Marvel's Phase 3 Announced: includes Black Panther, Captain Marvel

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So for likely villians in Phase 3 we have

Cap Civil War - Crossbones, Cap vs Tony
Guardians 2 - Ultron?
Black Panther - Ulysses Klaw
Thor Ragnarok - Surtur
Inhumans - ?
Doctor Strange - Dormammu?
Captain Marvel - ?
Infinity War - Thanos.

Any ideas / theories

I am betting on GotG 2's villain being the Universal Church of Truth. It works perfectly for introducing Adam Warlock...who I think they're going to want to introduce for Infinity War. Plus they will have established Doctor Strange and all that crazy magic stuff the prior year. It just makes a lot of sense.
 
Thor 2 introduced an Infinity Stone
it had a purpose unlike IM3

This is a really dangerous line of thinking and is the big drawback of the (generally awesome) MCU.

These movies need to work as movies first. I don't want any of these films to have "doesn't advance the MCU plot" ever listed as a negative.
 
This is a really dangerous line of thinking and is the big drawback of the (generally awesome) MCU.

These movies need to work as movies first. I don't want any of these films to have "doesn't advance the MCU plot" ever listed as a negative.
Seriously. Iron Man 2 feels like an example of a movie that was almost solely trying to advance the MCU, and it's by far one of the weakest movies in the series IMO.
 
So for likely villians in Phase 3 we have

Cap Civil War - Crossbones, Cap vs Tony
Guardians 2 - Ultron?
Black Panther - Ulysses Klaw
Thor Ragnarok - Surtur
Inhumans - ?
Doctor Strange - Dormammu?
Captain Marvel - ?
Infinity War - Thanos.

Any ideas / theories

For Captain Marvel, some options:

Ghazi Rashid
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Not the most interesting option, he was created solely to be powerful enough to take her on. He is just cruelty in a suit, so I'm not sure what else they could do with him...


Moonstone
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Lot of grey area here. Still, she's the direct counter to Carol as far as 'super powered woman'. Might even do the 'stolen identity' story concept. Also might help lay some groundwork for potential Thunderbolts later down the line.

Cru
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By far the most interesting, but would require so much groundwork to be laid. Would also potentially mean that the first step has Carol taking on the Brood, and I'm not sure if Marvel should go with 'swarms of enemies' again. Still, there is a lot they could do with Cru.


Whoever they go with, they really need to show Carol's power. They've already stated that she's going to be the most powerful hero in the MCU, but I doubt they'll give her Binary level powers.
 
So for likely villians in Phase 3 we have

Cap Civil War - Crossbones, Cap vs Tony
Guardians 2 - Ultron?
Black Panther - Ulysses Klaw
Thor Ragnarok - Surtur
Inhumans - ?
Doctor Strange - Dormammu?
Captain Marvel - ?
Infinity War - Thanos.

Any ideas / theories


Who else would be a better choice?

and I say Man-Ape for BP
this could also clear up the talks in the AoS thread of Ward possibly becoming Grim Reaper down the line
 
By far the most interesting, but would require so much groundwork to be laid. Would also potentially mean that the first step has Carol taking on the Brood, and I'm not sure if Marvel should go with 'swarms of enemies' again. Still, there is a lot they could do with Cru.
Doesn't Fox have the rights to the Brood, since they're connected to the X-Men?
 
For Captain Marvel, some options:

Ghazi Rashid
Hr4P2gem.jpg

Not the most interesting option, he was created solely to be powerful enough to take her on. He is just cruelty in a suit, so I'm not sure what else they could do with him...


Moonstone
CsdhLfum.jpg

Lot of grey area here. Still, she's the direct counter to Carol as far as 'super powered woman'. Might even do the 'stolen identity' story concept. Also might help lay some groundwork for potential Thunderbolts later down the line.

Cru
3nW0T5em.jpg

By far the most interesting, but would require so much groundwork to be laid. Would also potentially mean that the first step has Carol taking on the Brood, and I'm not sure if Marvel should go with 'swarms of enemies' again. Still, there is a lot they could do with Cru.


Whoever they go with, they really need to show Carol's power. They've already stated that she's going to be the most powerful hero in the MCU, but I doubt they'll give her Binary level powers.

They could also straight jack Mar-Vell villains.

Nitro
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Dr. Minerva
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Yon-Rogg.
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Or any other Kree.
 
This is a really dangerous line of thinking and is the big drawback of the (generally awesome) MCU.

These movies need to work as movies first. I don't want any of these films to have "doesn't advance the MCU plot" ever listed as a negative.

I think Guardians and Winter Solider prove that having both is a huge plus.
 
I think Guardians and Winter Solider prove that having both is a huge plus.

Winter Soldier yes - sure. I loved Guardians but the MCU stuff shoved into it felt very out of place and obvious. It was very distracting. Thanos adds nothing to that movie specifically.
 
Winter Soldier yes - sure. I loved Guardians but the MCU stuff shoved into it felt very out of place and obvious. It was very distracting. Thanos adds nothing to that movie specifically.

He adds nothing in the same sense that the Emperor added nothing in The Empire Strikes Back.
 
