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[Peagles]

But at a certain point, LoK is just unfixable.

Yeh, I just hope when I'm in my 50s or something they might do a directors cut or something with a re-imagining without constraints. I know they're more than capable of pulling off a huge arc series so I just tell myself something went wrong that was out of their hands. It makes me feel better. Don't get me wrong I still love Korra as a whole, and I like a lot of things about it that other people don't, but I still think even one simple change to a long burning series could improve it greatly. Impossible now, because there's now 3 quite distinct books, but a girl can dream.

I mean I actually liked the ending of Book 1. There's a couple of issues I have with it but they aren't dealbreakers too me and I'm willing to be forgiving. I think Amon's reveal could work better if it was built up over three books better, and Korra getting her bending back could also feel more deserved and less deus ex machina if she spent a whole book suffering through her loss and overcoming her loss of bending.

 

[Jintor]

I just feel like Amon as a tragic waterbender backstory character simply doesn't work. None of it. It comes out of basically nowhere and has no greater ties to Korra's narrative arc as a whole.

 

[Admiral Woofington]

They Should've really kept up the anti bender plot. Heck they should be showing more of how the world is affected by spirits being in the world now. The show likes go introduce stuff and then barely mention them. If not completely ignore them.

 

[Fuu]

They Should've really kept up the anti bender plot. Heck they should be showing more of how the world is affected by spirits being in the world now. The show likes go introduce stuff and then barely mention them. If not completely ignore them.

Yeah, I thought it was weird how there were like zero spirits in Ba-Sing Se. Aside from Republic City at the start we only saw those spirits that hang out with Jinorra and Bumi, I think. I've been giving this a pass, but it's indeed bizarre that so far it was only a plot device to give people air bending. The premiere made it feel like dealing with the worlds being connected would be a big part of the season.

 

[Pai Pai Master]

I just feel like Amon as a tragic waterbender backstory character simply doesn't work. None of it. It comes out of basically nowhere and has no greater ties to Korra's narrative arc as a whole.

For better or worse, it DOES have ties to Korra because Korra is the avatar, and Amon's arc was the direct result of something that was done in her past life.

But it was lame for all of that to come out of a quick flashback episode and could have been built up much better if they had given it more time, like most things in Season 1/Season 2. And it's pretty flimsy to build a villain arc out of something that happened in between the two series.

 

[Desi]

Amon worked great in my eyes. I fear he didn't get the mult-season treatment because of the uncertainty of LoK as a whole it's a shame really as I think the terror of losing ones bending was worst then death for so many characters. Just look at Zaheer and his trope. Instead of death they denied them bending, same with Zuko's father.

 

[Infinite Justice]

For better or worse, it DOES have ties to Korra because Korra is the avatar, and Amon's arc was the direct result of something that was done in her past life.

it was a garbage tie that was pretty fucking unnecessary tbh plus it killed his entire role/premise.

i would have believed the generic "firebender fucked up his life" story than the crap we ultimately we got.

 

[m_shortpants]

it was a garbage tie that was pretty fucking unnecessary tbh plus it killed his entire role/premise.

i would have believed the generic "firebender fucked up his life" story than the crap we ultimately we got.

But then how would they have justified his ability to take bending away? Spirits? Or just that he figured out how to energy bend?

I guess both would have been better. Hell, the bloodbending thing might have even worked too if they had a better premise and backstory.

 

[Admiral Woofington]

If they were gonna make him a bad guy that came from the original cast then they should have given me a movie or 1 hour special of the gaang hanging out as adults.

 

[Infinite Justice]

But then how would they have justified his ability to take bending away? Spirits? Or just that he figured out how to energy bend?

or it could have been some technological/biological reason (they have fucking mechs already plus chi blockers) *shrug*

 

[Kai Dracon]

To me the biggest waste with Amon is that his claims about being granted power by the spirits would have flowed organically into all the spirit world plots later seasons were based on.

Like, Unalaq could have already been screwing with the spirit portal and sent some dark spirit to make an offer to Amon, using Amon as an agent of chaos to distract the Avatar and authorities. Heck it would have been a twist if Amon's fishy story about being a servant of the spirits turned out to be totally true.

Would have also explained how Amon could take away bending, as the spirits were able to give or take away abilities or curses to humans. Or his ability to paralyze people - it was really a dark spirit grabbing them.

