The Strain |OT| Guillermo del Toro's new show for FX - Sundays 10/9c
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bobbyrawlins
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This show is bad on multiple levels. Gonna stick with it, though, because I'm still interested in how it's gonna play out.
ha. sadly we are not.
You work at FX? Sweeeet. But it is a fun/ good job right?
Baroquemantic
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Won't be able to watch the latest episode til 12am my time, but skimmed through the posts tonight and it seems it was a really good episode.
SniperHunter
Banned
Great episode. Reminded me of the cabin level from re4
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In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
TERRIBLE episode
Every character were making and saying the most non-believable things. The store clerk had to be the dumbest thing written for TV this year, dunno where to start. And people running out, with clear ass danger outside, main character still acting like the old man's crazy... seriously, such a great premise with such terrible screenplay.
I dunno people can say this eps was good.
Every character were making and saying the most non-believable things. The store clerk had to be the dumbest thing written for TV this year, dunno where to start. And people running out, with clear ass danger outside, main character still acting like the old man's crazy... seriously, such a great premise with such terrible screenplay.
I dunno people can say this eps was good.
a secret-boss
Banned
season finally picking up. Team Strain assemble
poor Sam getting a head shot
poor Sam getting a head shot
I am alright with this episode.
Still some more than mild cases of stupid running around though.
Still some more than mild cases of stupid running around though.
It's pretty much the same as that movie Legion, too, which is funny cause Fet was in it.
Baroquemantic
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That was a really good episode. I'm so glad this show turned out well. It's one of my favorites of the new shows.
Futurevoid
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Good episode. The writing is still full of "charm" left and right but the good outweighs the bad. Fet is great! Needs to do a testicle transfer so Eph can grow a pair.
I'm all for arriving at some type of biological conclusion for why things are happening but when the shit is hitting the fan, it's time to remove your heads from your asses Eph and Nora. New York just went straight Lost Boys on your asses.
I'm all for arriving at some type of biological conclusion for why things are happening but when the shit is hitting the fan, it's time to remove your heads from your asses Eph and Nora. New York just went straight Lost Boys on your asses.
This episode was pretty amazing although I don't know why del toro has to put at least 1 of the most dumbest people in each episode...I swear hes doing it intentionally just to make viewers mad...
Its so infuriating...before it was the stupid taxi driver and now this...
Can't wait for next week!
Also I just realized that setrakian's actor played argus filch in harry potter
O_O
Its so infuriating...before it was the stupid taxi driver and now this...
But overall I loved the whole stuck in the mall against hordes of...vampires surrounding it.
Can't wait for next week!
Also I just realized that setrakian's actor played argus filch in harry potter
O_O
Great episode. Show seems to be hitting its stride and it looks like the A-team is fully assembled.
Oh, yeah. I knew I recognized him from somewhere. He's pretty much the perfect pick for the role.
I am still weirded out seeing Corey Stoll wearing a wig in this, since his baldingness is present in everything else I've seen him in.
TheSadRanger
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bobbyrawlins
Banned
Agree wholeheartedly. Fet was the only redeeming factor for me this episode.
Another thing that bothered me: Even though they didn't get to use it, it was a good thing both those cars had the exact same lug patterns so they could just swap the wheels!
In retrospect I don't get why FX bothered to greenlight this show.
The horror genre is among the least popular genres in books and film so taking on this genre on TV even with the success of the Walking Dead is a risk. While in the case of movies inspite of the low popularity it has always been a great investment vehicle because the audience that have been appealed to so far get by with low production values.
The first two episodes of the Strain look like they are more expensive than all of the past horror movies made. That money was well spent in providing excellent atmosphere, varied locations to make the whole situation look larger scale than it is and the props succeeded in making the Strigoi believable.
Yet the Strain has one of the things that continued to make the horror genre in film (don't know enough about books) feel like a subpar experience and that is the terrible writing. The Walking Dead for all of its problems some people like to moan about had great writing and acting to deliver what was written down.
The writing on this show is very hit or miss and the episodes are expensive looking (though with this most recent episode they saved a ton of money by sticking to one location)
Sometimes the writing was bad through no fault of the actors. Case in point is how the episode ended with the vampires crashing down the roof. The way it was shot was a clear homage to the Aliens' scene. The hamfisted in a homage scene that really didn't need to be done.
The show is entertaining and has some awesome moments but I still wonder how FX thought this would be a good idea when they consistently try to make well written smart shows for the first 3 seasons.
But that plan failed in the end so the point is moot.
Actually the store clerk was one of the better things going on in this episode.
The vampire outbreak was still an unknown threat. THis was made clear by the old guy restocking the bread that evening. Bread isn't something you can hold onto for long which means it had to have been delivered that day. Up until the vampires attacked everything in the world seemed to be working normally aside from some annoying hackers.
