The Lamonster
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Perfecto. Didn't even know a power line network adapter existed. Thanks dudes!
"I Need a New PC!" 2014 Part 2. Read OP, your 2500K will run Witcher 3. MX100s! 970!
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xBladeM6x
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It is awesome. I've used it for almost a year now, and it's one of the best computer cleaning tools I've used for mine, and others I do it for. I wouldn't put it point blank into the exhaust of the GPU, or something like that. Also, when using it, if you're cleaning fans like 120mm case fans / CPU cooler fans, that you hold them in place while doing it. You run this risk of fucking them up if you make them spin too fast, since this thing is really powerful. Additionally, it is very loud since it is such a beast. As far as electrostatic discharge is concerned, I haven't had an issue, and I haven't read about anyone having an issue with this particular blower, so I wouldn't worry about it too much.
PrettyhateM
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This is my current build:
CPU
Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core
CPU Cooler
Corsair H60 74.4 CFM Liquid
Motherboard
Asus P8Z77-V LK ATX LGA1155
Memory
Corsair Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1600
Storage
Samsung 840 Pro Series 512GB 2.5" SSD
Samsung 840 Pro Series 512GB 2.5" SSD
Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM
Video Card
Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB
Case
Antec P280 ATX Mid Tower
Power Supply
Corsair 750W
I am using a 1440p monitor, and trying to achieve 60fps on the majority of games I play. I feel like my card might be getting pretty long in the tooth with some of the games. Sometimes I will just try to play the games in 1080p to get the framerate up.
I was thinking of putting down maybe 500 bucks or less on a upgrade, probably going towards a Nvidia card because the Shield has been perking my interest.
Am I living in a false reality where I think my 7950 isnt cutting it anymore? Would it be a waste to upgrade right now? Or would it be more wise to upgrade my CPU?
CPU
Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core
CPU Cooler
Corsair H60 74.4 CFM Liquid
Motherboard
Asus P8Z77-V LK ATX LGA1155
Memory
Corsair Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1600
Storage
Samsung 840 Pro Series 512GB 2.5" SSD
Samsung 840 Pro Series 512GB 2.5" SSD
Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM
Video Card
Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB
Case
Antec P280 ATX Mid Tower
Power Supply
Corsair 750W
I am using a 1440p monitor, and trying to achieve 60fps on the majority of games I play. I feel like my card might be getting pretty long in the tooth with some of the games. Sometimes I will just try to play the games in 1080p to get the framerate up.
I was thinking of putting down maybe 500 bucks or less on a upgrade, probably going towards a Nvidia card because the Shield has been perking my interest.
Am I living in a false reality where I think my 7950 isnt cutting it anymore? Would it be a waste to upgrade right now? Or would it be more wise to upgrade my CPU?
You would get a good boost out of a 780. Flip it in a couple months when the 800s are released, and you should only be $150-200 out of pocket for an 880.
If that doesn't seem worth it, I'd probably hold out just a bit longer, or consider a used 290 to hold you over.
Sounds good enough, It was dissapointing finding so much dust inside after only 1 month of use on a case with dust filters (corsair 350d), but you've saved me a lot of trouble, thanks man.
CreepingFear
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I just built my new PC yesterday, and things didn't go quite as smoothly as I had hoped.
The build:
CPU: Intel 4790k
Mobo: Gigabyte Z97X-UD3H
GPU: EVGA NVidia 780 Ti
RAM: G.Skill Sniper DDR3 2400 (1.65v)
PSU: CM 750V
Storage:
....256GB SSD Samsung 840 Pro
....512GB SSD Crucial MX100
....2TB HDD WD Black
OS: Windows 8.1 Pro
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro (w/ Window)
CPU Heatsink: CM Hyper 212 EVO.
Optical drive: Some ASUS DVD drive.
Issues I had:
1) The BIOS version that came with the motherboard, F5, did NOT play nicely with the 4790k. With everything on Auto, it set the Vcore voltage to 1.35v. Ridiculously high! I flashed the BIOS to the latest version, F7, and the Vcore is now a much more appropriate 1.175v on auto.