 

[Mr-Joker]

They Should've really kept up the anti bender plot. Heck they should be showing more of how the world is affected by spirits being in the world now. The show likes go introduce stuff and then barely mention them. If not completely ignore them.

Agreed, so far all the season feel really disconnected with each other with one major plot being brought up and then brushed aside.

To me the biggest waste with Amon is that his claims about being granted power by the spirits would have flowed organically into all the spirit world plots later seasons were based on.

Like, Unalaq could have already been screwing with the spirit portal and sent some dark spirit to make an offer to Amon, using Amon as an agent of chaos to distract the Avatar and authorities. Heck it would have been a twist if Amon's fishy story about being a servant of the spirits turned out to be totally true.

Would have also explained how Amon could take away bending, as the spirits were able to give or take away abilities or curses to humans. Or his ability to paralyze people - it was really a dark spirit grabbing them.

Why are you not the writer for the show? I really like your idea.

 

[Admiral Woofington]

If I wrote for the show I'd make korra and Mako die in a horrible fashion. Then Bolin, Meelo and Asami all team up with Lin and Zuko.

 

[m_shortpants]

To me the biggest waste with Amon is that his claims about being granted power by the spirits would have flowed organically into all the spirit world plots later seasons were based on.

Like, Unalaq could have already been screwing with the spirit portal and sent some dark spirit to make an offer to Amon, using Amon as an agent of chaos to distract the Avatar and authorities. Heck it would have been a twist if Amon's fishy story about being a servant of the spirits turned out to be totally true.

Would have also explained how Amon could take away bending, as the spirits were able to give or take away abilities or curses to humans. Or his ability to paralyze people - it was really a dark spirit grabbing them.

I read that before too. How bad ass would it have been if Vaatu had monologued about "his agents failing him in the past", referring to Amon before Unalaq.

 

[Satch]

If I wrote for the show I'd make korra and Mako die in a horrible fashion. Then Bolin, Meelo and Asami all team up with Lin and Zuko.

? korra is great when shes not interacting with mako

shes been a pleasure so far this season

 

[zeemumu]

If I wrote for the show I'd make korra and Mako die in a horrible fashion. Then Bolin, Meelo and Asami all team up with Lin and Zuko.

Has any idea where you give the most popular secondary characters their own show (or movie) ever worked out? Because every time it's been attempted, people quickly realize that when those characters are forced to perform on their own, they don't work out as well.

 

[Admiral Woofington]

Has any idea where you give the most popular secondary characters their own show (or movie) ever worked out? Because every time it's been attempted, people quickly realize that when those characters are forced to perform on their own, they don't work out as well.

True. Though the short episodes in ATLA where everybody had their own time was great.

 

[Trey]

Korra is probably my favorite character in the show even though she's honestly annoyed me more this season than any other.

Mako can die though.

 

[Shaanyboi]

Korra is probably my favorite character in the show even though she's honestly annoyed me more thus season than any other.

Mako can die though.

This season? You mean you were cool with her being a fucking brat last season?

 

[Admiral Woofington]

Korra is better this season but she's hardly done much as well so I can't really say if the character is redeemed just yet. I love how she's judging Lin though.

 

[Dice//]

This season? You mean you were cool with her being a fucking brat last season?

Teen "celebrity" being bratty? Ya don't say.

Anyways. I'm not really getting or following how the "evil Sailor Scout" plot will go (they're kinda causing some chaos, acting out the definition of "villain"); but I do like the sort of nonchalant pacing so far ---- some of the best TLA episodes were more character-centric than about developing the plot.

 

[Satch]

calling korras behavior last season "bratty" is an understatement

 

[Admiral Woofington]

If this season ends with everybody getting their asses kicked by the evil four and korra having to save them then I will be so disappointed.

 

[Trey]

This season? You mean you were cool with her being a fucking brat last season?

Didn't rub me wrong the way like her bogarting her way into people's family business did.

 

[Shaanyboi]

Didn't rub me wrong the way like her bogarting her way into people's family business did.

...She threatened to killl a judge AT HER FATHER'S TRIAL. Then when her dad told her not to do anything rash, she immediately attacks the judge and puts his head inside Naga's mouth. She yells at her teacher, throws a tantrum when her cop boyfriend refuses to get involved in her super illegal plan to steal a fucking army from under the President's nose...

Season 2 Korra was a fucking monster.

