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Pachter Predicts: Xbox One outsold PS4 in September (dance, you puppets)
- Thread starter Guevara
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You are a day early.
I tell my average consumer friends that multiplats look better on ps4 (which is true) and guess what, they tell their friends, and they tell their friends
"But I wanted a Xbox Tony"
"But we all have ps4's and the games look better on ps4 don't be dumb"
A simple conversation that goes on between 'average gamers' all the time
Pathfinder
Member
Peer pressure is a timeless pastime.
But Tony, what about the Feel of First Class? Anyway, "average gamers" should be more than happy with Workingman's Graphics.
Kidding, I agree with what you said.
killatopak
Member
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Kazuma Kiryu
Member
I keep reading these "exclusives are super important" comments, together with other posts like "X1 lineup quality is way better", but month after month, PS4 keeps on being #1 in sales.
I don't know, something doesn't quite add up...
Pathfinder
Member
To be fair, we haven't had any real killer exclusives yet. All exclusives so far have been remakes, or have been just alright. Me personally, nothing has blown my socks off. I expect that to happen in 2015 and 2016.
Neuromancer
Member
Less than 24 hours before Mr. Pachter shows up in this thread and serves us each a plate of fresh crow. Get your forks and knives ready now, ladies and gentlemen, because it's gonna be a long meal.
Oooo. Oooo. Will Penello be here too?
It's gonna happen. Better get ready boys and girls!
HocusPocus
Member
I would believe this more if the console had more p's. I think the lack of p's in the console makes this rumor to be highly suspect!
mejin
Member
The Artisan
Member
has the xbone ever outsold the Ps4 in any given/month time period?
and if so, did it have anything to do with a shortage of Ps4s or was it pure competition?
and if so, did it have anything to do with a shortage of Ps4s or was it pure competition?
But do you tell them that Xbox gets more firmware updates? I imagine that would make most people buy Xbox.
Neuromancer
Member
Last December, Xbox One outsold the PS4 in the US, most likely because the PS4 was supply constrained.
Soccer4life
Banned
you mean WW or just NPD?
NPD : XB1 had december 2013 but that was because of PS4 supply.
WW: Won't happen . . . ever.
Of course he will. It would redeem his career that's been full of many, many blunders.
HA!!!!
If you think having slightly better graphics is the reason why the PS4 is selling so well you're frakking crazy.
If that's the case, why did the PS2 the weakest of all the systems sell the best? In the end graphics aren't what sways most people (Talking consoles only) and you are crazy to think that it does.
freakzilla3000
Junior Member
I predict he's wrong...
TheDarkKnight774
Member
Man because of this bold prediction it's heightened my anticipation for tomorrow. No matter the outcome it'll be a fun read
The Artisan
Member
OK, so it was never the case that the xbone outdid the Ps4 in terms of popularity
so worldwide, the Ps4 has consistently outsold the xbone ever since they were released... aside from that ONE week it was reported the xbone outsold it in the UK because of the price cut?
Soccer4life
Banned
Sony announced 10m PS4 SOLD through back in Augest.
Last we heard from MS is 5m SHIPPED X1 units.
So in reality PS4 is 2:1 and increasing the gap as we speak.
Neuromancer
Member
Yes, although that's worldwide. UK and US the gap isn't as great, but it's still probably insurmountable for MS. That said, winning September NPDs could be the beginning of a great comeback story.
captainraincoat
Banned
I think the no games line comes from the fact it's a nice big list but only a handful I'd be excited about
But people have different tastes so if you love every game then good for you....enjoy being broke
SwiftDeath
Member
You do realize that the PS2 released 13 months earlier in NA, and like 17 months earlier WW? Thus giving the PS2 a far larger library at the time the Xbox launched and besides that was one of the cheapest DVD players on the market at the time, not to mention being cheaper at least initially [iirc]
The XB1 versus PS4 comparison has none of that. Both have blu-ray players, both came out within a week of each other, and the game libraries while different are very very close compared to previous generations. There is likely some effect however small that the power difference plays as it has been shown a great amount of exposure due to the articles on it.
TL;DR Trying to correlate PS2 selling the best as somehow proof that the power of a system is irrelevant across all comparisons is dumb and illogical
Neuromancer
Member
I've got the 'PS4s got no games' argument pretty much down to a science.
1. Start with all PS4 games
2. Take out all the indie downloadable games, because they're not real games
3. Take out all the multiplatform games, since they're on other systems and don't count
4. Take out any remaining PS exclusive, non indie games that you personally aren't interested in for whatever reason
If you follow steps 1-4 carefully you should be left with ~0 games, thus proving the maxim.
Soccer4life
Banned
You mean NPD comeback, because WW X1 is almost dead everywhere. my very optimistic prediction would put it at 40m LTD.
SpartanN92
Banned
Once the ball gets rolling on Halo and Gears, Xboxs will be flying off the shelves.
TheFurizzlyBear
Member
Lol that sounds about right. Is this going to be worked in to a high school curriculum at some point?
