
MrTroubleMaker
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