NoA: "there are more great games on Nintendo platforms than anywhere else!"
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Domstercool
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Also a full download too.
MoogleWizard
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Well, when it comes to current gen consoles, there really is no contest.
It's Nintendo, what kind of reaction do you expect? I mean, the Metacritic thing is kind of stupid but it's PR. What company doesn't use reviews to advertise their products?
It's Nintendo, what kind of reaction do you expect? I mean, the Metacritic thing is kind of stupid but it's PR. What company doesn't use reviews to advertise their products?
If the user score is flawed, how come Nintendo games aren't subject to the same problems? At some point you'll have to admit that most of the third party AAA lauded by the press are severly flawed, and users give it a lower score for reasons. In this very forum you can read how these AAA are crippled with bugs, stupid DLC, inane limitations, microtransactions, etc. Your greatest third party games just aren't as great as you think they are, and it shows.
If I can't buy it by itself at retail, it shouldn't count.
Haunted
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and what's the deal with that pineapple amirite
Still think it is funny that VLR scored 88 for 3DS but only 84 for Vita even though the 3DS version had a save game breaking bug and the Vita version looks much cleaner.
So in the end, it only counts for the 3DS for the given criteria, lol.
Rayman Legends also only scored 87 on the Vita but 92 on the Wii U. Ok, the latter has local multiplayer on one console which the former lacks due to being an handheld but 5 whole points? The missing content was announced to be patched in before the release, the Vita has exclusive levels and the same touch gameplay.
So in the end, it only counts for the 3DS for the given criteria, lol.
Rayman Legends also only scored 87 on the Vita but 92 on the Wii U. Ok, the latter has local multiplayer on one console which the former lacks due to being an handheld but 5 whole points? The missing content was announced to be patched in before the release, the Vita has exclusive levels and the same touch gameplay.
OrbitalBeard
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You can't purchase Bayonetta 2 by itself at retail either in North America. In your scenario, neither game should count, which obviously makes no sense.
The game-breaking bug was very likely discovered after most reviews were published.
Hm how come that Sega/Sony downplaying Nintendogames as Kids Games (something that burned itself in the Mind of the Gaming World despite not being true) gets a pass, but when it comes to Nintendo saying "up until yesterday, by criterias we set up ourselfes, we had the best Games ", they are getting trashed left and right?
I mean, this is basic Marketing, the thought that someone would get offended by that is hilarious.
I mean, this is basic Marketing, the thought that someone would get offended by that is hilarious.
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
there's dual screens and auto stereoscopic for VLR 3DS. Think of it that both are what helps the 3DS version to be better than the Vita version.
Still it scored 4 points higher overall without any good reason. And let's not forget how some outlets like to change their review for some titles.
Happened to some other games, too. It just shows that either one console gets rated over- or underrated by the press.
If there wouldn't be the arbitrary retail condition, mobile would probably win against everything as the scores there always seem so inflated.
I don't really think you can say that unless you can prove that those who were okay with what Sony/Sega did in the past are not okay with what Nintendo is doing now. The internet wasn't that big back then so you can't really gauge the difference in reaction between them.
This is true, i was using this as Example for the overall shitting on Nintendo by many People in the Industry, where People were like "They are right", or "they've got a point" and not calling them out for downplaying.
It was probably a Mistake using that particular thing, but this was the first thing that came to my Mind, where it was used for Marketing.
This is quite interesting, that said I don't use metacritic as a personal guide.
Can't say I agree, both the XB1 and PS4 have much better/appealing games for me. Each to their own.
Neff
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Leo's playing it while you're on PS4 and PC.
â Narayan
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Yep. Wii U is the only console that holds any major interest from me these days.
Rhazer Fusion
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Well, there may be more great games on Nintendo systems, but the problem is, most gamers care more about the multiplatform games over the exclusives. If Nintendo had ample third party support, I think they would definitely be a force to be reckoned with. Maybe a little but more power also, but they really need those AAA games if they want to look more enticing to casual gamers.
MegaKungFuRadio
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Never underestimate mankind's lust for conflict.
Truer words...
nothing about marketing is classy.
Tempesta di Fuoco
Banned
That's obvious. The PS4 and X1 are wastelands.
Wow that is an emotional post.
It's worth buying the console based purely on the number of really good games on it. Who cares who makes them?
