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[TheBaronOfNA]

Better safe than sorry.

Everything is shit until proven otherwise.

I hope it's good, and I hope that my fears are unfounded. I'm sure it will be fun to play. But it doesn't change that I'm thinking about the social aspect of it.

That is good. And I actually agree with your concerns to a degree... but after the initial shitstorm about the villian race I tend to be wary of jumping the gun even if it just to "spread" awareness.

 

[Beefy]

Yes and yes

So a gay guy stereotyping how a gay guy is. What is this world coming to....

 

[amar212]

What the fuck man, RE5 takes place in AFRICA
AFRICA
AFRICA. Who else do you want there? Chinese Zombies? White Zombies?

Jesus.

Well, in Metro games you are killing Russians.

And Metro games are made by Ukranian studio.

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[Uno Venova]

what we need to do is start killing a variety of races, regardless of geographical location.

 

[Orayn]

Between this thread and the last one jumping to the conclusion that the villain was white, it feels like people are rushing to label this game as some variety of offensive before they even know who the characters are or why they're doing anything. If I'm going to be bothered by something, I'd rather it be about what a game is, instead of what a game might be.

I understand that Far Cry 3 bothered a lot of people, and that's not unreasonable. But perhaps that game is more an outlier than an indication of a franchise mission to demean minorities? Even when hearing discussion of that game, I can't help but think of the Rock Paper Shotgun interview with its writer, who seemed to firmly believe that the game satirized and undermined all the stereotypes people found it guilty of, both in terms of race and in terms of being a violent action game.

Considering how poorly that message came across, they didn't succeed at that goal as writers. But even from what we've learned at E3, they're trying to correct the most obvious mistakes that were made, since as we can see now, the protagonist is not a racial outsider. Ubisoft's been one of the most progressive publishers outside of Far Cry 3 (most notably with Assassin's Creed), so I'm willing to wait to learn more before I jump on them for negatively stereotyping homosexuals.

I agree with all of this post. I want to give Ubi the benefit of the doubt, they're just doing something that's very easy to screw up.

 

[funkypie]

Good for you. But some people like to create their characters after themselves, and others are just tired of constantly playing as a straight, white male.

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Do not buy games featuring those characters then problem solved.

you're complaining about lack of gay characters then are complaining about the main villain in FC4 being gay. You are contradicting yourself.

How do you know some of those straight white males you've played as are not gay? I don't see why a game characters sexuality needs to be rammed down our throats. Nor do I see why I need to see characters have sexual relationships in games, gay or straight, they contribute nothing to actual entertainment or fun.

It sounds like you should be on the streets championing for same sex marriage rather than beating the drum on a game forum.

 

[Garrett Hawke]

Between this thread and the last one jumping to the conclusion that the villain was white, it feels like people are rushing to label this game as some variety of offensive before they even know who the characters are or why they're doing anything. If I'm going to be bothered by something, I'd rather it be about what a game is, instead of what a game might be.

I understand that Far Cry 3 bothered a lot of people, and that's not unreasonable. But perhaps that game is more an outlier than an indication of a franchise mission to demean minorities? Even when hearing discussion of that game, I can't help but think of the Rock Paper Shotgun interview with its writer, who seemed to firmly believe that the game satirized and undermined all the stereotypes people found it guilty of, both in terms of race and in terms of being a violent action game. Considering how poorly that message came across, they didn't succeed at that goal as writers. But even from what we've learned at E3, they're trying to correct the most obvious mistakes that were made, since as we can see now, the protagonist is not a racial outsider. Ubisoft's been one of the most progressive publishers outside of Far Cry 3 (most notably with Assassin's Creed), so I'm willing to wait to learn more before I jump on them for negatively stereotyping homosexuals.

I'm glad you've brought this up, and while I get what he was trying to do, it didn't come across for a LOT of players. He has previously talked about how the "bad" ending (i.e. staying) shows exactly what he was trying to put across, and "subverts" the rest of the stereotypes by having the MC fail. Yet including that as an option at the end doesn't change the fact that the rest of the game is full to the brim of negative stereotypes.