I suggest everyone to catch up with Thor : The Dark World. It's a really good buddy cop action movie, and the ending has a lot of repercussion on the MCU.
 
I'm still not buying that Loki's Staff is an Infinity Stone. It's the same blue color as the Tesseract, while GOTG and the Thanos Infinity War pic shows they're different colors of the spectrum:

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I believe the staff is shown in the promo just to link its connection to the Tesseract, as Fury says, "It's powered by the Tesseract." Until Feige officially states otherwise, I'll go by the evidence from the films.
 
I'm still not buying that Loki's Staff is an Infinity Stone. It's the same blue color as the Tesseract, while GOTG and the Thanos Infinity War pic shows they're different colors of the spectrum:

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I believe the staff is shown in the promo just to link its connection to the Tesseract, as Fury says, "It's powered by the Tesseract." Until Feige officially states otherwise, I'll go by the evidence from the films.

So, the tesseract is the mind gem AND the space gem? Cause the tesseract could open portals and loki's staff could control hawkeye
 
I though they confirmed that Loki's staff was one of the gems. I don't know if they intended that in Avengers (in fact I doubt it) because they mention the staff being the same power as the Tesseract. But I also don't think they wanted another 3 movies with the gems being the mcguffin so they are making it one of the gems, which works fine.
 
I though they confirmed that Loki's staff was one of the gems. I don't know if they intended that in Avengers (in fact I doubt it) because they mention the staff being the same power as the Tesseract. But I also don't think they wanted another 3 movies with the gems being the mcguffin so they are making it one of the gems, which works fine.

Here's my theory on the intro of the other Infinity Stones will be introduced:

Dr. Strange: The Eye of Agamotto will be an Infinity Stone. I think that's pretty obvious.

Another Stone will be introduced in Inhumans or Captain Marvel to explain how they get their powers. Perhaps the Terrigen Mists are derived from a Stone?

Black Panther: In the comics, a meteor crashes in Wakanda, which is the source of the country's vibranium. What if an Infinity Stone is lodged in the metorite, which is then the source of the vibranium's near indestructible quality?
 
I though they confirmed that Loki's staff was one of the gems. I don't know if they intended that in Avengers (in fact I doubt it) because they mention the staff being the same power as the Tesseract. But I also don't think they wanted another 3 movies with the gems being the mcguffin so they are making it one of the gems, which works fine.

I thought it just had the same energy reading as the Tesseract or something? If they really need a way out of that, they could just say all the gems have the same reading
 
I though they confirmed that Loki's staff was one of the gems. I don't know if they intended that in Avengers (in fact I doubt it) because they mention the staff being the same power as the Tesseract. But I also don't think they wanted another 3 movies with the gems being the mcguffin so they are making it one of the gems, which works fine.
Yeah I think your idea is probably right, frees up more movies to be non-gem based and luckily it makes perfect sense that the sceptre is the mind gem. As for the colour and hell even power, I think its just going to be dampened by the actual sceptre itself so Thanos wasn’t giving Loki an infinity gem with its untapped power but a nerfed version that helps him get his hands on another gem.
 
Is Marvel going to release an HD version of the Infinity Wars teaser trailer? Actually, if they recorded the event, I'd rather have that with the crowd reaction. That crowd eruption adds so much to the gauntlet reveal.
 
Winter Soldier yes - sure. I loved Guardians but the MCU stuff shoved into it felt very out of place and obvious. It was very distracting. Thanos adds nothing to that movie specifically.

He has as much to add to Guardians as the Emperor does to A New Hope. Thanos is more naturally a part of Guardians than he is Avengers.
 
I thought it just had the same energy reading as the Tesseract or something? If they really need a way out of that, they could just say all the gems have the same reading

In Avengers, Cap says the staff works alot like a Hydra weapon and Fury states that the staff is powered by the cube.
 
I'm also confused as to how the staff could possibly be an infinity stone.

Both the tesseract and staff are blue, right? Sure they lingered on it a lot in the teaser but it doesn't match up with the gems we see on the gauntlet. There are 6 gems in the comics, but apparently only 5 in the MCU. Either the Soul Gem or the Mind Gem are getting the boot.

Purple - Power - Orb (GOTG)
Red - Reality - Aether (Thor: TDW)
Blue - Space? - Tesseract (Avengers)
Green - Mind or Soul? - Eye of Agamotto? (Doctor Strange?)
Yellow - Time? - ???

Ideally, the Mind/Soul gem could be the eye appearing in Doctor Strange, and the Time gem typically just appears when the other gems are collected, or it could be done that way at least. I don't see any other way they can fit a time theme into a movie, or it could happen in Infinity War Part I.
 
Winter Soldier yes - sure. I loved Guardians but the MCU stuff shoved into it felt very out of place and obvious. It was very distracting. Thanos adds nothing to that movie specifically.
thanos always been apart of cosmic marvel and has crossed paths with the guardians several times before, infact theres a storyline going on right now between thanos and the guardians having to do with the IGs
 
I'm also confused as to how the staff could possibly be an infinity stone.

