Skullface
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Just wait and see, there's no way this guy won't see a trial.
You must have missed where I said that I may not have put enough thought into that donation. But keep hammering on that in an attempt to discredit everything I say.
Ferguson: Police Officer Kills 18yo Michael Brown; Protests/Riots Continue
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Just wait and see, there's no way this guy won't see a trial.
You must have missed where I said that I may not have put enough thought into that donation. But keep hammering on that in an attempt to discredit everything I say.
This is not true. And illustrates pretty clearly what "news" sources you're reading that would push you toward donating to Wilson.
Skullface
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You know nothing of what news sources I frequent. And yeah, the only viable evidence we have at this point is the coroners report, like it or not.
Skullface
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That's what you take as viable? That's conjecture.
You're the one that stated the report says he was not shot from the back.
The report does not say that. What you said was not true.
That quote is the assistant to the medical examiner speaking in case you missed that.
and you wanted a fair trial? ugh. Donations have far exceeded for Wilson. Please understand that.
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No it doesn't. The assisting professor for the autopsy said it's possible he could have been shot once on the arm.
Skullface
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I said he was not shot IN the back. Meaning no entrance wounds from the back. This is hardly proof that he was shot at from behind.
Random Painted HIghway
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The county me has not released a report from what I know, what you are looking at is the private autopsy and of limited utility.
OG_Original Gamer
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I'm still trying to figure out the equivalent. 5 ft something store clerk and armed police officer 5ft-10-6ft. If you can intimidate a store clerk, you definitely can intimidate a police officer by running away while being shot at. Then become mindless and numb to the threat of being shot, turn around and charge the armed police officer. He suddenly is no longer a human ,being, or believes he is now a Rhino, Bull, or Ram tough.
The assistant to the medical examiner states that the wound in his arm is consistent with being shot while walking away.
I'm not stating proof that he was shot from behind. I'm saying you are flat out wrong in using that report to say he was not shot from behind.
Stop saying that. You obviously have not watched the entire presentation. It was said he could have been shot at the ARM.
Been lurking, but did a double-take at this one.
Yikes. Just "sketch", like the utter disregard for proper procedure isn't at the very heart of the matter.
Yikes. Just "sketch", like the utter disregard for proper procedure isn't at the very heart of the matter.
Skullface
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My wording could have been clearer. I'll give you that. I've been doing this all from a mobile, so it's been difficult.
Maybe you should post some of your sources then.
Skullface
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Could have sounds a lot like conjecture to me.
Skullface
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I still think that there could be a reasonable explanation. That'd be a difficult one to explain away, but we'll have to wait and see.
mckmas8808
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Plus all the witnesses didn't say he got shot in the back. Not sure why Skullface is making that up.
Skullface
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http://time.com/3104128/michael-brown-ferguson-cop-shooting-protests/
I never said "all" the witnesses. Johnson, the star witness, said he was shot in the back.
Random Painted HIghway
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THe private autopsy literally had just the naked body to draw conclusions from. Not the clothes, not the ballistics. Just the body. Expecting definitive answers on questions that have multiple possibilities, such as arm placement, from a professional under those circumstances is unreasonable.
BronsonLee
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I have no idea why you guys are even entertaining this anymore. You know how this cycle works.
Skullface
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This is my fucking point. I maybe got ahead of myself by mentioning that it was definitive proof of anything, but it's literally the only solid proof, and it's not enough to draw conclusions from. As I said before, we've only seen a sliver of the evidence.
We all know the autopsy report was an initial report. All the possibilities stated were based on incomplete information yet you decide to be selective and dismissive on other accounts.
Can you provide some of the news sources where you're getting your information?
Skullface
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See my above post.
Being shot in the back of the arm is consistent with a witness stating he was shot in the back. If you're really trying to make a distinction there, you're just being silly.
If you want to state that you don't know whether he was shot in the back or not yet, that's fine. As the assistant to the ME stated, the evidence needs to be looked at further. Just stop trying to discredit witnesses with false information.
posted at the same time.
Skullface
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I'll have to dig up other sources to back up the word "several", but most importantly the star witness is a liar and likely a frequent criminal
http://www.*****************/news/a...n-arrest-warrant-theft-busted-lying-cops.html
Edit: wtf? Really?
this is such a bullshit cop out generalization.
If you've been following the events, we know plenty. Plenty of stuff to outrage normal non prejudiced/bigoted/racist people.
Things like:
Letting this young mans body sit in the street for hours uncovered
Not filing an incident report
Character assassination of the victim.
Police using excessive force and military grade weapons to quell protests
Setting up "1st amendment areas"
wrongfully arresting media, and refusing to give names upon arrest
Not wearing badges/identification
thats just to name a few.
Oh dear.
theignoramus
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The findings of this study are fairly sickening.No-one can say exactly what was passing through Wilson's mind when he shot Brown.
It is a sad truth though that police brutality frequently falls along racial lines in the United States. There's a substantial amount of evidence that subconscious (or conscious) racist stereotypes mean that African-Americans are more likely to be perceived as a threat than white people. This factors into play when it comes to the split-second decision to shoot an unarmed suspect.
http://www.newrepublic.com/article/119060/michael-brown-studies-show-racial-bias-police-shootings
BronsonLee
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Hey thanks for that banned link there! This totally doesn't end in absolute disaster and catastrophe!
yea really, those stars usually mean the website is banned, for good reason.
Skullface
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I get what it means, but I hardly get why this particular source is banned.
I'll be back with another source if that's not satisfactory.
theignoramus
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So Skullface, you are aware that these are the types of people you've chosen to associate with?
Oh look, a cacophony of anti black racism. Who wouldve thought Wilsons supporters would attract people with that mindset?
It's not known as the Daily Fail for no reason.
Actions have consequences. If you can't understand why people would raise an eyebrow at that donation, I don't know what to tell you. It's your right to do whatever you want with your money, but there's an implication in that donation that's troublingly one-sided. And frankly bizarre.
Bluekaveli
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Skullface lol
He's a slow typist? Dog ate his first draft? He's got a pile of higher priority reports to file on his desk and he's just diligently working his way through them? What's your favorite theory?
And how much longer should we have to "wait and see" before we can safely assume there's little or no intent to produce one unless forced to do so?
benjipwns
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It's tacked onto the end of this CNN report: http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/26/us/michael-brown-ferguson-shooting/
Now I understood that part, gross.
How come when there's an accusation of wrong-doing on Darren Wilson's part people are all 'wait and see' and 'evidence' and shit but when someone tries to discredit two black teens who haven't been charged with any crime it's all 'robbery' and 'thug'?
If we have to accept the 'facts' that Mike Brown committed strong-arm robbery then we also have to accept the 'facts' that Darren Wilson was fired with an entire racist police force, didn't file an incident report, and was likely emotionally unstable due to marriage troubles.
Good looking out for Darren Wilson tho.
If we have to accept the 'facts' that Mike Brown committed strong-arm robbery then we also have to accept the 'facts' that Darren Wilson was fired with an entire racist police force, didn't file an incident report, and was likely emotionally unstable due to marriage troubles.
Good looking out for Darren Wilson tho.
benjipwns
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Look, it's just giving everyone the benefit of the doubt. Both the hero cop and the kingpins of an organized crime ring.
OG_Original Gamer
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More than likely an assumption on Johnson part, being shot at can cause someone to be startled. With a physical reaction, that can appear to support his assumption.
Is there any reports of anyone being shot at by the police while running away, to have turned around, despite the threat of bodily harm or death and charge towards police. Wouldn't Brown at this point have chosen death over the fear of death?
It's a lot like the last few pages, isn't it. Yeesh.
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