I really hope that they've learned. But I'm remaining cautious. I'm sure this will be addressed at some point, anyway.

 

[gogosox82]

And the majority of the population is white. Should games enforce positive discrimination to? Also I said american, not white american. Just so happens that the guy in the game is white.

and what has sexuality got to do with what I posted, although it is the topic of the thread.

About 70% of the American population is white. About 99% of the games we get star white male cis protagonists.

and? maybe people should stop being obsessed with labels, appearance, race etc in games. When I play a game and the character is black or anything but a white male, I don't see it as <insert race/label> I see it as a character in a computer game.

Congratulations that it doesn't effect you. Did it ever occur to you that it effects other people though? Maybe people want to play a black protagonist, or a female protagonist, a black female protagonist, etc and not be forced to play a white male protagonist?

you're thread is ridiculous and a mod should lock it, like the other farcry 4 thread on the exact same subject.

Your more than welcome to stop reading the thread if the topic isn't something your interesting in.

 

[Beefy]

what we need to do is start killing a variety of races, regardless of geographical location.

Or kill every one so our character is the only person left in the world.

 

[JayEH]

Wait, we're having this conversation again? The game isn't even out!

 

[Zornack]

Between this thread and the last one jumping to the conclusion that the villain was white, it feels like people are rushing to label this game as some variety of offensive before they even know who the characters are or why they're doing anything. If I'm going to be bothered by something, I'd rather it be about what a game is, instead of what a game might be.

Yup, I'm a bit distraught by how quickly some people want to label Far Cry 4 as politically incorrect.

Luckily it looks to be a minority of people, though.

 

[Erebus]

I'm not speaking of the OP or anyone in particular really but people tend to be offended by anything these days.

 

[KingFire]

Are you going to complain about the villain in the Silence of The Lambs ? Because by your logic, the movie makers were putting the LGBT community under some bad light. And that interesting villain should have never existed.

There is nothing wrong with being gay. Being a villain or a good guy is irrelevant. The way you seem to look at it is "he is gay, which is even worse than being a villain and straight." To me, he is just a bad guy who happens to be (probably) gay. There is no correlation.

Now you can argue that the target audience will not view it my way. This is extremely offensive, as it implies that the majority of gamers who will be interested in this game are homophobic. I refuse to accept this. In fact, I demand an apology.

I am all for minority representation in video games. But I am also against excessive political correctness. A writer/artist should be free to create his characters with no restrictions regarding ethnicity or sexual orientation. If he wants to make his villain a black Asian gay, then so be it.

This is all under assumption that the villain is actually gay. We do not really know.

 

[Uno Venova]

i'm definitely going to buy this game, if the devs or the story don't confirm the villain is gay, what stereotypes should i look out for to confirm he is in fact, a homosexual male.

 

[funkypie]

The game is fun to play, and I do enjoy and play it. I can do all of this and also dislike some elements of it.

AGAIN, I am not mad that the main character is white. I am annoyed that the game depicts basically every non-white character is powerless or cannon fodder, with white people being essentially the only ones capable of moving the plot forward.

I don't think this is part of an overt racist agenda on Ubisoft's part, they just got lazy recycled a type of plot that carries some not-so-good implications. They did try to make the "twist" that Jason is a bad person too, but that was kind of drowned out by the whole "LOOK AT ALL THE COOL SHIT YOU CAN DO" factor.

erm bro, you can't be new to video games. Everyone other than the player character is powerless in every game.

in COD, you're 3 or 4 man team, but thanks to the player character they repeatedly win wars.

 

[Orayn]

Yup, I'm a bit distraught by how quickly some people want to label Far Cry 4 as politically incorrect.

Luckily it looks to be a minority of people, though.

I think it's perfectly valid to raise the concern after they bungled the intended message in the last game. Still way to early for outright condemnation, but I don't think I've seen anyone do that in this thread.

erm bro, you can't be new to video games. Everyone other than the player character is powerless in every game.

in COD, you're 3 or 4 man team, but thanks to the player character they repeatedly win wars.

