Yes because Turn 10 only built all the under pinning that Horizon uses and they also helped develop Horizon 1 & 2...
This same argument came up with the first Horizon yet people seem to forget that Motorsport runs at double the frame rate locked.
Forza Horizon 2: DF Frame Rate Test - It's a Doozy...
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Yes because Turn 10 only built all the under pinning that Horizon uses and they also helped develop Horizon 1 & 2...
This same argument came up with the first Horizon yet people seem to forget that Motorsport runs at double the frame rate locked.
Uh, the massive differences in foliage density?
If you had a problem with that post, why didn't you... uh, y'know... bring it up in the actual thread in which I actually mde the post? It's not like it isn't right there on the front page still :/
Way to set the bar low. PG did a good job but calling them "god tier"...smh
Could you please point out the particular people in this thread that are happy with 30 fps locked that also attacks "another" game for being 30 fps. Also I don't know why people keep putting the games on equal footing, one is a point to point racer and the other is open world.
MightyHedgehog
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Isn't that a personal opinion, a subjective view? Unless you're willing to provide examples that make what they've achieved seem commonplace or even less than impressive for what hardware it's on, I'd love to hear more. You make it sound like games of the class of FH2 are a dime a dozen. smh indeed
Miles Quaritch
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You're right. Their achievement transcends God tier. They are super mega celestial tier.
Miles Quaritch
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You hope not? So who was your original post accusing people of hypocrisy directed towards?
Dude why are you so down on PG? They are obviously much better than celestial tier, I've also heard rumors that if you blend the disc and put it in water and drink it you transcend into a higher being.
I for one welcome our playground over lords.
House Of Glass
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OMG this post
The nerve of "Percy" to pretend Forza looks the same, but nitpicks Shadow Of Mordor for "Foliage density". Fanboys gonna fanboy
Why would it have to be the same people? It's just strange to see people (Anyone) acting shocked that a game could achieve solid 30FPS.
How far our expectations have dropped that a locked 30fps game is god tier now
it isn't though, the 360 version is a different game with a different engine from a different developer.
StudioTan
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Oh good, so you agree that the differences between the 360 version and the XB1 version are massive. That was the point of my comparison pictures and it confused me when instead of typing "massive difference" you type "compares favourably" which made it seem like you were instead trying to downplay the fact the 360 version looked terrible in comparison.
Sorry for the confusion.
MightyHedgehog
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You made a blanket statement that seems to include specific people in this thread, otherwise why make it when those people weren't present? Who are you then addressing? Painting a rather large brushstroke doesn't help in these sorts of threads where there are obvious and not-so-obvious trolls and console wars ready to break out at any given moment.
As for being shocked...do you remember how bad it was last gen with open world games not being able to maintain framerates? Have you played this game and not come away impressed that it did on top of advancing everything consoles have been able to show up until now? I mean, it sure seems like we've got a whole lot of people who are just very hard to please or are spoiled by PCs that can handle games that ran poorly on consoles by comparison. That, or there are lot of folks who haven't played this game to know what it does and only watched the video in the topic post.
Someone being frustrated at seeing others happy with positive technical analysis of any game should be a sign of how they approach this hobby. And yes, someone bothered by "inconsistent" expectations for games who doesn't also see the necessity of those comments coming from the same people hasn't thought that through.
What the hell happened to people's standards that hitting 30 fps is considered some sort of achievement? 30 fps hasn't been acceptable for racing games since the Dreamcast came out. Patting the developers on the back sends a bad precedent when the framerate is still very poor for the type of game that it is.
Rex Griswold
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This thread is incredible. Am I not worthy of my PC because I'm okay with Skyrim running at 30fps in 1080p, regardless of the 4k textures, massively increased foliage, vastly improved effects, and overhauled models and meshes?
It's not quite the same, I know, but it's equally pathetic.
The image quality in Horizon 2 is deliciously clean, and the frame rate is delightfully smooth, I don't understand why we can't appreciate that.
It's not quite the same, I know, but it's equally pathetic.
The image quality in Horizon 2 is deliciously clean, and the frame rate is delightfully smooth, I don't understand why we can't appreciate that.
