Or they can just elect a black guy and candy will fall from the sky and the place would be utopia according to our friend Coins here.
Ferguson: Police Officer Kills 18yo Michael Brown; Protests/Riots Continue
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Or they can just elect a black guy and candy will fall from the sky and the place would be utopia according to our friend Coins here.
Jay Nixon is a democrat.
Yes, because that's what I said. According to you it would be rainbows and puppy dogs if we could just let people burn and pillage the community.
You missed the point.
Destroy the staus quo you mean. It could eventually become better. Make no mistake Ferguson wont be rainbows and puppy dogs for years, if not decades, to come following that plan. By continually buying into a system that means them no good it never will be though.
Then you primary him. This is the problem with modern Dems- they could stand to learn a lesson from the Tea Party and start primarying Dems to move them to the left. Even if you don't win you scare enough of them so you get real Dems instead of fake ones, and I think real Dems would be more electable.
Except that's not how you win general elections. The Tea Party thought they could primary everyone into oblivion and it worked at first, but the Tea Party has been getting their hats handed to them since in elections.
Moving further left is a good way to lose to republican challengers, just like moving to the right is a good way to lose to democrats. Most voters in the country are moderates, and the people you need to win large elections are swing voters.
So the answer to stopping police violence is to vote for black people? Holy shit thank you so much for this solution.
Wrap it up folks, stop the protests. Everything will be fine.
It is amazing to me that cops killing citizens is the fault of the community according to some.
Wrap it up folks, stop the protests. Everything will be fine.
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It is amazing to me that cops killing citizens is the fault of the community according to some.
Carpe Libertatem
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Ferguson is already part of Saint Louis County. Unless you mean that the municipal government of Ferguson would "collapse" and Ferguson would just become unincorporated like south Saint Louis County, which is actually somewhat similar economically, but not racially, to Ferguson (definitely not where the tax money in St. Louis County is primarily coming from).
And frankly Ferguson being run by the County government instead of their current municipal government would probably be better for the community. Municipal governments are not good.
Not true at all, especially in midterms when its only the radicals who vote for the most part.
Moderates are becoming a thing of the past.
Also if the black community took over Ferguson- they could do things to the PD to keep them in line and make it harder for them to harm the community.
No, you're allowed to record video of police in Missouri. At least it says so in the article.
I haven't been watching, but has the news been playing that video clip on repeat all day?
This is just not true. It is nonsense to claim that most the electorate are in the middle of every single issue and to play to this fictional "moderate" voter is one the many issues in American politics simply because that voter doesn't actually exist.
Yeah we had a safety talk at work about it.
Aquamarine
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I'm worried about what will happen on Sunday if they acquit Officer Darren Wilson.
Massive Duck. C.M.
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Best thing that could happen is everyone staying calm and refusing to give certain people what they want
BrokenEchelon
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A friend who has a cop friend also said this on tuesday. He also said the cops were told that they will get 24 hour notice before it is made public.
Nappuccino
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I agree. Keep the protest going but peaceful will be the best thing they could do right now.
Well you know that will not happen.
Ferguson officer Darren Wilson in talks to resign from police force, sources say
http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/20/us/darren-wilson-future/index.html
Yep, then the police just wait it out and everything will go back to normal. Being a black Ferguson resident wanting justice must feel so futile right now.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/20/us/darren-wilson-future/index.html
Yep, then the police just wait it out and everything will go back to normal. Being a black Ferguson resident wanting justice must feel so futile right now.
Massive Duck. C.M.
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Why is that? Everyone knows Wilson won't be punished, it's just a matter of individual levels of despair at this point.
But think whatever you want to
Princess Carl
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Yup, that's how I feel as well. It's always weird to hear people tell another group fighting for something to just let it keep happening to them, but peacefully, as if suddenly this will open the eyes to those committing wrong. The only problem is, there is a high likelihood that those people in fact know they are being unjust; so what is going to make them change their ways with no resistance?
It's all very frustrating...
You mean they not going to fire him because all the people they had to let go because he refused to testify?
Nappuccino
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It sucks, but right now there are far too many (I don't even know how to describe them any more--conservatives, ignorant, idiot, racists--nothing really covers all the bases) primed for the "Rioting Black Community" story. I don't see any way a more violent approach is going to help them.
Aquamarine
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I can just see the Fox News story now.
A peaceful approach isn't going to help them either.
Jmanunknown
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Their will be no "Rioting Black Community" story because their will be no riots period. Jay "I am not a racist" Nixon already declared a state of emergency and the National Guard is on standby. Nothing will happen unless people think this will turn into another Kent State situation which would literally be a nightmare for everyone.
I am positive that by now there are dozens of people in Ferguson, most with no real opinion on the case looking to cause violence and destruction in the area. The only question is if, in the face of all that police presence, they'll still have th balls to try to start something.
It's my belief a lot of the worse incidents caused protesting were instigated by outside influences. It didn't take long at all for out-of-towners to start showing up.
That's a fact. Not a belief.
HP_Wuvcraft
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Comparing it to faux 9/11 outrage is not that far-fetched.