I'm aware of the way those mechanics work, I just think there are shitty, careless ways of doing it.

 

[LiquidNarwhal]

Are you going to complain about the villain in the Silence of The Lambs ? Because by your logic, the movie makers were putting the LGBT community under some bad light. And that interesting villain should have never existed.

There is nothing wrong with being gay. Being a villain or a good guy is irrelevant. The way you seem to look at it is "he is gay, which is even worse than being a villain and straight." To me, he is just a bad guy who happens to be (probably) gay. There is no correlation.

Now you can argue that the target audience will not view it my way. This is extremely offensive, as it implies that the majority of gamers who will be interested in this game are homophobic. I refuse to accept this. In fact, I demand an apology.

I am all for minority representation in video games. But I am also against excessive political correctness. A writer/artist should be free to create his characters with no restrictions regarding ethnicity or sexual orientation. If he wants to make his villain a black Asian gay, then so be it.

This is all under assumption that the villain is actually gay. We do not really know.

THANK YOU. Someone finally realized how insulting OP's post is.

 

[hydrophilic attack]

Personal attacks are the easiest way to concede in an argument you don't have an answer to.

Sorry, that was uncalled for. And had I read the OP more thoroughly, I would have seen that you said you are part of the LGBT community yourself, so what I said didn't make a lot of sense.

Still, my main point still stands. I didn't get any impression at all of the villain being gay.

Also, I don't see why it matters whether the villain is gay or not. Surely, the most important thing should be more LGBT representation in games full stop.

 

[Jado]

There's a problem when people are attacking a game and its developers when they haven't seen anything to confirm what they're afraid of yet...
I'm not living under a rock. People in this industry complain over the most ridiculous things. All we've seen of this character is a small trailer and his apparel and already everyone is up in arms over nothing. Why should developers even bother with LGBT characters when people throw a hissy-fit every time over literally nothing.

The funniest part of this is that we don't even know if the character is gay and I could seriously care less about his sexuality. The dude's rocking a purple suit and a cool haircut. The devs won't handle the game poorly because that would be brand suicide. Seeing all of the Twitter rage and threads like this on the Internet; do you really think they'd insult homosexuals like that with their character?

People want gay characters in video games? Here's a (potential) gay character in a AAA game. Wish (potentially) granted.

Brand suicide? You mean like the horrible depictions of minorities in Far Cry 3 burned Ubisoft to the ground? Yeah, right.

What the fuck man, RE5 takes place in AFRICA
AFRICA
AFRICA. Who else do you want there? Chinese Zombies? White Zombies?

Jesus.

This is ridiculous and not at all what I said. No, I didn't expect Chinese zombies in a game set in Africa. I expected better depictions of Africans in Africa, like in reality and to reduce the very real perpetuated stereotypes that black people are poor and hostile. RE4 did a better job with its Spaniards (I remember thinking they were in Latin American but not finding anything particularly offensive either way). The game, RE5, is full of classic racist imagery and depicts Africans as hostile and living like savages in squalor, AND it was actually much worse until the trailers broke and Capcom scrambled into damage control and add black characters that weren't complete beasts and villains that weren't all dark.

 

[Garrett Hawke]

Are you going to complain about the villain in the Silence of The Lambs ? Because by your logic, the movie makers were putting the LGBT community under some bad light. And that interesting villain should have never existed.

I haven't seen it.

There is nothing wrong with being gay. Being a villain or a good guy is irrelevant. The way you seem to look at it is "he is gay, which is even worse than being a villain and straight." To me, he is just a bad guy who happens to be (probably) gay. There is no correlation.

That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is putting a gay character in a position that already generates hatred is only likely to add fuel to the hatred. That, and I'm concerned about the way that the writers will handle it considering the way they handled FC3.

Now you can argue that the target audience will not view it my way. This is extremely offensive, as it implies that the majority of gamers who will be interested in this game are homophobic. I refuse to accept this. In fact, I demand an apology.

