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Role reversal as Manchester United now desperately seek elite signings rather than Manchester City



http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...ings-rather-than-manchester-city-9690035.html

tl;dr - United are in a bit of a mess

Moyes really did the shitty end of the stick

I can't imagine how frustrating it must've been to be told you could buy anyone and then end up with the squad he had.

Talk of Ronaldo, Bale, Kroos, Fabregas and you end up panic buying Fellaini.

 

[El Topo]

Moyes really did the shitty end of the stick

I can't imagine how frustrating it must've been to be told you could buy anyone and then end up with the squad he had.

If Van Gaal also fails Moyes will be absolved.

 

[Clegg]

Have we signed the Angel of Mary yet?

 

[Shanks D Zoro]

Boom, 12th in korea, 4th in footy-gaf and 1st in head to head, with Wilbur up next. So another easy win

Decided to use my wildcard to get rid of Giroud, Dzeko, Kolarov and Gibbs and replace them with Jovetic, Ade, and Demichelis. Also switched Mannone with Courtouis.

I wish Wenger would act as quickly as I do.

 

[Pennywise]

Too bad you dont have a Schieber anymore. Why not try Ramos?

Some minor problems prevented him from playing against Leverkusen.

Schieber wouldn't have worked in Dortmund in a million years, at least if Klopp would still be the coach and we had the same system.

 

[Yurt]

Boom, 12th in korea, 4th in footy-gaf and 1st in head to head, with Wilbur up next. So another easy win

Decided to use my wildcard to get rid of Giroud, Dzeko, Kolarov and Gibbs and replace them with Jovetic, Ade, and Demichelis. Also switched Mannone with Courtouis.

I wish Wenger would act as quickly as I do.

Who's the top 10 in FootyGAF? :lol

 

[figadapaura]

Have we signed the Angel of Mary yet?

Should be announced later today after his medical.

 

[Shanks D Zoro]

Who's the top 10 im FootyGAF? :lol

in footy Gaf? Willkiller is 1st and in the top 100 overall. Meier is second and I don't recognise anyone else.

http://fantasy.premierleague.com/my-leagues/51061/standings/ the standings

 

[Bold One]

Just pre-ordered the PS4 Destiny Bundle for £289 with a bunch of Tesco vouchers and shit. Not bad.

I'm going to miss the Liverpool match on Sunday as I'll be on a plane, but I think it's a good time to play them. Before they've really built up a head of steam.

what?!

 

[Hixx]

I moved from like 50th to 7th in one week.

On my level

get.

 

[Broder Salsa]

in footy Gaf? Willkiller is 1st and in the top 100 overall. Meier is second and I don't recognise anyone else.

http://fantasy.premierleague.com/my-leagues/51061/standings/ the standings

I'm Emil, with the little horse fc team. I was in the top 10 yesterday before the city match... Doubt anymore, can't login from phone for whatever reason.

 

[FortuneFaded]

I went from 109th to 105th. By GW28 I will be top.

 

[Shanks D Zoro]

I'm Emil, with the little horse fc team. I was in the top 10 yesterday before the city match... Doubt anymore, can't login from phone for whatever reason.

15th. f

uck that city game. It was brutal on me. Kolorov didn't start and shit performances from Dzeko, Silva and Sterling.

 

[Phlebas]

Huh is it too late to get in on that Fantasy Football?

 

[Ushojax]

what?!

Staff discount x Clubcard Boost + eCoupons

 

[Freewheelin']

I'm 51st in the FPL so close ;_;

 

[Yurt]

Huh is it too late to get in on that Fantasy Football?

Not after last night's game :lol I'm sure you can catch up

 

[Broder Salsa]

Huh is it too late to get in on that Fantasy Football?

You can still join but people will obviously be ahead.

It helps that everyone gives up and forgets about it after a month or two though.

 

[L1NETT]

I'm 51st in the FPL so close ;_;

It's marathon not a sprint Dean don't worry

A marathon everyone gives up a third of the way through when they forget about it

 

[DBT85]

It helps that everyone gives up and forgets about it after a month or two though.

My only hope of getting a decent finish lol.