2) Setting up the BIOS to work properly with Windows 8 (+Secure boot) felt more complicated than it needed to be. Setting the OS mode to Windows 8 was simple enough, and that's all that was necessary to get Windows 8 installed in UEFI mode instead of legacy mode. To get secure boot working though, I needed to disable CSM, and change the SecureBoot settings from Standard to Custom, then go into the key manager and install the default keys. Standard simply didn't work, don't know why.
3) Apparently this bios has a silly bug: If you switch to classic mode, then exit without saving, you can't boot into windows without resetting! This scared me the first time it happened, thought I messed up my installation somehow. (Learned about this here.)
Issue I'm currently having (and need some assistance with):
My fans are too loud at idle. How are you supposed to wire your fans with the fan hub that comes with the Enthoo Pro? Right now, I have two things that use the 4th PWM pin: The fan hub, and the CPU fan. The mobo only has a single PWM header: CPU_FAN. And the fan hub only has 3 pin outputs. I just connected the CPU fan to the hub, with the 4th pin not connected to anything. Is that correct? I've set the CPU_FAN header to the "Silent" setting in the BIOS. At idle, and at around 30C temps, my CPU fan is spinning at ~1450 RPM according to HWInfo. Its minimum is ~600. This seems too high. Might I have to get a proper fan hub with PWM outputs?
Edit: Did some more research, unsurprisingly the issue is indeed that I need to connect my 4 pin PWM fan to a 4 pin header, or else you can't control its speed. I assumed that it would simply fall back to the same speed control method that the 3 pin fans use, but that doesn't seem to be the case. Buying a PWM splitter to solve this, hope that's enough.
Other remarks:
Will try to overclock after I fix the fans. Can only hope that I got a good CPU. I'm going to stress test the stock clocks before that though, since I'm worried I might not have much headroom.
The build:
CPU: Intel 4790k
Mobo: Gigabyte Z97X-UD3H
GPU: EVGA NVidia 780 Ti
RAM: G.Skill Sniper DDR3 2400 (1.65v)
PSU: CM 750V
Storage:
....256GB SSD Samsung 840 Pro
....512GB SSD Crucial MX100
....2TB HDD WD Black
OS: Windows 8.1 Pro
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro (w/ Window)
CPU Heatsink: CM Hyper 212 EVO.
Optical drive: Some ASUS DVD drive.
Issues I had:
1) The BIOS version that came with the motherboard, F5, did NOT play nicely with the 4790k. With everything on Auto, it set the Vcore voltage to 1.35v. Ridiculously high! I flashed the BIOS to the latest version, F7, and the Vcore is now a much more appropriate 1.175v on auto.
2) Setting up the BIOS to work properly with Windows 8 (+Secure boot) felt more complicated than it needed to be. Setting the OS mode to Windows 8 was simple enough, and that's all that was necessary to get Windows 8 installed in UEFI mode instead of legacy mode. To get secure boot working though, I needed to disable CSM, and change the SecureBoot settings from Standard to Custom, then go into the key manager and install the default keys. Standard simply didn't work, don't know why.
3) Apparently this bios has a silly bug: If you switch to classic mode, then exit without saving, you can't boot into windows without resetting! This scared me the first time it happened, thought I messed up my installation somehow. (Learned about this here.)
Issue I'm currently having (and need some assistance with):
My fans are too loud at idle. How are you supposed to wire your fans with the fan hub that comes with the Enthoo Pro? Right now, I have two things that use the 4th PWM pin: The fan hub, and the CPU fan. The mobo only has a single PWM header: CPU_FAN. And the fan hub only has 3 pin outputs. I just connected the CPU fan to the hub, with the 4th pin not connected to anything. Is that correct? I've set the CPU_FAN header to the "Silent" setting in the BIOS. At idle, and at around 30C temps, my CPU fan is spinning at ~1450 RPM according to HWInfo. Its minimum is ~600. This seems too high. Might I have to get a proper fan hub with PWM outputs?