Season 3 Korra calling Lin out for being a total bitch to her neice is hardly worse.

 

[Septimus Prime]

Man, I'm always so late to post, since I miss like a billion posts every weekend. Anyway, to touch upon some recent subjects:

Jinora - I doubt she's as good as Tenzin at airbending. I think she's just being an overzealous kid who has mastered everything her father has shown her, thus far, and thinks she knows everything--especially since she's being goaded by Kai, to whom she really does seem like a master. It's like the Ninja Turtles thinking they could take Splinter in a fight; whenever that comes up, Splinter shows them something new and floors their asses. I'm sure Tenzin could do the same with Jinora.

Airbending - It's just plain more powerful than the other bending arts. If you think of it as Digimon, it's like Angemon, whose first digivolution is already at Ultimate, skipping Champion entirely. We just haven't seen its Mega form yet, since there hasn't been anyone around to warp-digivolve it.

Toph - I really don't see the problem with her characterization. People's priorities change when they have children, and I doubt keeping her daughter out of prison is more important to her than being good at her job. One crazy thing for the theorists, though: Suyin's skin tone is darker than Lin's by quite a bit. It's almost as if she has Water Tribe heritage. Hmm...

 

[Trey]

...She threatened to killl a judge AT HER FATHER'S TRIAL. Then when her dad told her not to do anything rash, she immediately attacks the judge and puts his head inside Naga's mouth. She yells at her teacher, throws a tantrum when her cop boyfriend refuses to get involved in her super illegal plan to steal a fucking army from under the President's nose...

Season 2 Korra was a fucking monster.

Season 3 Korra calling Lin out for being a total bitch to her neice is hardly worse.

Not just calling out Lin for being a dick. Putting her in the situation. Not respecting her wishes to be left alone. Trying to play family therapist and forcing Opal on to Lin. Basically assuming she knows what's best for Lin when Lin obviously was uncomfortable with the entire situation. And none of it was necessary - Korra could have just left Lin alone and they would have brought Opal back to the Air Temple.

All your examples of Korra's thuggery are definitely rash and veritable dick moves. The key difference is that those other dick moves are Korra's business. Lin's family issues are absolutely not Korra's business, whatsoever.

 

[Peagles]

Conflict resolution, it's what she does ¯\_(&#12484_/¯...


I'm okay with Korra though. To me she makes sense given her upbringing.

 

[Veelk]

Not just calling out Lin for being a dick. Putting her in the situation. Not respecting her wishes to be left alone. Trying to play family therapist and forcing Opal on to Lin. Basically assuming she knows what's best for Lin when Lin obviously was uncomfortable with the entire situation. And none of it was necessary - Korra could have just left Lin alone and they would have brought Opal back to the Air Temple.

All your examples of Korra's thuggery are definitely rash and veritable dick moves. The key difference is that those other dick moves are Korra's business. Lin's family issues are absolutely not Korra's business, whatsoever.

So threatening to torture a judge because she doesn't like what she percieves as a fair trial is worse than encouraging Opal to talk to Lin just because 'it isn't her business'

You're either trolling or have some very screwed up morals.

 

[Bit-Bit]

Crazy theory time.

Sokka is Suyin's father.

He wasn't around because he died fighting the four villains that abducted Korra.

Yep.

This also makes Lin's and Tenzin's relationship perfectly acceptable because her father is someone else entirely.

 

[Trey]

You're either trolling or have some very screwed up morals.

It's a kids television show with people who fly and shoot fire out of their hands, and no one dies on screen. I would hope you think better of me as a member of this community than to question my morals because I didn't really care that Korra threatened a judge she obviously wasn't going to kill when Mako is threatening to mutilate thugs and the original gaang did all kinds of reckless shit.

It was emotionally tone deaf of Korra to encourage Opal to talk to Lin. Korra has been emotionally tone deaf and/or selfish before, but it was in the context of her personal issues. Korra had little practical value in trying to force Lin to engage her family, and no personal right nor ability to facilitate such an obviously painful meeting.

Which is why it rubbed me the wrong way more than loljudgeextortion.

 

[Mr-Joker]

Not just calling out Lin for being a dick. Putting her in the situation. Not respecting her wishes to be left alone. Trying to play family therapist and forcing Opal on to Lin. Basically assuming she knows what's best for Lin when Lin obviously was uncomfortable with the entire situation. And none of it was necessary - Korra could have just left Lin alone and they would have brought Opal back to the Air Temple.