Secondly if you have ever worked in those type of locations where you need to hide behind security glass well you start falling into the mental trap that this is the safest location. He had no compelling reason to leave that spot with so much craziness going on.
Thirdly from his vantage point he couldn't fully see what was happening. He could tell people were dying but he couldn't see how horrific the attackers were up until they swarmed the place.
As for his idiocy about the stolen goods and calling the police even though he knew getting them would be very difficult well his behavior fits his expectations in the first point I made. He thought everything was relatively normal with society functioning. All he had to do was hold out in his bunker and he can explain to his boss later how he couldn't handle being overwhelmed by looters.
Everyone else though had some even worse inexplicable reactions to what was going on around them.
The horror genre is among the least popular genres in books and film so taking on this genre on TV even with the success of the Walking Dead is a risk. While in the case of movies inspite of the low popularity it has always been a great investment vehicle because the audience that have been appealed to so far get by with low production values.
The first two episodes of the Strain look like they are more expensive than all of the past horror movies made. That money was well spent in providing excellent atmosphere, varied locations to make the whole situation look larger scale than it is and the props succeeded in making the Strigoi believable.
Yet the Strain has one of the things that continued to make the horror genre in film (don't know enough about books) feel like a subpar experience and that is the terrible writing. The Walking Dead for all of its problems some people like to moan about had great writing and acting to deliver what was written down.
The writing on this show is very hit or miss and the episodes are expensive looking (though with this most recent episode they saved a ton of money by sticking to one location)
Sometimes the writing was bad through no fault of the actors. Case in point is how the episode ended with the vampires crashing down the roof. The way it was shot was a clear homage to the Aliens' scene. The hamfisted in a homage scene that really didn't need to be done.
The show is entertaining and has some awesome moments but I still wonder how FX thought this would be a good idea when they consistently try to make well written smart shows for the first 3 seasons.
But that plan failed in the end so the point is moot.
Actually the store clerk was one of the better things going on in this episode.
The vampire outbreak was still an unknown threat. THis was made clear by the old guy restocking the bread that evening. Bread isn't something you can hold onto for long which means it had to have been delivered that day. Up until the vampires attacked everything in the world seemed to be working normally aside from some annoying hackers.
Secondly if you have ever worked in those type of locations where you need to hide behind security glass well you start falling into the mental trap that this is the safest location. He had no compelling reason to leave that spot with so much craziness going on.
Thirdly from his vantage point he couldn't fully see what was happening. He could tell people were dying but he couldn't see how horrific the attackers were up until they swarmed the place.
As for his idiocy about the stolen goods and calling the police even though he knew getting them would be very difficult well his behavior fits his expectations in the first point I made. He thought everything was relatively normal with society functioning. All he had to do was hold out in his bunker and he can explain to his boss later how he couldn't handle being overwhelmed by looters.
Everyone else though had some even worse inexplicable reactions to what was going on around them.
Vert boil
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Looks like we are almost at the Walking Dead level on the craptacular-o-meter.
Eichorst: Sitting down in pain
Nora: Crying over Samwise
Samwise: Setting up the light
Setrakian: Nail gun then head chop
Vasiliy: Training for his role in the Troy remake, Some more training, Premium
Stalking vamp
Eichorst: Sitting down in pain
Nora: Crying over Samwise
Samwise: Setting up the light
Setrakian: Nail gun then head chop
Vasiliy: Training for his role in the Troy remake, Some more training, Premium
Stalking vamp
Vert boil
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The Fet and Set Connection. awww yeah we got something!
bobbyrawlins
Banned
It's not moot. It's stupid, lazy writing. That's not how cars work. You can't just swap wheels like that.
Ingueferroque
Banned
So you don't watch Game of Thrones?
bloodydrake
Cool Smoke Luke
Ya no..not at all ..they're the dumbest people in the history of mankind..it has the worst writing imaginable..the characters are all morons...all of them.
But I don't blame actors for shitty scripts.., bad directing and poor editing.
I won't defend the strain either..cuz they're definitely striving for the crown of dumb and dumber with most of the characters,except Fet and Setrakian, whom seem to be actually well written..
Ingueferroque
Banned
Isn't the writing supposed to be campy? It doesn't really work for me though as I always find myself making a conscious effort not to think about it too much. Besides the writing being campy, the unrealistic reactions/situations (within the framing of a supernatural horror movie) is down to bad writing if you ask me.
After Pacific Rim, I wonder if Del Toro is trying to make a statement here.
Love the show however, disliked yesterday's episode.
After Pacific Rim, I wonder if Del Toro is trying to make a statement here.
Love the show however, disliked yesterday's episode.