Edit: Did some more research, unsurprisingly the issue is indeed that I need to connect my 4 pin PWM fan to a 4 pin header, or else you can't control its speed. I assumed that it would simply fall back to the same speed control method that the 3 pin fans use, but that doesn't seem to be the case. Buying a PWM splitter to solve this, hope that's enough.
Other remarks:
Will try to overclock after I fix the fans. Can only hope that I got a good CPU. I'm going to stress test the stock clocks before that though, since I'm worried I might not have much headroom.
this is probably good advice, although the poster above is right too - could grab a 780/780ti and sell it when the 800 series comes out soon.
i have a 4770k with a 780ti, and i can't even get 60fps at 1440p in many games with maxed settings - so i already feel long in the tooth myself :/
[although, i suppose that's with Crysis 3 and Titanfall, one which is just unrealistic to expect 60fps @ 1440p, and the other which is just horribly unoptimized]
Drake
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Ugh tell me about about it. Fucking Gigabyte, man. Before flashing the BIOS it was volting my 4790k at 1.46v. Absolutely insane. The board has been fine now, but the fact that it required a flash is enough or me not to recommend the board to others. Lucky it has dual bios, so if the flash goes bad the board isn't a brick.
I'm curious as you are the first person I've come across with the same board, CPU and cooler as me. What kind of temps are you getting in games? I turned off turbo boost for the time being. I usually idle in the mid 30's and games don't usually go above the low 60's for me.
Wow EXACT problem I had when I tried to pair that same mobo with an i5-4690K. The one and only thing I did not try was updating BIOS, which probably would have resolved the issue. Be nice if these mobos worked with the new K-series chips out of the box.
michaelius
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It's normal for bioses older than cpus.
I had to update bios on Z97 Gaming 7 before mainboard allowed me to overclock Pentium G3258
Drama Zed Nod
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Anyone?
hey guys quick question, i have a laptop with hdmi output and a monitor with only vga. can i use this cable?
http://www.rakuten.com/prod/vga-to-hdmi-cable-m-m-6-black/212694386.html
it has warnings at the link but i think they apply if ur going vga to hdmi, im hdmi to vga
http://www.rakuten.com/prod/vga-to-hdmi-cable-m-m-6-black/212694386.html
it has warnings at the link but i think they apply if ur going vga to hdmi, im hdmi to vga
CurlySaysX
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I had this error once after updating my bios.
I think it has to do with intel requiring the fan to be running at a minimum of 600rpm at startup.
The problem can be caused if you have the CPU fan plugged into the wrong port on the motherboard, or if you have an aftermarket cpu cooler which spins less than the stock intel one.
There should be an option in the bios which lets you lower the threshold of the fan speed at start up. If you are sure that everything is fine with the fan go ahead and set it to 300 or maybe even disable the warning.
Haven't tried many games quite yet on this machine quite yet.
So far, with Saints Row IV and Dota 2, I'm averaging a bit under 50C. I don't know if those are very demanding on the CPU though.
As noted above, the minimum fan speed before the warning appears is ridiculously high because it is setup for the stock fan cooler, which runs at super high RPM. Just disable the warning in BIOS.
PrettyhateM
Neo Member
Yeah was considering a 290x at one point.... I dont know though, I sorta feel like I am missing out by not running a Nvidia card....
That being said, I am guessing I dont have to worry about the cpu (i5-3570K) for a while?
innervision961
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Hey guys, new build is done! Gleaned a lot of advice from this thread, so thanks for all the help. Here are my specs:
Asus Maximus IV Hero
Intel i7 4770k
Noctua DH14 ( love this freaking cooler, man!)
16gb DDR3
Gigabyte Windforce 780
I have a question, need some assistance really. First, how can I get the most out of my build? Is overclocking safe, easy, necessary? I do a lot of 3ds max, photoshop and zbrush.
Also, I have a 120GB SSD and a 1TB harddrive. I goofed and installed a ton of crap on the SSD and now I'm running out of space fast (the ssd has the windows install on it). How, or I guess, can I move or install programs onto the D:/ drive and run them like normal? I have tried but it didn't seem to work. (tried to install 3ds max to that drive and wasn't successful)...