 

[Freewheelin']

It's marathon not a sprint Dean don't worry

A marathon everyone gives up a third of the way through when they forget about it

Yeah, haha

I will forget about it soon enough

 

[Phlebas]

Is this the right site? :

http://fantasy.premierleague.com/

 

[Broder Salsa]

Is this the right site? :

http://fantasy.premierleague.com/

Yes and the league code should be in the ot, in hidden email tags that you can only see by quoting it

 

[dc89]

Moyes really did the shitty end of the stick

I can't imagine how frustrating it must've been to be told you could buy anyone and then end up with the squad he had.

Talk of Ronaldo, Bale, Kroos, Fabregas and you end up panic buying Fellaini.

Yep. I feel bad for the guy.

 

[Labadal]

Just pre-ordered the PS4 Destiny Bundle for £289 with a bunch of Tesco vouchers and shit. Not bad.

I'm going to miss the Liverpool match on Sunday as I'll be on a plane, but I think it's a good time to play them. Before they've really built up a head of steam.

We're going to win.

 

[bwakh]

Can anybody give me the code for the footy-gaf league?

 

[Freewheelin']

lol at that share a little secret about yourself thread, some good stuff in there already, although its hard to know whether they are lying or not

 

[Broder Salsa]

Can anybody give me the code for the footy-gaf league?

See my post above. It's in email tags in the ot you will have to quote it. Think it's at the end

 

[Blablurn]

Dat benatia

 

[Shanks D Zoro]

So a Football Italia article said that Sabatini flew to London a couple days ago to offer us Benatia, but Arsenal turned him down. I really hope the article is bullshit, which I feel it is, but if it is even remotely true then the club is truly clueless.

 

[Clegg]

Been looking through yesterday's posts about Uniteds possible formation with Di Maria in the side. I just can't see one where Mata plays effectively in.

 

[LabouredSubterfuge]

Been looking through yesterday's posts about Uniteds possible formation with Di Maria in the side. I just can't see one where Mata plays effectively in.

I can, but it jettisons one of Rooney or RVP.

 

[bwakh]

See my post above. It's in email tags in the ot you will have to quote it. Think it's at the end

Got in. Thanks!

 

[sohois]

So a Football Italia article said that Sabatini flew to London a couple days ago to offer us Benatia, but Arsenal turned him down. I really hope the article is bullshit, which I feel it is, but if it is even remotely true then the club is truly clueless.

I'd imagine that clubs offering players around is standard practice. Arsenal didn't get involved for several reasons:

a) knew that they wouldn't have been able to compete with Bayern
b) didn't think it was worth the investment

 

[Bold One]

Been looking through yesterday's posts about Uniteds possible formation with Di Maria in the side. I just can't see one where Mata plays effectively in.

Angel of Mary can play on either side of Mata

did you not see G.Nev's analysis?

 

[Da DreadLord]

I can, but it jettisons one of Rooney or RVP.

Rooney can just captain from the bench like vermaelen did.

 

[Jack cw]

Dat benatia

At least he'll get enough money to buy some pants.

 

[Shanks D Zoro]

I'd imagine that clubs offering players around is standard practice. Arsenal didn't get involved for several reasons:

a) knew that they wouldn't have been able to compete with Bayern
b) didn't think it was worth the investment

a) the offer Bayern made is 19M so Sab flew to London to try and sell him to us.
b) it is why Arsenal won't win the league. Have a chance to sign one of the top 5 CBs who is just entering his prime and we turn it down.

 

[LabouredSubterfuge]

I suppose the only other idea is that LVG completely re-puposes Di Maria into a traditional CM (not the same thing as the sort of CM position he played for RM or Argentina last year since those systems had a dedicated DM anchor). Think it would be a waste of his talents though.

In truth I think the real answer to this signing lies in that LVG wants to change to 4-3-3 ASAP.

 

[sohois]

a) the offer Bayern made is 19M so Sab flew to London to try and sell him to us.
b) it is why Arsenal won't win the league. Have a chance to sign one of the top 5 CBs who is just entering his prime and we turn it down.

I mean in terms of attraction. Benatia would probably have just turned Arsenal down so he could force the Bayern move.

edit: and regarding the second point, it would be a misallocation of resources for Arsenal. They already have good first team centrebacks, but are lacking in other areas. Spending big on a CB could well lead to being unable to bring in a good midfielder or striker.