All your examples of Korra's thuggery are definitely rash and veritable dick moves. The key difference is that those other dick moves are Korra's business. Lin's family issues are absolutely not Korra's business, whatsoever.

Korra is the Avatar, it's kinda her job to maintain peace and guess what it actually worked since the two sister ended getting along and Opal is free to leave the island.

Korra is actually doing some good for once.

 

[Septimus Prime]

Crazy theory time.

Sokka is Suyin's father.

He wasn't around because he died fighting the four villains that abducted Korra.

Yep.

This also makes Lin's and Tenzin's relationship perfectly acceptable because her father is someone else entirely.

Yep. Though I don't think he died in battle; he was just old.

I think Toph was with Lin's father but then had a chance to be with Sokka and took it. Sokka then boned out, and the other guy jammed, too, leaving Toph single.

 

[Shaanyboi]

Yep. Though I don't think he died in battle; he was just old.

I think Toph was with Lin's father but then had a chance to be with Sokka and took it. Sokka then boned out, and the other guy jammed, too, leaving Toph single.

That's a bit specific of a theory. It's also entirely possible Toph just doesn't like being tied to a relationship. Or people that she's been with kept leaving her because they couldn't deal with her. She's not exactly the easiest person to get along with.

 

[Veelk]

It's a kids television show with people who fly and shoot fire out of their hands, and no one dies on screen. I would hope you think better of me as a member of this community than to question my morals because I didn't really care that Korra threatened a judge she obviously wasn't going to kill when Mako is threatening to mutilate thugs and the original gaang did all kinds of reckless shit.

It was emotionally tone deaf of Korra to encourage Opal to talk to Lin. Korra has been emotionally tone deaf and/or selfish before, but it was in the context of her personal issues. Korra had little practical value in trying to force Lin to engage her family, and no personal right nor ability to facilitate such an obviously painful meeting.

Which is why it rubbed me the wrong way more than loljudgeextortion.

That doesn't really matter imo. At best, then your saying it's okay to threaten someone as long as your reasonably sure the other person won't really get hurt. The writers even said they were having Korra emulate Jack Bauer, and that's definitely something that kids shouldn't be into, and doubly so when the situation is unwarranted. This was bad, unnecessary, malicious violence. That it's a kid's show doesn't lessen that for me a bit. If a kid watched this and thinks it'd be okay (not that he necessarily does this, but even if they just think it) to set their dog on their classmates because they want to find out a secret their holding, that is bullshit.

And I always hate the 'it's not your business' card. It's just a way to excuse yourself from helping when you can make a difference by way of "it's not my problem". No, if something is happening right in front of you, your involved, it is your problem because people you care about are hurting. And Korra hardly went beyond her bounds here. She told Opal to talk to her. She didn't try to weasel what the fight was about, she was just trying to find a way to fix whatever was wrong. You have every right to talk to someone and encourage them to do what you think is the right thing, whatever the circumstance.

 

[Satch]

she didnt have to drag lin

that crossed the line for me

 

[Shaanyboi]

It's a kids television show with people who fly and shoot fire out of their hands, and no one dies on screen. I would hope you think better of me as a member of this community than to question my morals because I didn't really care that Korra threatened a judge she obviously wasn't going to kill when Mako is threatening to mutilate thugs and the original gaang did all kinds of reckless shit.

It was emotionally tone deaf of Korra to encourage Opal to talk to Lin. Korra has been emotionally tone deaf and/or selfish before, but it was in the context of her personal issues. Korra had little practical value in trying to force Lin to engage her family, and no personal right nor ability to facilitate such an obviously painful meeting.

Which is why it rubbed me the wrong way more than loljudgeextortion.

Nothing about it displayed it being painful for Lin until the end of episode 5 after Korra leaves. The entire time was just Lin being shitty. She was shitty to her sister on the airship, she was shitty to her niece, and she was shitty at dinner. Korra tries to get Opal, a sweet excited kid, to reach out to Lin one on one, and Lin tells her to fuck off. She wasn't trying to manipulate the situation or anything. She just wanted Opal to be able to establish a connection with her aunt. These aren't strangers, these are her friends.