Thanks for all the help guys.
Asus Maximus IV Hero
Intel i7 4770k
Noctua DH14 ( love this freaking cooler, man!)
16gb DDR3
Gigabyte Windforce 780
I have a question, need some assistance really. First, how can I get the most out of my build? Is overclocking safe, easy, necessary? I do a lot of 3ds max, photoshop and zbrush.
Also, I have a 120GB SSD and a 1TB harddrive. I goofed and installed a ton of crap on the SSD and now I'm running out of space fast (the ssd has the windows install on it). How, or I guess, can I move or install programs onto the D:/ drive and run them like normal? I have tried but it didn't seem to work. (tried to install 3ds max to that drive and wasn't successful)...
Thanks for all the help guys.
lostsupper
Banned
You better be overclocking with that giant cooler.
Anyone? Also, just got a BSOD error that apparently points to temp issues. My card was running at 80C according to Afterburner before the crash. It was only a slight overclock too, like 30 mhz on both the memory and core clock.
Ether_Snake
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Hmm I'm guessing it will be too different.
So the proper thing to do is a Windows backup, and then a fresh install, then installing my backuped data?
When I do a Windows backup, do I keep all the Windows updates? I don't want to download all that stuff again:|
Putting together a new computer and I was wondering if I could get some feed back on this build:
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler
Motherboard: ASRock Z97M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card
Case: Corsair 450D ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit)
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler
Motherboard: ASRock Z97M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card
Case: Corsair 450D ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit)
Would be helpful if you posted the prices, but it looks pretty good. You might be able to get one of the MX100 SSD's cheaper than that Samsung Evo, and you can probably ditch the optical drive unless you know you'll need it.
Nostremitus
Member
Your laptop will send a digital signal from your HDMI out that your VGA (analog) monitor will not recognize.
Quick question: a few months ago, my GPU started making a slight buzzing noise. It only happens on certain games, and only when something is being rendered. Definitely not coil whine, it sounds like when you hold a pieced of paper or something in a fan. It's not the fans though (although there was an incident with the fan around the time this started, but I ruled that out already). I have to put my ear right next to the case to hear it when it's happening, but it's still there.
I've played probably 20 hours worth of games on it since the buzzing started, and noticed no difference in performance from before it started. I'm just paranoid that the noise is indicative of a possible failure in the future, specifically one that could harm all the other parts.
My question is basically this; should I be concerenced that whatever is causing this could hurt my whole build? Or will it be self contained if it becomes a bigger issue in the future? And should I even be worrying about this noise? I'd imagine that PC parts have safety features to stop one part from ruining another, but this is my first PC so I'm not sure.
I've played probably 20 hours worth of games on it since the buzzing started, and noticed no difference in performance from before it started. I'm just paranoid that the noise is indicative of a possible failure in the future, specifically one that could harm all the other parts.
My question is basically this; should I be concerenced that whatever is causing this could hurt my whole build? Or will it be self contained if it becomes a bigger issue in the future? And should I even be worrying about this noise? I'd imagine that PC parts have safety features to stop one part from ruining another, but this is my first PC so I'm not sure.
maneil99
Member
Check to see if anywires or paper tags attached to wires are getting hit by case/gpu fans
Nope, they're not. I even readjusted some wires thinking that was it, but nope. It's definitely related to when the GPU is rendering, but only on some games, and with no effect on performance.
I mean, if you can afford it, bigger can't hurt. But I think 256 is fine as long as you have a big storage drive for games and such. Better to put the saved money into better other parts IMO.
maneil99
Member
Okay so I'm going for 512gb. I have a bunch of junk in my bios disabled for my overclock (Cstates and stuff) do I need to renable anything? When it comes to installing the OS, I have 8.1 installed on my HDD atm, will I be able to run windows installer from a usb, format the HDD clean and install it on the SSD just like that? Will I have to set up raid or anything
Looks nice. Do you have the prices and your budget? There's not much I'd change (The Llama has covered most of it already) but since you're using a mATX motherboard you could change that huge 450D for the smaller 350D - that might save you some money too.