 

[Shanks D Zoro]

I mean in terms of attraction. Benatia would probably have just turned Arsenal down so he could force the Bayern move.

Maybe, but the article seems to suggest that Benatia is now just desperate to move, he isn't talking to anyone and they are not talking to him.

edit: and regarding the second point, it would be a misallocation of resources for Arsenal. They already have good first team centrebacks, but are lacking in other areas. Spending big on a CB could well lead to being unable to bring in a good midfielder or striker.

He is miles better than Mert and Kos. he is strong, quick, a great passer, a solid tackler and has good anticipation. He would be a huge upgrade.

 

[Clegg]

I suppose the only other idea is that LVG completely re-puposes Di Maria into a traditional CM (not the same thing as the sort of CM position he played for RM or Argentina last year since those systems had a dedicated DM anchor). Think it would be a waste of his talents though.

In truth I think the real answer to this signing lies in that LVG wants to change to 4-3-3 ASAP.

That would have either Rooney or Mata on the wing or at the the highest point in midfield. Neither work on the wing and Rooney isn't a great 10. But since he's the captain he gets more chances than others. Mata gets benched.

 

[sohois]

Maybe, but the article seems to suggest that Benatia is now just desperate to move, he isn't talking to anyone and they are not talking to him.

There's a lot more going on behind the scenes than is revealed in the papers though, with top clubs these days you rarely see deals fall down on personal terms because clubs pre arrange it through the agents and then make a bid.

Arsenal could have quite easily contacted Benatia's agent and found he was not interested or his wage demands were excessive.

He is miles better than Mert and Kos. he is strong, quick, a great passer, a solid tackler and has good anticipation. He would be a huge upgrade.

Let me use a very simple reduction to illustrate:

Assume that Koscielney and Mertesacker are 7/10 (with a normal distribution) for CBs. And that Benatia is a 9/10. So bringing in Benatia gives a +2 increase to the overall team.

Now let's assume that in the DM position, Arteta is a 5/10, and up front Sanogo is a 3/10. So if Arsenal split the Benatia fee between 2 players who are 7/10 then their team would increase by 6 points.

Hugely simplified but hopefully you see the basic point I am making.

 

[El Topo]

There's a lot more going on behind the scenes than is revealed in the papers though, with top clubs these days you rarely see deals fall down on personal terms because clubs pre arrange it through the agents and then make a bid.

Arsenal could have quite easily contacted Benatia's agent and found he was not interested or his wage demands were excessive.

I remember there were rumors that said that Benatia wants €8m per year. No idea if true.

 

[DBT85]

I agree its difficult to see a system that fits them all in at once. But there are going to be injuries and we have all the games in euro... fuck.

 

[Shanks D Zoro]

There's a lot more going on behind the scenes than is revealed in the papers though, with top clubs these days you rarely see deals fall down on personal terms because clubs pre arrange it through the agents and then make a bid.

Arsenal could have quite easily contacted Benatia's agent and found he was not interested or his wage demands were excessive.

yep, that is why if Sab flew to london he must have known of Benatia's desire to join Arsenal. he would not have offered him without knowing Benatia's wishes.

Still I take the whole article with a huge grain of salt.

 

[Tc91]

Angel of Mary can play on either side of Mata

did you not see G.Nev's analysis?

The G Nev analysis was good. I agree with the formations he put up and like he said you have a 40-50 game season so everyone is going to be needed.

If Mata gets benched then so be it, if ADM produces the type of form he had at Madrid in the middle then we'll be a better team.

 

[Shanks D Zoro]

I remember there were rumors that said that Benatia wants €8m per year. No idea if true.

Well worth it, especially in a world where David Luiz i am assuming earns more.

 

[GorillaJu]

You guys is it even possible to go from someone who does everything spontaneously with absolutely no foresight, attention span or work ethic into a conscientious and successful person?

Please say yes.

 

[K1LLER7]

That would have either Rooney or Mata on the wing or at the the highest point in midfield. Neither work on the wing and Rooney isn't a great 10. But since he's the captain he gets more chances than others. Mata gets benched.

433/442 (diamond)

Fullbacks provide the width/strikers pull out wide too.

Blind plays DM. Herrera and Di Maria either side.

Mata the point and RoonVP top 2.