The Avatar's job is to try and strive for peace, including among her friends and allies. Suyin was easily the more reasonable one. Nothing about Lin's attitude was reasonable or "obviously painful". She just growls, shrugs, and makes snide off-hand remarks under her breath. She's the one starting shit. If anyone should've been trying to be a mediator in this situation, it's Korra... well... officially.

 

[LAUGHTREY]

Crazy theory time.

Sokka is Suyin's father.

He wasn't around because he died fighting the four villains that abducted Korra.

Yep.

This also makes Lin's and Tenzin's relationship perfectly acceptable because her father is someone else entirely.

That still wouldn't work.

They don't know who their fathers are, but Sokka only died 17~ years ago?

Suyin is at LEAST in her 40s. He would've been around when she was a little shit.


At this point, they're going to go the dumb route and just make them be offspring of Toph + random dudes. Which is weird that they made them half-sisters.

It's not gonna be someone from AtLA.

 

[Trey]

That doesn't really matter imo. At best, then your saying it's okay to threaten someone as long as your reasonably sure the other person won't really get hurt. The writers even said they were having Korra emulate Jack Bauer, and that's definitely something that kids shouldn't be into, and doubly so when the situation is unwarranted. This was bad, unnecessary, malicious violence. That it's a kid's show doesn't lessen that for me a bit. If a kid watched this and decided it'd be okay to set their dog on their classmates up because they want to find out a secret their holding, that is bullshit.

I'm explicitly saying that in my watching of the show that I found Korra's lack of tact and blatant disregard of Lin's personal autonomy more bothersome than some throwaway scene of Korra gooning it up. I'm not making any broad proclamation on the moral relativity of the two events. I'm not extracting each events from the source material and analyzing them in a vacuum. In the context of the show, and the tone it confers, one event was simply more bothersome.

And I always hate the 'it's not your business' card. It's just a way to excuse yourself from helping something you could potentially help by way of "it's not my problem". No, if something is happening right in front of you, your involved, it is your problem because people you care about are hurting. And Korra hardly went beyond her bounds here. She told Opal to talk to her. She didn't try to weasel what the fight was about, she was just trying to find a way to fix whatever was wrong. You have every right to talk to someone and encourage them to do what you think is the right thing, whatever the circumstance.

I disagree with this stance. There's absolutely such a thing as minding your own business. There's lines that are drawn. Of course you want to help people, but you also want to respect the wishes and decisions others make. And again, there was little practical value in forcing that confrontation. I could understand it if it was crucial that Lin faced her problems with Suyin. If, for example, the situation called for Opal or Suyin to directly interact with Lin. But that wasn't the case, and Lin wanted to be left alone, and Korra knew this, yet she still insisted on pushing Opal on to her.

Korra didn't have the information, the reasoning, nor the necessity to subvert Lin's personal choices.

Nothing about it displayed it being painful for Lin until the end of episode 5 after Korra leaves. The entire time was just Lin being shitty. She was shitty to her sister on the airship, she was shitty to her niece, and she was shitty at dinner. Korra tries to get Opal, a sweet excited kid, to reach out to Lin one on one, and Lin tells her to fuck off. She wasn't trying to manipulate the situation or anything. She just wanted Opal to be able to establish a connection with her aunt. These aren't strangers, these are her friends.

I think never mentioning your sister, refusing to meet her, and not being sociable/being outright hostile is showing obvious pain and a lack of desire in being amicable. Lin would have been perfectly satisfied with being left alone - in fact, that's exactly what she wanted to do. Korra had no stake in these matters, even as the Avatar, as far as the knowledge she had goes. They could have collected Opal and left for the Air Temple without the two ever saying a word to each other. Lin accepting Opal was never a condition for recruiting her - if it was it would have made more sense for Korra to try and bridge the gap. And at the very least, she could have spoken with Lin personally instead of assuming she would be comfortable with seeing her niece.

 

[Admiral Woofington]

I'm sure it's just that toph had two lovers/husbands. She always seemed like one who wanted to roam free even with social conventions.

Now as to how she ended up a cop I still argue that's extremely weird unless she had no choice to provide for her family.

 

[Veelk]

I disagree with this stance. There's absolutely such a thing as minding your own business. There's lines that are drawn. Of course you want to help people, but you also want to respect the wishes and decisions others make. And again, there was little practical value in forcing that confrontation. I could understand it if it was crucial that Lin faced her problems with Suyin. If, for example, the situation called for Opal or Suyin to directly interact with Lin. But that wasn't the case, and Lin wanted to be left alone, and Korra knew this, yet she still insisted on pushing Opal on to her.