Oh..so then do I need something like this?
http://www.rakuten.com/prod/black-1...eo-converter-adapter-cable-for/245696612.html
Also guys, if I buy this fan and put it into my Fractal R4, I'll be able to control the speed using the built in fan controller right? Or do I need the fan with the multispeed function? Do I need the multispeed ones if I wanted to replace my Hyper 212 fan?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...5709023&cm_re=phanteks-_-35-709-023-_-Product
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...5709023&cm_re=phanteks-_-35-709-023-_-Product
Dries
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So I installed my Samsung 840 EVO and what a differenc coming from a HDD! Such a shame though that Samsung doesn't include screws in the packaging though! For now I've taped my SSD onto the bracket... #ghettostyle. But seriously, what the fuck Samsung?
Also I need a new virus-scanner/firewall software. Any reccomendations?
Also I need a new virus-scanner/firewall software. Any reccomendations?
Drama Zed Nod
Member
Make sure to install the Samsung magician software.
When you do, use it to benchmark your read / write.
Activate RAPID mode.
Benchmark again.
See the difference it makes!
Don't they have a separate sku for ones that do have screws and brackets etc? You probably got the barebones laptop kit
I just use Microsoft Security Essentials with Windows firewall and Malwarebytes free. No viruses here.
Don't get too excited about rapid mode.
http://techreport.com/review/25282/a-closer-look-at-rapid-dram-caching-on-the-samsung-840-evo-ssd
It costs 1GB of system memory and doesn't exactly set the world on fire, especially if you're mostly playing games. It's just a RAMdisk cache.
Drama Zed Nod
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Oh strange. I haven't seen this before. Thanks for sharing
Have you tried Firestrike or Valley / Heaven with Rapid on and off to see what the impact is?
Shouldn't have an issue. You may need to reinstall the chipset drivers, check device manager to be sure.
Nice, I was always under the impressive that changing a CPU was a massive thing. That'll make everything a whole lot easier.
Dries
Member
I will most certaintly install the Samsung Magican software! Are there any other handy features that are mandatory with this software?
Well the whole SSD package I bought was the only type of package being sold, so I don't know..
Seems like I won't be going down this road. Because basically I'll only be playing games indeed.
WOAH. STOP.
3570 is socket 1155
4790 is socket 1150.
They are not compatible!
Best chip for socket 1155 is the 3770k
Yeah you're right, looks like I can't even buy socket 1155 CPUs from my local store anymore as well. If I get a new motherboard, that will require a new OS install right? Also is socket 2011 worth getting?
So I might have a problem...
my video card ( gainward gtx 760 phantom) seems to be fucked. when I turned on my PC this moring the monitor stayed black, when I was watching house of cards last eveining everything was fine. I then removed my GPU and connected my monitor to my onboard graphics card and it worked. so it got to the my GPU. its fans are running and when I put in the HDMI cable my monitor seems to recognize there's something as he goes from standby to normal mode, but immediately tells me "no signal". I removed all my graphics drivers, but that didn't work.
anything else I could try?
my video card ( gainward gtx 760 phantom) seems to be fucked. when I turned on my PC this moring the monitor stayed black, when I was watching house of cards last eveining everything was fine. I then removed my GPU and connected my monitor to my onboard graphics card and it worked. so it got to the my GPU. its fans are running and when I put in the HDMI cable my monitor seems to recognize there's something as he goes from standby to normal mode, but immediately tells me "no signal". I removed all my graphics drivers, but that didn't work.
anything else I could try?
tioslash
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I have a 760 aswell and the other day I was testing some dual monitor setup, and then when I went back to use my single one, the card would fail to display image, only heard the beeps showing no signal. I would triple-check that the card is properly seated on the PCIe slot, and also check that the power supply cables that connect to the GPU are also well locked in place. In my case that was the problem.
If still doesn´t work, does you mobo have another PCIe slot so you could test it? ( Assuming you didn´t already)
same problem
the weird part is that if the GPU is inserted, the onboard graphics are disabled - so it seems my mobo recognizes the card
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