Daffy Duck
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I'll take games like Driveclub and Horizon 2 at 30 fps any day of the week.
Why do some keep saying this? Not everyone's standards are the same.
The game is a blast to play and looks great. More enjoyable than a good number of 60 FPS racing games I've played.
Spottiettiedop
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Basically.
If something is locked at 30 guess what the average will be.
Yeah well that's what happens when you talk about console tech related things. I'm surprised DF threads aren't the equivalent of gas chambers around here. Maybe the Forza series brings out these kinds of things more.
BiGBoSSMk23
A company being excited for their new game is a huge slap in the face to all the fans that liked their old games.
The way the cars slide around the tracks reminds me of something like Ridge Racer or Twisted Metal.
The visuals are kind of cartoony/stylized aren't they?
The visuals are kind of cartoony/stylized aren't they?
-tetsuo-
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You clearly did not know what you were doing in Blur. That game was amazing and hardly luck dependent, if at all.
walltowall
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Soooo....ummm Yeah. That Forza Horizon 2 is one hell of a good looking game.............
MightyHedgehog
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Stylized, sure, but no more than any other racer I can think of. The whole mood of the game is one of fun and one of the few that keeps me smiling a lot. If you haven't played it in person, you ought to as Youtube videos compress too much and drop all of the color, shading, and detail from the real deal. As for the sliding, well, they are going excessively fast and have lots of room to move from side to side, so you'll see lots of lateral drifts and such, yeah.
Portugeezer
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Great work locking 1080p30 with beautiful graphics considering it's on XB1.
-tetsuo-
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... Really?
You know that's not what I'm trying to say...
When people say a game runs 60fps and give an example of say, CoD, it's not to same as saying it is like Forza 5. Last of Us runs 30fps if you want to be quick about it, but the framerate doesn't feel as smooth.
60fps vs. 30fps is huge for myself personally, but a fixed 30fps is something you can get used to very quickly.
So saying Horizon 2 is an achievement to be locked at 30fps the way it does is a big achievement.
And that's not even for a Bone game. Locked framerates are difficult to pull off on a game so open with so many players/things possibly happening at once.
Mugatu
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Wow. I hope you aren't being serious with that comment.
Anyway, people generally all agree that it's a great looking game that plays great as well - why the need to argue and nitpick everything on here? And no, I don't expect an actual answer to that - I know why but it's just frustrating because Playground did such a great job.
Allez Phill
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Did these people get banned because of this thread? I started reading Gaf in 2009 (The GT vs Forza thread) and man, people really know how to fight.
HocusPocus
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I love this game.
REMEMBER CITADEL
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The physics engine runs at 360 Hz, just like in every Forza game since FM2.
Horizon is the game Playground wanted to make, it is their own game.
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Nah, too easy.
Sorry I thought you were saying this game was only averaging 30 not locked to it.
walltowall
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Forza Horizon 2. That's what.
TheAdmiester
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Not even in the slightest.
A game was good on the console that's cool to hate, shit spirals out of control.
My new room mate said this. I told him it probably looks that way because I have a good calibrated monitor where as his PS4's Destiny had its Mars look blue.
He left the room for a moment, I went and changed his colour space/TV settings and lowered contrast etc. to get him a clean image. Played Destiny for a bit, said it looked nicer, then looked back at Forza Horizon 2 and retracted his words, said it looked amazing.
I mean, I can understand that example. So unless you have been comparing Forza Horizon 2 with Driveclub's washed out videos with the gritty realism look, I don't get how you can say Horizon 2 is cartoony.
StudioTan
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Portugeezer
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I read this a few times and still didn't understand your point about your friends TV settings and what a fantasy game like destiny has to do with fh2 and drive club.
Alcoholikaust
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20 minutes showing the game off to a few friends that were over at the house: sold 3 XB1's and 5 copies of the game!
No, and....well....erm...no, really.
Can't say that I've been able to spin my car through 360 degrees whilst still going around a corner at full speed in FH2, and I think you need to rejigger your idea of what "cartoony" is if you think Forza Horizon 2 looks cartoony.