You mean that one game on Wii U? They simply went for 60fps above all else, so that's why it wasn't as gorgeous to look at.
Console games with amazing image quality.
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You mean that one game on Wii U? They simply went for 60fps above all else, so that's why it wasn't as gorgeous to look at.
Lord Error
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I've been really happy with IQ achieved in 99% of PS4 games so far. Even games that use plain FXAA like TR
F or Trine 2 use the highest quality variant of it which looks quite good on a TV that you don't stare at from a foot distance.
I'm not sure what TLOU:R is using but it's really impressive too. Infamous is still the king of console IQ though. Looks razor sharp with minimal, easily ignorable aliasing. The temporal supersample aspect of their AA removes jaggies even from a lot of sub pixel edges, and most importantly, eliminates shimmering when in motion. Overall image in SS looks far better than any 2xMSAA 1080p game I've seen.
F or Trine 2 use the highest quality variant of it which looks quite good on a TV that you don't stare at from a foot distance.I'm not sure what TLOU:R is using but it's really impressive too. Infamous is still the king of console IQ though. Looks razor sharp with minimal, easily ignorable aliasing. The temporal supersample aspect of their AA removes jaggies even from a lot of sub pixel edges, and most importantly, eliminates shimmering when in motion. Overall image in SS looks far better than any 2xMSAA 1080p game I've seen.
I'm guessing the screens you're seeing are compressed shots uploaded through Facebook/Twitter. This can definitely ruin the image quality of a screenshot and make it look blurrier/artifacty/lower res.
Infamous does have very good IQ for a console game. Direct shots, non-photomode show this off quite well. Its not perfect IQ by any means, though.
Lord Error
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Infamous photo mode looks absolutely identical to gameplay. Photo mode literally lets you manipulate the camera around in real time with no slowdown or additional frame drops whatsoever, and no AA or anything else is added when you take a screenshot. In fact, as you said, most screens posted look worse than what you see on the screen due to JPEG compression.
No, it's modified SMAA T2x. Temporal supersample component adds *hugely* to the quality of overall AA solution, this can't be understated. However, to add temporal component of it to a game, requires lots of work on a case-to-case basis, and can't just be code dropped in verbatim like you can with FXAA. Which is probably why FXAA still remains more popular for now. There was an article from someone at UBI who was working on their own implementation of it to AC4, and I was surprised just how much work and ingenuity they had to put in to make the temporal aspect of SMAA work as well as it did.
Crab Milk Mickey
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Or you could just enable .png screenshots for Steam to put into a seperate folder. Steam -> Settings -> In-game -> Save an uncompressed copy. Uploads to Steam Community are still the compressed .jpg versions, but no need for FRAPS.
SMAA T2x
Ori and the Blind Forest.
Every 2d game is going to have great image quality.
That's surprising considering the obvious sub-pixel aliasing I've seen in some shots. Must be bad angles.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
Some sub pixel aliasing remains, but it's removed in like 95% cases, plus it's especially hardly visible while in motion, which matters the most anyway. The only reason SMAAT2x is not a magic bullet for AA is that it requires a lot of work hooking it up to a game engine, because it needs being fed motion vectors and stuff like that to calculate temporal offsets.
Here's a really good article from AC4 developer: http://bartwronski.com/2014/03/15/temporal-supersampling-and-antialiasing/
Just look at the difference between plain SMAA and the with added temporal component, but then also just what they had to do to make it all work.
A lot of PS4 games have great image quality. I'm really happy with the console on that front.
Skylander's Swap Force has practically perfect IQ. You can't perfectly tell here with the compressed shot, but there's not a jaggy in sight and it's obviously running at 1080p with some great object-based motion blur.
And Infamous Second Son has the best image quality for a big console game so far.
Skylander's Swap Force has practically perfect IQ. You can't perfectly tell here with the compressed shot, but there's not a jaggy in sight and it's obviously running at 1080p with some great object-based motion blur.
And Infamous Second Son has the best image quality for a big console game so far.
Came to post this. I always wondered why more PS3 games couldn't default upscale to 1080p as successfully as FFXIII did.
The Inventor
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I did. Now I got an Xbox One and maybe next year I'm buying new PC hardware too, who knows.
But I think that answered your question.
IAmRandom31
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Joke post?
Must be a joke post.
As Infamous is easily the best looking next-gen out there with the cleanest IQ with the best AA solution used yet ... surely a joke post.
HyruleGuardian
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Khalifa Jayy
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Infamous Second Son, son!
Are you trying to be funny?
HyruleGuardian
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The Galaxy games really need to be remade in HD. They look fantastic on the dolphin emulator.