Microsoft hopes
BlackBuzzard
Banned
And then its wait till(insert game here)
Face it outside the UK,US and Canada it was DOA.
Woah woah woah...woah there.
EdReedFan20
Member
Have they said what the special content is yet?
I can just imagine Pachter dressed up as a waiter with a vindictive smile on his face.
Really though, if it happens it will be one of the greatest moments in GAF history.
captainraincoat
Banned
As rough as that sounds it's not far off...The indie titles this year have been pretty average. .third party has been pretty sparse and the other first party titles I'm interested in are broken (driveclub) or not released yet (lbp3)
The highlights of my year have been infamous..destiny and shadow of mordor
I hope there are no driveclub like issues with lbp3
And where the he'll is planetside? ?
This equation needs to be carved in stone, frozen in carbonate and displayed on a mantle somewhere because it's so painfully true.
Shall we call it The Neuromancer Theorem or Neuromancer's Constant?
captainraincoat
Banned
So will the forum implode if patcher is correct???
Aquamarine
Member
More well-informed GAFfers have ruled that out already (check the NPD Predictions thread). It's not happening...so there's no point in making hypotheticals.
LowEndTorque
Member
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This is a late response, but oh well.
I think a lot of the time, when people highlight the PS2 as being a golden age of gaming, it's often mostly because the PS2 was always their first choice of console regardless. So if today the PS4 were to outsell other consoles 10:1, PS4 owners would likely be ecstatic because they'd rarely ever see any releases outside of first party games, for any console they don't own. I'd say the SNES/Genesis era was the best time in history to be a gamer personally. The PS2 era was just the best time in history to be an exclusively Sony gamer.
Now as someone that owned all consoles that gen (DC/PS2/GCN/Xbox), I honestly don't think it was such a great thing that Sony ran away with it so easily, especially not initially when they had a very weak line-up in comparison to the Dreamcast, but had no problems killing it anyway. At the time, I was enjoying things that Sega was doing to push console gaming forwards, by including a modem, establishing an online network (we had DreamArena over here rather than SegaNet). I was playing Quake 3 online with my friends on PC, playing Phantasy Star Online and communicating with players in Japan, taking part in online time trial competitions in Sonic Adventure, downloading small DLC content to the VMU, etc... and yet due to the console's failure to grab more of a market, these things weren't managing to become more of a standard as Sony didn't require them to win. This continued when Microsoft came along with the original Xbox and brought with it a persistent online network, and amazing experiences like Halo 2, Project Gotham 2, Rainbow Six 3 and more. It wasn't until the 360 came along and Xbox Live became too big to ignore, that Sony began to get its act together in regards to online gaming, and by the time they did, their OS choices had prevented it from truly competing with the XBL feature set the 360 had, as they had only really prepared to compete with the XBL functionality of the previous gen.
In a way I feel like this has continued this gen as well, with PS4's OS and online functionality becoming more competitive with that of the 360 (such as having party chat finally), but falls significantly behind what the current Xbox OS now offers. Honestly, I'd hate to think where we'd be with console online gaming if Xbox Live hadn't picked up where Sega left off. We may be closer to Nintendo's level of online functionality across the board, then what we have today. A lot of what PS4 owners like about the PS4 would probably be very different had the PS3 "Dreamcasted" the Xbox 360 last gen.
Devilgunman
Member
If Pachter is wrong by a wide margin, can we come down to consensus that he is very bad at his job? I mean, he has many clients that involve directly in gaming business and probably has direct sources from retailers. It should be very easy for him to get his prediction very close to the real number.
innervision961
Member
We better hope he is wrong. According to facebook, all these blood moons + ebola + a correct pachter prediction completes the prophecy.
Parmenides
Banned
PS1/PS2 -> were powerful consoles at reasonable prices back in the day (1994/2000)
Sony, Squaresoft, etc shared the same vision, PS1/PS2 completely dominated the domestic market, Japanese games dominated the world, there were tons of great exclusives ...
PS3/360 -> western multiplats dominate the console market, and 360 is cheaper and runs multiplats better ... MS defeats Sony and Nintendo in US/UK.
Obviously PS is a huge global brand, so the PS3 is going to hit 90 M early next year.
For example, the PS3 got 58% of its sales from outside US+JP, and 25% of its sales outside US+EU+JP.
PS4/XBO -> For the same price, PlayStation console runs multiplats better... PS4 is outselling the XBO 2-to-1.
Aquamarine
Member
Just read the thread, man. Or read my posts, at least. I've said a lot on this already.
A meteorologist doesn't look at a hurricane a few miles from the city and predict sunny weather
captainraincoat
Banned
Ps1 dominated because Sega were leaking cash and Nintendo went down the cartridge route which 3rd parties hated
The ps2 was hideously overpriced and launched with no competition
If anything I think competition has improved things from a gaming perspective and the fact we have 2 strong Consoles is a good thing gaming wise
The ps2 was hideously overpriced and launched with no competition
If anything I think competition has improved things from a gaming perspective and the fact we have 2 strong Consoles is a good thing gaming wise
BlackBuzzard
Banned
U serious?