ethomaz
Banned
While it was bad and not in the same quality than premiums... to play the simplified interiors was fine to play.
"GT7 is going to be a game that matches the very era that we live in, in 2015/2016"
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ethomaz
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Fiasco? I thought it was extremely successful (at least GT5).
No, "standard" cars, no 100 different versions of Honda Civics PLEASE.
It sold well, but 5 had a really really bad launch. Load times were atrocious, online was pretty bad. You barely made any money for winning races, lack of events, menus were horrible.
Many many updates later and it finally became the game it should have been at launch.
It sold well, but 5 had a really really bad launch. Load times were atrocious, online was pretty bad. You barely made any money for winning races, lack of events, menus were horrible.
Many many updates later and it finally became the game it should have been at launch.
they could bring it out in 2015 if they wanted to. Even if that was just a prologue based on GT6 with some tweaks. Bearing in mind Driveclub was originally a launch title, 2015 would be two years later.
If they want to piss about and make things perfect, they're perfectly entitled to make GT8 a couple of years later. They need to get to 2 year release cycles
If they want to piss about and make things perfect, they're perfectly entitled to make GT8 a couple of years later. They need to get to 2 year release cycles
EmptySpace
Banned
i never understood cockpit view.
it's like looking through a window that's inside another window.
bumper view for life.
matrix-cat
Member
I don't want PD to throw out the old models, I want them to make them Premiums. Get some cockpit views in there, give those cars the care they deserve. My taste in cars is heavily skewed towards older, classic stuff, and I don't feel like I'm being catered to at all with GT5 and 6 because all the old cars in those games look like complete shit. They introduced the Alfa Romeo I drive back in GT4, but they haven't updated it since. It still looks like this in GT6, and presumably it's still going to look like that in GT7. Fuck that noise. Make it a Premium or take it out so I don't have to look at it any more.
EGOMON
Member
I believe in PD people like to hate on GT but what these guys accomplished technically on PS3 is above and beyond everyone else heck I saw some GT6 pictures on the next-gen racing comparison thread and it was going head to head with new-gen racers just imagine what PD wizards can do on PS4
Ze_Pershing
Member
Open world?? Why would anyone even think that? It's GT ffs.
brotkasten
Member
I know this is selfish, but I feel like none of what he says matters until the game officially supports the Logitech wheels (Driving Force GT, G25 and G27). Playing GT with a pad is simply not an option for me.
Well if the fucking moon isn't out of bounds then why not? Lol.
EmptySpace
Banned
i played gt5 with the driving force gt, though.
edit: oh you mean sony requiring chips. then the onus is on logitech, no?
GlamFM
Banned
You would get a more consistent package and not a weird Frankenstein Racing Game.
I actually think that goes a long way.
But of course I also think that PD should just redo all the cars which does not seem to be a option.
It was successful as a traditional GT racer but it also was missing many features they wanted to put in but delayed from launch or failed to deliver at all. So if they really want to make it a "current" game they will need to deliver on all those things from the beginning.
That said, as long as they keep the oil change trick and car washes, it will be GT for me.
NullPointer
Member
The rub is that its the opposite of verisimilitude and provides less than zero immersion, which are at odds with a game that otherwise aims for authenticity both in the driving model and in visuals. It makes the game feel inconsistent and jarring, both in the cabin and out.
Its playable, sure, but it feels lazy. It is lazy.
EmptySpace
Banned
which racer had as complete a feature set as gt last gen?
BloodMoney
Banned
oh and PD, after playing Driveclub, you need to mimic their dash cam... best racing view in gaming.
I've never understood bumper view. It is a racing game, not a street luge simulator.
Hood cam for life.
after trying it in DC for a while, I think I'd be ok with gyro steering.
brotkasten
Member
That's right, but the PS4 does not officially support the Logitech USB wheels that were supported on the PS3 or PS2. And I'm not going to spend another $300 or $400 on a new wheel that is supported. I'm obviously not blaming PD for the lack of support, but I don't care who's responsible either. All I know is as of right now, I can't use my expensive wheel with GT7 and that seriously bums me out, because my PS3 turned into a GT machine, once 5 came out.
ethomaz
Banned
jimmythepage
Member
So an overhyped advertising campaign like "Become Driver", and release a graphically excellent incomplete game forcing the players on DLC (almost already in the disk) with little guarantee to have some more fun with the assets they already experienced in the released game.
Yes, I've been burned from destiny, kinda regret my digital copy.
EmptySpace
Banned
bumper view in gt is the same height as hood cam without the hood, albeit positioned in the front of the car.
I'll allow it just this once.
It's about the missing things they wanted but failed to put in not what other games did. Liveries for one. Better online racing with clubs/leagues. Stronger course generator and course sharing. A more meaningful SP "campaign" mode. Fully using some of the licenses they had like Top Gear track and Nascar. We have all seen that 2005 powerpoint slide and heard Kaz talk about the things they wanted to do.
To be fair GT hit a lot of bullet points but that's all they did do imho.
NASCAR wasn't fleshed out enough, rally was bare bones as well as karting.
They even gave a rolling start on the top gear test track. Leaderboards were poor too.