~Devil Trigger~
In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
oh cmon, you stretching things here
1- You stay inside the box if the danger is CLEARLY outside. He had a Multi camera system(like ANY gas station) on teh gas pump area, he should've seen what was happening out there. Plus he barely tried to even talk to anybody for what I assume lasted hours.
2- Just simple discretion through half the episode he couldnt put together the fact that the danger was outside and it was getting in? he didnt listen to any of the customers? See that the customers were not stealing anything but protecting themselves and Him?? cmon his action were completely unbelievable. Wait for the cops when clearly everything was down.... "someone" cutting the power outside... smh
3- "Who gonna pay for"... oh FUCK OFF REALLY?? you see/hear people breaking in from front back ceiling, screaming like animals...you care about money???
4- The old man was terribly written too. What bothered me is him running out without even LOOKING at what were these things out there, he had no good reason to ignore the main characters. The brunette was a LITTLE bit more believable with the sudden revelation of the blond hacker, I can at least see her not trusting anyone in there for a moment.
It was really a good moment in this story/series, but horribly written.
Jason's Ultimatum
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Stupid tropes with blonde girl falling down, and the all of a sudden the CDC lady is able to make head shots.
But this is a guily pleasure show. There's nothing else on Sundays on basic cable.
But this is a guily pleasure show. There's nothing else on Sundays on basic cable.
Point 1 is very good and counters what I said for my first and third argument.
Point 2 doesn't address the fact these things can and usually are built like panic rooms. It is reasonable for him to believe he is safer inside than outside. The problem he clearly wasn't considering is how to contact help. *shrugs*
I was working under the impression he really didn't have a good view of what was happening and that would help buy into the idea this isn't something out of control like vampires running amok. But since he would have video cameras there's no excuse for some of the things he was concerned about.
I also said the old man was written terribly.
See You Next Wednesday
Banned
Isn't it the most profitable?
I know Stephan King is like at the top of the most books sold by a author.
ReturnOfTheRAT
Member
That was good. The setting could have been a mess with all those characters in such a convinced place. They made it work and were creative enough on the defense side of things to hold my interest.
Good riddance Jim. You got a short lease on continued life, but it was time to to for a punk like you. Boss Fet did the right thing.
Good riddance Jim. You got a short lease on continued life, but it was time to to for a punk like you. Boss Fet did the right thing.
It's a huge coincidence that the hacker was at a gas station.
I thought the episode was better than the others, because we have been given a low bar. It actually reminded of an episode of The Walking Dead because they also had a scene at a convenience store.
Right now this show is like TWD at the verge of the outbreak, since TWD takes place completely after it.
I thought the episode was better than the others, because we have been given a low bar. It actually reminded of an episode of The Walking Dead because they also had a scene at a convenience store.
Right now this show is like TWD at the verge of the outbreak, since TWD takes place completely after it.
indigo-cyclops
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Without looking through the thread for fear of spoilers, was there not a new episode last night? I missed it and Im looking through my OnDemand and don't see it...
Dynamite Ringo Matsuri
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There was a new one. Now that Set and Fet have teamed up, it can only go up from here. Fet's lookin like the Shane that the series needs
indigo-cyclops
Member
Huh, thanks. Strange it's not on FiOS OnDemand yet.
lazybones18
Banned
can't wait to see how he'll react if Zack turns
Clockwork
Member
Just watch it on the FX website.
Alternatively I use the FX Now app on my XBOX One.
Doc Holliday
SPOILER: Columbus finds America
He's also walder Frey from game of thrones.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
Bye Jim, but fuck Rat boy wasted no time.
I honestly both like and dislike how they did this.
I mean, they executed it in a way where they were allowed to share the same context of the book, but at the same time, it took away from Eph's (much needed) development into a slayer to showcase a guy that already was a badass.
Guys this show is great. It's supposed to be stupid at times. Everything is intentional.
http://collider.com/the-strain-season-2-guillermo-del-toro-interview/
"When I was a kid, horror series were fun. Kolchak would go out to a junkyard and face a zombie, entirely alone at midnight, and youd go, Why are you going there alone, in the middle of the night, to put a bag of salt in the mouth of the zombie? Why cant you bring somebody else, or call the police? I wanted to have that sense of fun in horror, but also make it go places that it normally doesnt go, if we do our job right. Hopefully, we will end up doing that."
http://collider.com/the-strain-season-2-guillermo-del-toro-interview/
"When I was a kid, horror series were fun. Kolchak would go out to a junkyard and face a zombie, entirely alone at midnight, and youd go, Why are you going there alone, in the middle of the night, to put a bag of salt in the mouth of the zombie? Why cant you bring somebody else, or call the police? I wanted to have that sense of fun in horror, but also make it go places that it normally doesnt go, if we do our job right. Hopefully, we will end up doing that."
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