I have nothing to apologise for. If you don't feel that way, then it doesn't apply to you. But it doesn't change the fact that on every gaming community you go to on the internet there is homophobia, intolerance, and bigotry.

I am all for minority representation in video games. But I am also against excessive political correctness. A writer/artist should be free to create his characters with no restrictions regarding ethnicity or sexual orientation. If he wants to make his villain a black Asian gay, then so be it.

Asking for better LGBT/race/gender etc representation in video games is in no way encroaching on an "artistic vision" anyway more than the AAA machine already is, with it's focus testing and market analysis.

 

[Garrett Hawke]

Sorry, that was uncalled for. And had I read the OP more thoroughly, I would have seen that you said you are part of the LGBT community yourself, so what I said didn't make a lot of sense.

It's okay, I appreciate the apology. Thank you.

Still, my main point still stands. I didn't get any impression at all of the villain being gay.

Also, I don't see why it matters whether the villain is gay or not. Surely, the most important thing should be more LGBT representation in games full stop.

I agree that there should be way more LGBT representation in games. But I don't think placing one in a position to be hated when there are so few LGBT characters in games in the first place is a good idea.

 

[Zornack]

I think it's perfectly valid to raise the concern after they bungled the intended message in the last game. Still way to early for outright condemnation, but I don't think I've seen anyone do that in this thread.

I just don't understand the point of it. It'd be like me making a thread worrying about the new Zelda's combat mechanics after seeing the trailer. Yeah, Skyward Sword had (in my opinion) bad combat, and Far Cry 3 had a bad and, lets say challenged, story, but we have no context for these new games so preemptively worrying about them seems pointless to me.

 

[a.wd]

Game looks good, character looks fleshed out and interesting, tbh he seems like an anti hero which falls into your "positive character" thing.

Probably just being sensitive to an issue that whilst it should be addressed this is probably not the game to use as a springboard for this discussion.

 

[royalan]

Hm. Say that he didn't seem gay to me, compare him to a character who's only sexual attraction is arguably his sister, and a character who fetishizes torture, regardless of the gender of his subject...

And, somehow my comment was supporting the vilification of homosexuals?

There are plenty of fucked off manifestations of sexuality that are not a normal emergence of someones natural self, like homosexuality, transsexualism, etc. Things that result from trauma, or damaged personalities getting all tangled up in their ideas of sex. This is the impression the villain gave me. Not a gay man who is an evil pervert. A strange, and therefore unsettling and unpredictable loose cannon, because even he may not know who or what the hell he is.

My post wasn't directed at you, specifically. Apologies if it came off that way--you just indirectly highlighted the core reason a lot of people find the portrayal of homosexuals in video games problematic. Someone's sexuality should not be used as an indicator of how "warped" they are. Full stop. If your villain's characterization relies on gay stereotypes and stroking the fires of latent homophobia in order to make them threatening, then you suck at villains.

Also, in regards to the bolded, I realize that I may be legitimately misinterpreting you here...but, just to be clear: you think homosexuality and transexualism are "fucked off" manifestations of normal sexuality and the self? Because if so...wow. Dude, quit while you're ahead.

 

[frey]

Are you going to complain about the villain in the Silence of The Lambs ? Because by your logic, the movie makers were putting the LGBT community under some bad light. And that interesting villain should have never existed.

There is nothing wrong with being gay. Being a villain or a good guy is irrelevant. The way you seem to look at it is "he is gay, which is even worse than being a villain and straight." To me, he is just a bad guy who happens to be (probably) gay. There is no correlation.

Now you can argue that the target audience will not view it my way. This is extremely offensive, as it implies that the majority of gamers who will be interested in this game are homophobic. I refuse to accept this. In fact, I demand an apology.

I am all for minority representation in video games. But I am also against excessive political correctness. A writer/artist should be free to create his characters with no restrictions regarding ethnicity or sexual orientation. If he wants to make his villain a black Asian gay, then so be it.