Sounds like I'm ragging on GT but I do have fond memories of it growing up. I just think they pushed to far in many different directions and the team were spread too thin. Sony wanting a product out of the door put a boot up there arses but I don't think that helped.
GT 6 and Kaz became a fucking astronomer then lol.
Bah.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Yep, I'm hyped to hell and back.
ethomaz
Banned
I will try to answer that.
In real life the view you have from interior is more like the bumper open view than the interior view in GT games.
The sensation of bumper view in GT game is the most close to real life cockpit view in my opinion.
The interior view in GT seems way limited while in real life it is not... it is open and you have a widen view of everything.
gundamkyoukai
Member
Well you should give up since i remember reading there going to be in it .
I know everyone wants the favorite to be a premium but that going to take years before that happens .
GT4 had over 600 cars no way they can get all of them to be premium in 3 years and that is not counting the newer cars .
Red Chocobo
Banned
Hood cam only exists for a few cars in the GT series. The rest are on the roof of the car for some odd reason.
NullPointer
Member
It is, but if you're not playing with a wheel you can get more immersion and more feedback in seeing the position of the steering wheel. If I used a wheel instead of the controller I'd probably use the hood/bumper views in game.
Omnii-chan
Member
Nope. Not doing this again. Sorry but I've been let down too many times with this series.
I'm sick of the graphics being touted as the most beautiful ever and when you get in a game the trees on the side of the track look like PS2 models.
I'm sick of the same god damn tyre screech.
I'm sick of all the cars having the same low sounding hum for an engine noise.
I'm sick of the slow loading menus and tracks.
I'm sick of annoying races like the go karts which you have to do to proceed in the game, give me choices!
I'm sick of waiting so many years for sequels.
I'm sick of the stupid on rails AI cars latching onto the ass of my car and not letting go until we need to turn and they spin me out.
Also what the hell does this even mean?
I'm sick of the graphics being touted as the most beautiful ever and when you get in a game the trees on the side of the track look like PS2 models.
I'm sick of the same god damn tyre screech.
I'm sick of all the cars having the same low sounding hum for an engine noise.
I'm sick of the slow loading menus and tracks.
I'm sick of annoying races like the go karts which you have to do to proceed in the game, give me choices!
I'm sick of waiting so many years for sequels.
I'm sick of the stupid on rails AI cars latching onto the ass of my car and not letting go until we need to turn and they spin me out.
Also what the hell does this even mean?
ethomaz
Banned
EmptySpace
Banned
in a sense you are talking about their ambition and the end-product.
at the same time, they've accomplished more than any other single racer last gen. their competition didn't even have a night cycle.
it's not even close.
for one, gt only had 140 devs working. there's that limitation.
given that, they've accomplished way more than a 200-person team can.
i don't think anyone was expecting the other racing modes to be as fleshed out as what you'll find in a 60-dollar nascar game or a 60-dollar rally racer game.
yes, they could've been better but you'd be arsed to find another 60-dollar racing title that has all those things that gt5/6 had.
by 'not doing this again' you mean getting caught up in the hype, or buying the game?
The former I'd agree with. They need to address many issues from previous games. But the latter just sounds shortsighted. If they *do* address all the issues you talk about, it could be an amazing game which you should want to play.
The former I'd agree with. They need to address many issues from previous games. But the latter just sounds shortsighted. If they *do* address all the issues you talk about, it could be an amazing game which you should want to play.
I think Driveclub's dash cam view is excellent. It's a good interior view but without the dash bits to obstruct the track.
RukusProvider
Banned
Played gt5 for the first few months it was released. Still shocked they released a game in that state.
Red Chocobo
Banned
I agree with your other points. But this one is BS. They changed the tyre screech a lot through several updates. It sounds quite realistic in GT6.
PjotrStroganov
Member
Audiovidual inconsistency. I can choose not to drive them. I can't choose not to drive against them. Give me an option to completely bypass standards, and I'll be happy.
sublimit
Banned
That they are targeting a 2015/2016 release.Or at least for the Prologue (if there'll be one)
JackAubrey
Member
What I want - as a huge fan of the first four GT games - is a smooth locked frame rate. I'll take 60fps for Gran Turismo 7 over photo mode, car washes, light jazz, rain and driving on the moon.
If GT7 has to be a smaller game than GT5 then so be it. I'd happily strip away all the silliness for a game that had car handling and a smooth locked frame rate as the priorities. GT3 got this right. And while GT4 was good one could already see it lacking focus, I remember remarking that I was worried where GT5 might lead.
Maybe this isn't a franchise that can come back from the brink. I'd like to think it could. Sony is lacking a flagship racing game and it could really do with one to fill out the roster. It would be a shame that this gap would have to be filled by third party games.
If GT7 has to be a smaller game than GT5 then so be it. I'd happily strip away all the silliness for a game that had car handling and a smooth locked frame rate as the priorities. GT3 got this right. And while GT4 was good one could already see it lacking focus, I remember remarking that I was worried where GT5 might lead.
Maybe this isn't a franchise that can come back from the brink. I'd like to think it could. Sony is lacking a flagship racing game and it could really do with one to fill out the roster. It would be a shame that this gap would have to be filled by third party games.