Digital Foundry: Destiny Beta XB1 analysis and PS4 comparison
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Destiny looks good, but it doesn't look spectacular. Xbone is probably the target platform. The added 10% will probably lower the amount of optimisation necessary to hit 1080/30. As for PS4, the game probably hits around that target with less effort.
Microsoft says no.
This is correct. However I don't think there is a huge problem with certain games having parity. If a developer has a goal and the XB1 is powerful enough to meet it then there is no reason it can't be the same as the PS4 version. Of course if both were pushed to their limits the PS4 would look better but this doesn't always have to be the case, especially this early on in the generation.
Tom Penny is just trolling to start some flame wars here.
And as you can see on the amount of replies, it worked.
And yes, sounds like "parity".
Thanks, Bungie.
DaleinCalgary
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When the final version on the Xbox comes out I'm expecting the exact same visuals. Bungie isn't making any visual stunner as a game and 30 FPS should be a cakewalk for both versions.
ElRenoRaven
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The stutter going from the Steppes and Mothyards areas, is due to those being loading zones. I know it was insanely bad in an earlier build. I'm talking freeze and crash if you didn't stop to let it load when hitting those zones. Alpha and now beta I don't even notice it. So yea. That's what that is. There is always going to be a very very minor stutter there because that's just how Bungie handles the loading of areas. Anyone who played Halo knows all about that. Most of their Halo games were very good with it. The only one that had a small issue was Reach. It would stutter really good at some loading zones.
as before it wasn't. It's just that they have to work a bit harder on it to make that happen.
as before it wasn't. It's just that they have to work a bit harder on it to make that happen.
fastford58
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Still a cross gen game, so no surprises here.
I'll have to see them in action. I remember reading the discussions of how killzone and second son killed anything Xbox had graphically but after playing both not to long ago for me they don't touch ryse.
travisbickle
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I think this will be a minority case, look at Tomb Raider, a last gen upgrade, and that had differences between versions.
Destiny is from a very good developer who got the balance right so that it runs well on both, most developers will do some crazy shit that will run well on high end PC, ok on PS4, and respectably with cutbacks on xb1.
The Elite
BOSS
... and the eternal debate rages on.
People are either in one camp or the other. It will really be interesting to see if more games allow you to turn off effects in favour of a higher res and vice versa.
Just give the option to the people.
This.
Probably more like 1080p/45. Maybe if Sony overclocks the PS4's GPU and CPU.
hire this guy bungie, he knows stuff
condompickle
Banned
Game looks fine in 900p. If it runs shitty at 1080p I'm done with bungie.
Bungie apparently unaware of what they can do with their own game, says Neogaffer.
Guardian Monkey
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Wait Wut? Shouldn't either of these consoles do 1080p at 30fps ok? I'm wondering if one of these console makers waited a year to have an affordable 1080p 60fps machine, if it would have been better off in the long run this gen.
Sparrowhawk
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But then it wouldn't be filmic.
ElRenoRaven
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It's also never going to happen with a cross platform game either. I've never seen a developer who does a cross platform game who maxes either console out. It's just not wise resource wise and financially. That's business. I think a lot of people forget that games are that. A business. They're going to set a bar of what they want to accomplish and get that out of the game on both consoles. You have to figure the PS4 is hitting that bar easier but the Xbone is capable of hitting it too now where
Bananajama
Banned
On the upside. It won't tax the PS4 as much and thuslyincrease useful life
Or 1080p/30 with better AA, and they are not using it, full parity with XBO version it's really strange...
UFC on PS4 has even resolution parity with XBO (900p) but PS4 has 4x MSAA instead of 2x MSAA.
overdrivex
Banned
Funny how some people here we're talking about how "terrible" the beta looked on the xbox one compared to ps4
Summer Haze
Banned
I'm still a little bummed that they didn't decide to run the MP at 60fps. I know that would have created some disparity between the MP and the other portions of the game...but I just like 60fps in competitive modes, especially first person shooters.
What a strawman
Neogaffer: Battlefield 4 could run better. It's a broken mess!
Papercuts: D.I.C.E apparently unaware of what they can do with their own game, says Neogaffer.
hooijdonk17
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To be fair, it's still a better representation of their real states of power than saying they are on parity.
Caayn
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Console wars™
Huh? Bungie only got the Xbox One version to reach 1080p thanks to the July update. PS4 was already running on 1080p at that time. Destiny was completed graphics wise at that point in time. They didn't gimp the PS4 version, they bumped the Xbox One version thanks to an unexpected power increase. Meaning that the Xbox One suddenly could also handle Destiny how Bungie wanted it to look.
No dev is going to create new assets just because one platform can suddenly run the game as they original wanted it.
EA are special though.
EA themselves constantly admitted the problems.
reptilescorpio
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I really have to assume it's just an unfinished/untested effect due to time really, I'd expect it to be in for the final release.
For those who replied to me.
Bungie clearly stated that they want the game to be similar on all platforms.
If Xbone can do 1080p/30 that means PS4 can do much better.
So giving the 40% power gap (not including the better RAM setup), I can easily assume that PS4 would have handled 1080p/60 with ease.
Look at TR, and MGSGZ
Bungie clearly stated that they want the game to be similar on all platforms.
If Xbone can do 1080p/30 that means PS4 can do much better.
So giving the 40% power gap (not including the better RAM setup), I can easily assume that PS4 would have handled 1080p/60 with ease.
Look at TR, and MGSGZ
Dragonborn
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Mind pointing me to someone who actually thinks that? Trying to downplay the obvious hardware differences with such an extreme example (that no one actually believes) is crazy man.
The fact is, the PS4 is stronger, and not in some insignificant matter. Being at full parity means that Bungie held back the PS4 version to maintain the parity. Or perhaps it means something else, but what could that be? The only way to achieve parity is by gimping one for the lowest common denominator. It's not a conspiracy theory.
who has said this?
With this logic, we wouldn't have advanced beyond anything but rudimentary graphics.
In order for some people's perceptions to have been observed on a forum, I'd assume there would be actual posts stating something similar to what you're saying here. I haven't seen them.
It was gimped from the beginning because it also has to accommodate PS3/Xbox 360.
Chobel
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What people? No one said that.
overdrivex
Banned
Here as in gaf, go to the beta thread or the 360/one impression thread
Oppo
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Dragonborn
Member
That's irrelevant. Trust me, if the PS4/XB1 version was forced to run at last gen resolution with last gen effects, there'd be just as much upset.
Yes, being on last gen inherently means the game is held back, but that doesn't mean they couldn't have use the PS4's extra power to make it better. With that said, this is still only the Beta, so waiting for the full release before making an final assumptions would be best. One things for sure, I won't be supporting parity
robertsan21
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Isn't it official that bungie aimed for parity?
Nothing special about them.
And there are much more examples like this.
You don't have to be a dev in a AAA studio, to know stuff.
Well, after the latest IGN / Ryan "Fanboy" McCaffrey interview, it is, somehow.
Summer Haze
Banned
There's absolutely nothing wrong with wanting the more powerful console, that you made the choice to buy over the other, display better graphics. Most devs aren't aiming for parity this gen, I don't think Bungie should either. People make their choices of console (ones that can only afford one/only want one), devs should get the most out of each console, not "gimp" any version for the sake of parity.
It's an awesome game, and the parity decision isn't going to put me off buying it and enjoying it, that would be pretty petty, but I'm glad parity isn't the norm this gen. Apart from Destiny and the upcoming Battlefield: Hardline, I can't think of any other games that were made with parity in mind.