This is all under assumption that the villain is actually gay. We do not really know.

.

 

[Fbh]

I quite honestly don't see the problem.
If anyone is stupid enough to hate on LGBT because of the bad guy from Far Cry 4 then they would probably find some other stupid excuse to hate on them anyway.

Plus, if this is anything like Far Cry 3 he is going to be by far the most unique and interesting character of the game

 

[Jado]

Now you can argue that the target audience will not view it my way. This is extremely offensive, as it implies that the majority of gamers who will be interested in this game are homophobic. I refuse to accept this. In fact, I demand an apology.

I am all for minority representation in video games. But I am also against excessive political correctness. A writer/artist should be free to create his characters with no restrictions regarding ethnicity or sexual orientation. If he wants to make his villain a black Asian gay, then so be it.

LOL. I am so offended that you insulted the majority, pls apologize. A subset of gamers are homophobic. No one needs to say sorry to you (who are you??) for simply pointing that out.

The developers already have numerous restrictions. You think almost every hero being a white, hetero male in his late 20s/early 30s is a coincidence and a pure, artistic decision? And that it's in danger of being corrupted by the PC/minority brigade. These are multi-million dollar products with a number of stakeholders. Be realistic. The game you pop into your console has gotten through numerous revisions/compromises to make it to market. What you think is this clean, unfiltered experience straight from the designers' minds is clearly not. Getting uppity over the very little influence and scant few wishes of minorities to not be poorly depicted is so trivial in comparison to the huge checklists your AAA games go through before they get approved.

 

[Beefy]

It's okay, I appreciate the apology. Thank you.

I agree that there should be way more LGBT representation in games. But I don't think placing one in a position to be hated when there are so few LGBT characters in games in the first place is a good idea.

I see no problem with a LGBT person being the main bad guy. It just depends how that character is portrayed. As some one else said earlier in the thread we are all human and not all humans are good.

It's not the main villian being LGBT that is the problem. It is the people that deem LGBT people to be something bad. It is also the nut jobs that will twist the LGBT character being evil into something else.

 

[Kadayi]

When I first saw the Farcry 4 cover I instantly thought of the character Kakihara from Takashi Miike's film Ichi the Killer. Now I can't recall whether Kakihara was gay, straight or Bi (it's been a while since I saw the film and I'm not sure if it's even reflected upon in the narrative), but what I do recall is, that was a guy who dressed to impress. I'm not seeing anything different here.

 

[Beefy]

LOL. I am so offended that you insulted the majority, pls apologize. A subset of gamers are homophobic. No one needs to say sorry to you (who are you??) for simply pointing that out.

The developers already have numerous restrictions. You think almost every hero being a white, hetero male in his late 20s/early 30s is a coincidence and a pure, artistic decision? And that it's in danger of being corrupted by the PC/minority brigade. These are multi-million dollar products with a number of stakeholders. Be realistic. The game you pop into your console has gotten through numerous revisions/compromises to make it to market. What you think is this clean, unfiltered experience straight from the designers' minds is clearly not. Getting uppity over the very little influence and scant few wishes of minorities to not be poorly depicted is so trivial in comparison to the huge checklists your AAA games go through before they get approved.

A subset of the human race are homophobe, not just gamers.

 

[gogosox82]

Are you going to complain about the villain in the Silence of The Lambs ? Because by your logic, the movie makers were putting the LGBT community under some bad light. And that interesting villain should have never existed.

There is nothing wrong with being gay. Being a villain or a good guy is irrelevant. The way you seem to look at it is "he is gay, which is even worse than being a villain and straight." To me, he is just a bad guy who happens to be (probably) gay. There is no correlation.

Now you can argue that the target audience will not view it my way. This is extremely offensive, as it implies that the majority of gamers who will be interested in this game are homophobic. I refuse to accept this. In fact, I demand an apology.

I am all for minority representation in video games. But I am also against excessive political correctness. A writer/artist should be free to create his characters with no restrictions regarding ethnicity or sexual orientation. If he wants to make his villain a black Asian gay, then so be it.