The police instigated most of what happened themselves.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjmD9slQVv8#t=260
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjmD9slQVv8#t=260
My friends on Facebook overwhelmingly accept the cop's story due to the forensic evidence. White, black, asian, hispanic, doesn't seem to matter. It doesn't say much to me other than a shot was fired within the car, and then the victim was later shot in specific places on his body. Of course I have two old friends who became police officers and one who is a fireman, and the circle has remained in touch since high school, so it's not that surprising.
I wonder what the chances are of federal charges/deeper investigation being sought if the cop gets away scot-free.
I wonder what the chances are of federal charges/deeper investigation being sought if the cop gets away scot-free.
IISANDERII
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Voter registration? Come on, you think that people will trust the beauracracy that's part of the same system which outright murders them with impunity?
Two Forensic Pathologist state that Brown had his hands up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWUkBxmFUvU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-cNmH_aNnk
Many witnesses say they saw Brown surrended with his hands up.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/...interview-in-the-shooting-death-of-Mike-Brown
A video released today shows that Brown was shot 130 feet away from Darren's SUV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gJ4b6ITfMs
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Anon Cop Watch says they have proof Darren Wilson is linked to the KKK.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wtsqJL0OW0
They found out one of them was on Facebook at the police department in Ferguson.
https://twitter.com/AnonCopWatch/status/535561306313461760
https://twitter.com/AnonCopWatch/status/534369603699216386
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWUkBxmFUvU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-cNmH_aNnk
Many witnesses say they saw Brown surrended with his hands up.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/...interview-in-the-shooting-death-of-Mike-Brown
A video released today shows that Brown was shot 130 feet away from Darren's SUV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gJ4b6ITfMs
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Other information:
Anon Cop Watch says they have proof Darren Wilson is linked to the KKK.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wtsqJL0OW0
They found out one of them was on Facebook at the police department in Ferguson.
https://twitter.com/AnonCopWatch/status/535561306313461760
https://twitter.com/AnonCopWatch/status/534369603699216386
Yeah. The electorate is either right or left and swing voters don't actually exist.
What?
And who said being in the middle of EVERY SINGLE ISSUE
They still haven't presented their hard evidence yet, so it still remains to be seen.
It's not a good idea to try to ascribe Wilson's actions to overt racism. All that does is try to fit everything into a nice, simple narrative - a narrative which can just as easily be dismantled leaving you with nothing. Wilson doesn't have to be a racist for him to be guilty.
2 Klan guys show up to a rally for the officer. THE OFFICER IS OBVIOUSLY KLAN.
2 guys "check in" at Ferguson PD (probably to counterprotest or mock protestors who are there daily). ITS OBVIOUS THEY ARE WORKING WITH POLICE THE POLICE IS KLAN.
yeeeeeeeeeaaaaah.
No. They're saying he has ties to them, not that he's part of the clan. I stated before, they haven't released their evidence yet, which they believe is undeniable. The best thing to do is to wait until the information is release.
If the information they claim to have is true, then it only proves there's corruption within the police department. I believe he's guilty based on the forensic evidence and witness testimonies.
DonasaurusRex
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same here
The Lamonster
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FYI local folks here are thinking the decision is going to come this weekend.
Hold onto your butts Clayton/Delmar/downtown/Ferguson/Florissant!
Hold onto your butts Clayton/Delmar/downtown/Ferguson/Florissant!
Glorious Ownage
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I've heard that every single weekend. Personally I'm ready for them to just release the decision and quit delaying the inevitable fall out from it.
I disagree here. The best thing to do is not to give them attention until they produce something substantiated. Tensions are high enough right now without shitty speculation from a group who claims they have undeniable proof, yet fails to supply it, while stoking the fires of racial division.
The Anonymous stuff is the ramblings of an idiot, they have nothing and have backtracked on releasing anything more:
http://jasoncwaite.com/kkk-ku-klux-klan-and-ferguson-police-ties-exposed-by-anonymous/
I don't think Anonymous have got one thing right in this so far. Things are charged enough as it is without them wading in again.
In Clayton right next to the metrolink station that is supposedly a designated meeting location. Hurray!
Has there been any discussion about this yet?
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/...illed-148-feet-away-from-Darren-Wilson-s-SUV#
"BREAKING VIDEO: Police Lied. Mike Brown was killed 148 feet away from Darren Wilson's SUV"
I checked the last few pages of this thread, but no one seemed to be mentioning it. Apologies if I just missed something and it's already been beaten to death or something.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/...illed-148-feet-away-from-Darren-Wilson-s-SUV#
"BREAKING VIDEO: Police Lied. Mike Brown was killed 148 feet away from Darren Wilson's SUV"
I checked the last few pages of this thread, but no one seemed to be mentioning it. Apologies if I just missed something and it's already been beaten to death or something.
Anton Sugar
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Haven't had time to read the article, but saw it was by Shaun King. He previously posited that he was around 100 feet away instead of the stated 30-35 feet. What's different now?
And can anything be done with this? I love the work that Shaun King does, but can his findings actually be used, legally?
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