Korra didn't have the information, the reasoning, nor the necessity to subvert Lin's personal choices.

Oh, I don't disagree that there is a thing as respecting other's choices, but Korra did not cross any lines by encouraging Lin to talk. If you really want to someone to blame, it's Opal. There is absolutely no penalty for giving your opinion on any matter, which is all that Korra did, but if the actual confrontation is what this is all about, then it's Opal that actually did the thing, so if you're going to point a gun at someone, it's Opal that got involved in whats not any of her business. I think it is her business and Korra's as both of these people are her friends, but even if you want to go down that road, Korra isn't the culprit here.

And no one knows what a confrontation would bring. It was perfectly possible that a forced confrontation with the sweet girl that just wants to know her aunt is exactly what Lin needed, since she was an innocent in this that still liked her despite all she did. The idea was a good one and Lin's desire for privacy (which does not entitle her to never ever interacting with someone who just wants a bit of their time) was not violated just because Opal came in and said hi.

No, Korra did not do anything wrong here. I think we'll have to agree to disagree, but I'm not convinced by any of this.

I think never mentioning your sister, refusing to meet her, and not being sociable/being outright hostile is showing obvious pain and a lack of desire in being amicable. Lin would have been perfectly satisfied with being left alone - in fact, that's exactly what she wanted to do. Korra had no stake in these matters, even as the Avatar, as far as the knowledge she had goes. They could have collected Opal and left for the Air Temple without the two ever saying a word to each other. Lin accepting Opal was never a condition for recruiting her - if it was it would have made more sense for Korra to try and bridge the gap. And at the very least, she could have spoken with Lin personally instead of assuming she would be comfortable with seeing her niece.

While the avatar's role is often a political one, they can act as personal counselors. They are servants of humanity, and that means ALL of humanity, whether it's a large scale political conflict or just helping mend a family bond. Despite what Tenzin said, it IS the avatar's job to solve the problems that people face in every day life.

 

[Infinite Justice]

While the avatar's role is often a political one, they can act as personal counselors. They are servants of humanity, and that means ALL of humanity, whether it's a large scale political conflict or just helping mend a family bond. Despite what Tenzin said, it IS the avatar's job to solve the problems that people face in every day life.

now i wonder how he felt when Aang basically lied to those two tribes so they can be peaceful with each other again.

If going by the "moral" scale that was worse that what Korra did .

 

[DedValve]

I just feel like Amon as a tragic waterbender backstory character simply doesn't work. None of it. It comes out of basically nowhere and has no greater ties to Korra's narrative arc as a whole.

Thats what it should have been from the start. Amon was such a great idea to be ruined like that.

Man if only Nick had allowed a full 24 episode show. That probably wouldn't have fixed season 2....probably.

 

[LAUGHTREY]

Thats what it should have been from the start. Amon was such a great idea to be ruined like that.

Man if only Nick had allowed a full 24 episode show. That probably wouldn't have fixed season 2....probably.

This is the first season produced where they aren't on the bubble and know for a fact they will get more than 13 episodes...

And there's a markedly huge increase in quality. I don't think it's a coincidence, some stories just can't be told that fast.

 

[Trey]

Oh, I don't disagree that there is a thing as respecting other's choices, but Korra did not cross any lines by encouraging Lin to talk. If you really want to someone to blame, it's Opal. There is absolutely no penalty for giving your opinion on any matter, which is all that Korra did, but if the actual confrontation is what this is all about, then it's Opal that actually did the thing, so if you're going to point a gun at someone, it's Opal that got involved in whats not any of her business. I think it is her business and Korra's as both of these people are her friends, but even if you want to go down that road, Korra isn't the culprit here.

And no one knows what a confrontation would bring. It was perfectly possible that a forced confrontation with the sweet girl that just wants to know her aunt is exactly what Lin needed, since she was an innocent in this that still liked her despite all she did. The idea was a good one and Lin's desire for privacy (which does not entitle her to never ever interacting with someone who just wants a bit of their time) was not violated just because Opal came in and said hi.

No, Korra did not do anything wrong here. I think we'll have to agree to disagree, but I'm not convinced by any of this.