Both the tesseract and staff are blue, right? Sure they lingered on it a lot in the teaser but it doesn't match up with the gems we see on the gauntlet. There are 6 gems in the comics, but apparently only 5 in the MCU. Either the Soul Gem or the Mind Gem are getting the boot.

Purple - Power - Orb (GOTG)
Red - Reality - Aether (Thor: TDW)
Blue - Space? - Tesseract (Avengers)
Green - Mind or Soul? - Eye of Agamotto? (Doctor Strange?)
Yellow - Time? - ???

Ideally, the Mind gem could be the eye appearing in Doctor Strange, and the Time gem typically just appears when the other gems are collected, or it could be done that way at least.
I would bet money that if Doctor Strange has an infinity gem it will be the Reality gem, makes too much sense considering his power base.
 
I'm also confused as to how the staff could possibly be an infinity stone.

Both the tesseract and staff are blue, right? Sure they lingered on it a lot in the teaser but it doesn't match up with the gems we see on the gauntlet. There are 6 gems in the comics, but apparently only 5 in the MCU. Either the Soul Gem or the Mind Gem are getting the boot.

Purple - Power - Orb (GOTG)
Red - Reality - Aether (Thor: TDW)
Blue - Space? - Tesseract (Avengers)
Green - Mind or Soul? - Eye of Agamotto? (Doctor Strange?)
Yellow - Time? - ???

Ideally, the Mind/Soul gem could be the eye appearing in Doctor Strange, and the Time gem typically just appears when the other gems are collected, or it could be done that way at least. I don't see any other way they can fit a time theme into a movie, or it could happen in Infinity War Part I.

Why do you think there's only 5?

The teaser had the gauntlet with 6 stones

I'm resigned to the fact that the scepter is a stone even though it makes almost no sense in the context of the films, based on color, Thanos just giving it to Loki etc.

EDIT: I think Doctor Strange will use the Soul Gem since I doubt they are gonna use Adam Warlock like he's used in the comics
 
I would bet money that if Doctor Strange has an infinity gem it will be the Reality gem, makes too much sense considering his power base.

I thought Feige already confirmed the Aether was the Reality gem. Maybe I'm wrong.

Why do you think there's only 5?

The teaser had the gauntlet with 6 stones

I'm resigned to the fact that the scepter is a stone even though it makes almost no sense in the context of the films, based on color, Thanos just giving it to Loki etc.

EDIT: I think Doctor Strange will use the Soul Gem since I doubt they are gonna use Adam Warlock like he's used in the comics

Does it have 6? I only see 5. Seems like they've dumped the gem that's normally on the back of the hand.

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I mean, there's pretty clearly 6, one for each finger and then the big one in the middle

I just don't see how the tessaract is supposed to be green but oh well

That doesn't look like a gem to me, just part of the design. We'll see though, maybe there is gonna be a gem that's much bigger than the others or something.
 
I wonder when the inevitable DC vs. Marvel 6 part epic comes out

I'm also confused as to how the staff could possibly be an infinity stone.

Both the tesseract and staff are blue, right? Sure they lingered on it a lot in the teaser but it doesn't match up with the gems we see on the gauntlet. There are 6 gems in the comics, but apparently only 5 in the MCU. Either the Soul Gem or the Mind Gem are getting the boot.

Purple - Power - Orb (GOTG)
Red - Reality - Aether (Thor: TDW)
Blue - Space? - Tesseract (Avengers)
Green - Mind or Soul? - Eye of Agamotto? (Doctor Strange?)
Yellow - Time? - ???

Ideally, the Mind/Soul gem could be the eye appearing in Doctor Strange, and the Time gem typically just appears when the other gems are collected, or it could be done that way at least. I don't see any other way they can fit a time theme into a movie, or it could happen in Infinity War Part I.

Sorry for my ignorance, I haven't read many comics but I'm getting interested. In the comics was Ultron able to time-travel? And if so, was the time gem involved in some way?
 
That doesn't look like a gem to me, just part of the design. We'll see though, maybe there is gonna be a gem that's much bigger than the others or something.

They are not really gems, the tesseract is a huge cube, the one on GOTG is clearly big enough to fit barely on Ronan's hand, the Aether doesn't even have a shape, what we see in the gauntlet is more likely a visual representation of them being absorbed by it
 
That doesn't look like a gem to me, just part of the design. We'll see though, maybe there is gonna be a gem that's much bigger than the others or something.

Its possible…although in the comics there has always been 6, the 6th one is in the same place and there's usually an orange and a yellow

But you could be right
 
They are not really gems, the tesseract is a huge cube, the one on GOTG is clearly big enough to fit barely on Ronan's hand, the Aether doesn't even have a shape, what we see in the gauntlet is more likely a visual representation of them being absorbed by it

They've specifically been calling them stones in the movies instead of gems to that point yeah, but these things aren't really beholden to the laws of physics or anything. When brought together with the gauntlet by someone who knows what they're doing, they probably just form into the shape of gems to be slotted onto the glove.

Its possible…although in the comics there has always been 6, the 6th one is in the same place and there's usually an orange and a yellow

But you could be right

The possibilities are endless!

I love it, will be kinda sad when all this speculation is over.
 
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