This is all under assumption that the villain is actually gay. We do not really know.

What? Why should op apologize? Asking for better representation in video games is no different than Ubi market testing into the ground like they do with all their games. When Ubi market tests their games, they are trying to hit a demographic. All the op is asking for is that IF the villian is gay, that it not be portrayed as poorly as many of the minorities were portrayed in FC3. OP isn't asking them create a whole new game around what they personally like, they are asking them to be considerate of other peoples culture, hertiage, etc. Its honestly not that hard. And I, for one, am really tired of hearing the phrase "political correctness". Its basically been boiled down to someone says or does something I don't like = political correctness. That's not what political correctness is and what the phrase implies so please stop using it that way.

 

[Jado]

A subset of the human race are homophobe, not just gamers.

And racism and transphobia exist outside of video games. Does that mean we can't talk about examples specific to this hobby? This is the NeoGAF Gaming board.

 

[nynt9]

I know. And what I'm saying is that this is an example of how to set a game in a foreign locale, starring a white character, and not have it come across as a little... worrying.

So you're saying games that takes place in a foreign locale should contrive a reason to include white people as cannon fodder enemies, otherwise it becomes "worrying"?


Also, OP, your answer to a lot of questions regarding comparisons to other media is "idk haven't seen it". I don't think that's a valid answer to all of the questions. Maybe you should get a broader understanding of this issue in other media before tackling it.

 

[Kinyou]

Better safe than sorry.

I wonder what prematurely complaining about this game being racist accomplished.

 

[Beefy]

And racism and transphobia exist outside of video games. Does that mean we can't talk about examples specific to this hobby? This is the NeoGAF Gaming board.

I didn't say you couldn't did I? I was just stating it's a human trate rather then just gamers be cave men crap.

 

[Seraph_Nicholas]

My post wasn't directed at you, specifically. Apologies if it came off that way--you just indirectly highlighted the core reason a lot of people find the portrayal of homosexuals in video games problematic. Someone's sexuality should not be used as an indicator of how "warped" they are. Full stop. If your villains characterization relies on gay stereotypes and stoking the fires of latent homophobia in order to make them threatening, then you suck at villains.

Also, in regards to the bolded, I realize that I may be legitimately misinterpreting you here...but, just to be clear: you think homosexuality and transexualism are "fucked off" manifestations of normal sexuality and the self? Because if so...wow. Dude, quit while you're ahead.

No! Good god, they're the normal, healthy behavior I was talking about, as opposed to transsexualism via worship towards a sibling, or sadism taken to dangerous extreme.

 

[royalan]

Are you going to complain about the villain in the Silence of The Lambs ? Because by your logic, the movie makers were putting the LGBT community under some bad light. And that interesting villain should have never existed.

There is nothing wrong with being gay. Being a villain or a good guy is irrelevant. The way you seem to look at it is "he is gay, which is even worse than being a villain and straight." To me, he is just a bad guy who happens to be (probably) gay. There is no correlation.

Now you can argue that the target audience will not view it my way. This is extremely offensive, as it implies that the majority of gamers who will be interested in this game are homophobic. I refuse to accept this. In fact, I demand an apology.

I am all for minority representation in video games. But I am also against excessive political correctness. A writer/artist should be free to create his characters with no restrictions regarding ethnicity or sexual orientation. If he wants to make his villain a black Asian gay, then so be it.

This is all under assumption that the villain is actually gay. We do not really know.

Well, outside of his classic line, I don't think the villain is the most memorable part of Silence of the Lambs. Nor was he really that interesting.

But, anyway, nobody is really arguing that gay people (even flamboyantly gay people) CAN'T be villains. And if you look at the situation from a case-by-case basis, it's easy to argue the merits of of a villain's characterization. The problem arises when you zoom out, and notice that there's a pretty pronounced issue with how gay men are portrayed in geek media, specifically in regards to what their sexuality is used to represent.

 

[Raist]

The topic of sexuality in general rarely comes up in video games (and when it does, it often ends up in quite a few people freaking out).