HyruleGuardian
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Nope. It's not realistic looking, but I think Wind Waker HD looks gorgeous.
Who said anything about IQ being realistic looking?
HyruleGuardian
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I think the game looks good, you don't. Moving on.
Pagusas
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whats your problem? the game's IQ Is very good. great texture filtering, nothing is muddy, not much aliasing, everything is sharp and well defined. They didn't cut corners when it came to the overall image construction.
Nah, still looks great.
If that's the definition of "not much aliasing" then sure, I have a problem.
I have to disagree. Shimmering it's quite evident in SS but the most annoying thing it's the ghost effect in the subpixels samples. I start to notice coming to another game with different AA. When I replay Infamous after, ghosting it's really noticeable.I've been really happy with IQ achieved in 99% of PS4 games so far. Even games that use plain FXAA like TR
I'm not sure what TLOU:R is using but it's really impressive too. Infamous is still the king of console IQ though. Looks razor sharp with minimal, easily ignorable aliasing. The temporal supersample aspect of their AA removes jaggies even from a lot of sub pixel edges, and most importantly, eliminates shimmering when in motion. Overall image in SS looks far better than any 2xMSAA 1080p game I've seen.
Have you actually played the game on the Wii U? It looks fantastic. Most screens I've seen do not capture it correctly..
Canis lupus
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inFamous SS and Driveclub make every other game look last gen this year.
God of War 3 and Killzone 2 also looked great.
Next gen started 4 years ago.
God of War 3 and Killzone 2 also looked great.
Next gen started 4 years ago.
I know exactly how SMAA works, I read the original paper years ago
Still, SMAA T2x only has 2 samples (at best, when the re-projection applies) to work with. That's better than the 1 sample of all pure post-processing methods (FXAA, SMAA 1x, MLAA etc.), but simply not enough to effectively combat all types of aliasing.
I can't believe I haven't seen any pictures yet
Rayman Legends
Well, that's because it's 99% 2D. It looks amazing, but obviously a 2D game is going to have good image quality.
CambriaRising
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I feel like a lot of people in this thread don't know what "Image quality" actually means.
Pagusas
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bright well defined colors (and overall simple colors) and high contrast.
Next gen started 4 years ago.
Killzone 2 has a really cool look, but I wouldn't say it has great image quality. It's kind of purposely muddy, with it's QAA and heavy post-processing.
Captain Toad's IQ is pretty good as well.
That was the first thing that popped in my mind after seeing the video i posted on the previous page. Thanks for these.
The Main Event
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Tropical Freeze is a top contender for sure.
Not at 2560 x 1440.
It looks better without AA once the resolution gets high enough, imo. AA makes it look a lot softer.
These are all downsampled screenshots.
2560x1440 without AA looks terrible.
3840x2160 is a bit better, but still not good enough.
Now this is OK without additional AA:
It's extremely misleading IMO to regard temporal supersampling in the same pool as spatial techniques like FXAA and the SMAA post filter. Not that it's perfect; temporal supersampling usually breaks down in motion at some point, and depending on how good a game's motion tracking and reprojection is, there'll be some tradeoff of antialiasing coverage and ghosting.
InFAMOUS Second Son does a pretty good job, though I've definitely seen the impacts of ghosting, and the temporal supersampling shuts off when an area of the screen gets up to a medium amount of motion.
But FH's geometric sampling is tremendous for the scenes being rendered, and it doesn't give a whole lot of opportunity for significant shader aliasing, so it does look extremely stable.
The original Xbox game is fairly muddy. Same 640x480, trilinear texture filtering, etc used by the first Halo, but Halo 2's scene composition thirsts for more power. Especially in places like the Delta Halo Stonerunner structures.
InFAMOUS Second Son does a pretty good job, though I've definitely seen the impacts of ghosting, and the temporal supersampling shuts off when an area of the screen gets up to a medium amount of motion.
In terms of raw clarity, I think I'd give the edge to the games running at substantially higher resolutions and framerates, like Ridge Racer 7.
But FH's geometric sampling is tremendous for the scenes being rendered, and it doesn't give a whole lot of opportunity for significant shader aliasing, so it does look extremely stable.
FFXIII is a funny one. Great example of how games can be perceived as having excellent IQ even if there's substantial aliasing. 2xMSAA on geometry and some negative LOD bias on textures is an interesting combo.
Heh. I suppose with H2V, especially these days you can just crank sampling through the roof.
so crisp, so clean
The original Xbox game is fairly muddy. Same 640x480, trilinear texture filtering, etc used by the first Halo, but Halo 2's scene composition thirsts for more power. Especially in places like the Delta Halo Stonerunner structures.
CambriaRising
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Those are bullshots.