While the avatar's role is often a political one, they can act as personal counselors. They are servants of humanity, and that means ALL of humanity, whether it's a large scale political conflict or just helping mend a family bond. Despite what Tenzin said, it IS the avatar's job to solve the problems that people face in every day life.

It is Opal's business as she is a subject party to Lin's issues. Korra is a third party despite being acquainted. And I agree the Avatar can and should be a personal counselor, but that requires tact - none of which is displayed. She doesn't attempt to understand why Lin is so withdrawn from her family before first bringing Suyin to Lin, then Opal. Which is weird since she was complicit with Lin's desires of discretion before finding out she had family in Zaofu.

If Korra was really going to go down that route, she should have been more conciliatory than she was. It's these kinds of situations where Korra's forceful disposition is most bothersome to me because there's more subtlety to deep rooted family issues and concepts of friendships and their barriers/boundaries than threatening people who don't do what Korra wants.

now i wonder how he felt when Aang basically lied to those two tribes so they can be peaceful with each other again.

If going by the "moral" scale that was worse that what Korra did .

I actually thought about when Aang intercepted Bato's letter and hid it so Katara and Sokka wouldn't think to pursue their father. Complete dick move, born out of selfishness and fear. And Aang learned from it, growing as a person.

 

[Veelk]

It is Opal's business as she is a subject party to Lin's issues. Korra is a third party despite being acquainted. And I agree the Avatar can and should be a personal counselor, but that requires tact - none of which is displayed. She doesn't attempt to understand why Lin is so withdrawn from her family before first bringing Suyin to Lin, then Opal. Which is weird since she was complicit with Lin's desires of discretion before finding out she had family in Zaofu.

If Korra was really going to go down that route, she should have been more conciliatory than she was. It's these kinds of situations where Korra's forceful disposition is most bothersome to me because there's more subtlety to deep rooted family issues and concepts of friendships and their barriers/boundaries than threatening people who don't do what Korra wants.

That's because Suyin forced the issue by finding out who is on the ship and going there herself, not because Korra 'allowed' it.

Anyway, nope. The fight is specifically between Suyin and Lin. Everyone else is third party. Opal is collateral, but so is Korra, since Lin is letting her anger affect how she interacts with them as well (She did break Naga's ball). Opal was pretty much completely avoided until she directly confronted Lin. But if it IS her business, then Korra still didn't do anything wrong. Again, all she did was advise Opal. She didn't twist her arm to get there. Opal is the one who did the actual confrontation, so whether it is 'her business' or not. Unless your arguing that other people don't even have the right to speak their opinion on issues, Korra did nothing wrong.

But like I said, this is all bullshit. Lin is her friend, despite how much of a grouch she is. That makes it Korra's business to help solve any problems she can, if she chooses to. If she choose to lock the two sisters in a room until they resolved the issue, maybe you'd have a point, but all she did was go to Opal and said "Hey, you should talk, maybe you can work out what your mom can't." This is all she did. It's absurd to consider this an invasion of privacy. This isn't tactless, this isn't a threat, this isn't out of line in any conceivable way I can think of. That is being conciliatory. This is as respectful a contribution to help work towards a solution between the two sisters as I can think of.

 

[Infinite Justice]

I actually thought about when Aang intercepted Bato's letter and hid it so Katara and Sokka wouldn't think to pursue their father. Complete dick move, born out of selfishness and fear. And Aang learned from it, growing as a person.

That's not what i was referencing.

I was talking the about what happened in the Great Divide.

She didn't twist her arm to get there.

i actually expected this tbh lol

 

[Satch]

If Korra was really going to go down that route, she should have been more conciliatory than she was. It's these kinds of situations where Korra's forceful disposition is most bothersome to me because there's more subtlety to deep rooted family issues and concepts of friendships and their barriers/boundaries than threatening people who don't do what Korra wants.

i actually really agree with this part a whole lot. very thoughtless of her (but then again its korra)

 

[Lord_Byron28]

Does anyone else find it suspicious that Varrick is skulking around and just developed a machine that could destroy the entire city and the people if applied on a larger scale? Im guessing there will be a battle between the earth queen and the metal city. Varrick is infiltrating and spying for the queen.

 

[Hamlet]

Ratings are slightly up this week
Should remain steady now that there are no more big breaks between the episodes

306 - 1.282 million; .4 adults 18-49 rating

307 - 1.334 million; .4 adults 18-49 rating

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