Given that, you can't exactly make it "obvious" that this or that character is straight or gay. Unless you think they're identifiable in some way. Which would lead to all kinds of problems.

 

[Zoe]

When I first saw the Farcry 4 cover I instantly thought of the character Kakihara from Takashi Miike's film Ichi the Killer. Now I can't recall whether Kakihara was gay, straight or Bi (it's been a while since I saw the film and I'm not sure if it's even reflected upon in the narrative), but what I do recall is, that was a guy who dressed to impress. I'm not seeing anything different here.

That look really isn't uncommon in Asia, albeit maybe a tad dated with the bleached hair.

 

[block tower]

i rolled my eyes when i saw the protagonist lol. nothing like another white guy saves the indigenous people trope to make this game extra cliche .

 

[Fancy Clown]

i rolled my eyes when i saw the protagonist lol. nothing like another white guy saves the indigenous people trope to make this game extra cliche .

The protagonist isn't white...

 

[Bert]

Yes. But too many people on GAF will claim that any attention paid to gross bias issues is POLITICAL CORRECTNESS GONE MAD and that real equality means it's okay to shoot a gay dude in the head at the end of the game.

In what was is that not true?

Or should the next generation grow up thinking all gay guys are friendly and all women are tough as boots to balance out the last generation's prejudices?

You don't compensate for bias with bias, if anything it makes things worse by giving bigots a quantifiable talking point for their nonsense.

 

[Mooreberg]

The protagonist isn't white...

If I were a developer, I would not attempt to convey this sort of stuff during E3. Nobody is paying attention, and people flip out over non-facts that get retweeted by people who are not there.

 

[Kadayi]

That look really isn't uncommon in Asia, albeit maybe a tad dated with the bleached hair.

Well the film is over ten years old at this point in time. Like others have said though you can't judge a book by it's cover, and flamboyance/dressing sharp = gay is huge leap.

 

[Miles X]

As a gay guy, I hope he IS gay, he's fucking awesome and I think for most people it'll actually do good. Those that don't care about homosexuality won't bat an eyelid, but those that are homophobes and perhaps think gays are lame or whatever might think, "hey, this guy is gay but damn is he fucking awesome".

 

[block tower]

The protagonist isn't white...

sure looks white to me. certainly didnt look like the antagonist or the other asian characters. dude has pale skin, dark brown eyes, and brown/black hair. looks like generic white male protagonist alright.

 

[BrokenEchelon]

Isn't one being judgmental by assuming that he's gay because he's flamboyantly dressed? Not to mention further reinforcing the stereotype that flamboyant people must be gay?

If it's somehow spelled out in some of the footage that he is gay, forgive me, I haven't seen it. Only watched the one hang-gliding trailer with the elephant.

Either way, I don't understand why a minority isn't allowed to be flawed.

I find the "look at how they're just like us!" thing a lot more trite to be honest, but maybe in a weird way it's because I don't need to be convinced that people should have the same rights regardless of what sex they want to have sex with.

 

[Listonosh]

he honestly didn't come off as a gay to me, so if he is, that's actually fairly progressive.

edit: wasn't the far cry 3 writer gay? is it the same guy?

That's the same thing I thought when I watched the intro for the first time. I've heard that people think he's gay, but in no way did he come off that way to me. So I guess that's a good thing.

But like a majority here, I don't tend to get offended or uncomfortable with gay situations or characters in games.

 

[Zoe]

Well the film is over ten years old at this point in time. Like others have said though you can't judge a book by it's cover, and flamboyance/dressing sharp = gay is huge leap.

This plus everyone assuming the guy is white speaks more to me about how Asian men are portrayed in Western media.

 

[Leb]

sure looks white to me. certainly didnt look like the antagonist or the other asian characters. dude has pale skin, dark brown eyes, and brown/black hair. looks like generic white male protagonist alright.

Seriously, that guys looks white to you? He looks like a handsome young Nepalese (or thereabouts) man to me.