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
There are strategy games (Pikmin, Fire Emblem), Action-Adventures (Zelda WW, Zelda ALBW, Luigi's Mansion 2), Action-games (Bayonetta 1 & 2), simulations (Animal Crossing), Adventures (Virtue's Last Reward) and fighting games (SMash Bros 3DS / Wii U) on there, too. So while there are definitely some more genres other than those, RPGs, platformers, shooters and rts, but the list shows a huge variety of genres. There of course may be several reasons not to like any of these games, but saying it's because of a lack of variety in genres is disingenuous.
bone_and_sinew
breaking down barriers in gratuitous nudity
They're right.
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
Considering most games on the list are exclusive games, these games actually have quite a high probability of falling victim of this compared to multi-platform games, where only few players might conceive it as a game for a rival system, no?
Not for me !
Infamous SS, DriveClub, LBP3, KSF, Sunset Overdrive (my goty ?), Forza Horizon 2, Halo: The Master Chief Collection, Project Spark, Destiny ... without mentioning the indie scene.
MegaMelon
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The fact that there's people who've actually got themselves worked up over this is hilarious. It's just marketing, anyone with common sense should understand that. I mean, what makes a game good is subjective a lot of the time so the simple thing to do is simply play what you like and ignore stuff you don't. Even if I
Wii U/3ds.
love my
DXB-KNIGHT
Member
They've got the nerve to do something ridiculous like marketing while they've got much on the plate like dooming themselves or not selling!
wastedyears
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Not for me. Apart from Fire Emblem, and a few other (mostly Atlus) games on 3DS, the newest Nintendo systems have almost nothing I'm interested in.
shaowebb
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To each their own but many are touting it as the best in the series since N64 and thats even without a proper battle mode. The racing is just that good. MK8 is one of the best I've played for certain.
Then why didn't PS4 and XBone games rank higher then?
geordiemp
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Not sell consoles and be irrelevant ? LOL
Statement gets the reply it deserves.
Back on topic.....So the question is, why is it if Metracritic says Nintendo has best games, very few people even consider the console ?
Herb Alpert
Banned
Nah, review scores don't matter, and there are too many mario and zelda, and some games are not exclusive, and Nintendo is too kiddy, and WiiU sells like shit and Nintendo should go third party on mobile phones!
I don't like these kind of ads but Nintendo would be stupid not to use these scores.
I don't like these kind of ads but Nintendo would be stupid not to use these scores.
geordiemp
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I will answer that for you.
A score is a persons perspective. So it depends who is giving the score.
If GAF Nintendo fans were reviewing, every game from Nintendo would be a 9 or a 10.
If say a COD player and shooter guy was reviewing a Nintendo game, these games would be 6/7 casual games..
Or reverse it, then N games get a 10, and COD gets a 6.
How a person scores a game is personal - for example, I would give Wii Excite truck a 9 but Wii Mario Kart a 6 or 7 as I found it boring in comparison but well made for its genre.
Its that easy.
M1ch04c4n0
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Psycho_Mantis
Banned
They actually included user scores bwahahaha
I dunno if you guys have read user scores on metacritic.......just don't.
My point (the reply to DeFrank) was that majority of Nintendo users aren't actually kids, so it's not like they are more likely to vote games higher than XBone or PS4 users just because..
Birgitte2004
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Brian★;144135709 said:
Using user scores as differentiation is laughable.
There are so many 0 scores for a typical PS4/Xbox One game which basically amount to "This isn't my console".
We could discuss why people don't generally do that for Nintendo games, but it makes it nearly impossible for high profile Xbox One/PS4 games to have a high user score.
And yet Nintendo games are immune to it, for some reason.
geordiemp
Member
WiiU is not really in the console wars....is it ?
the Wii U is not a console. So no it's not.
Are you sure about that? Take a look back through this thread, or head over to the Game of the Year 2014 voting topic to see people having meltdowns over an influx of Bayonetta 2 votes.
About this thread... I have yet to see a reasonable reason why user scores shouldn't be taken into account. In fact, i dislike what many are doing in this thread: talking like if taking into account only critic scores is clearly better than also taking into account user scores, because... ?? I'd say that taking both into account gives more valuable information than just listening to what the media has to say (specially when we all know that the media tends to give higher scores than they should and they also tend to ignore things that tend to bother users like: bugs, unpolished games, patches, etc...).
Everyone takes a lot of zeros from users... so?
What i'm saying is that, in theory, taking into account more than just critic reviews should be better.
And about the tittle: "there are more great games on Nintendo platforms than anywhere else!" well, obviously, is not true, and it will never be true, because PC...
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Also, nintendo is not saying that their games are "better". They are saying that, in the genres that they do, they have great, polished games.
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Everyone takes a lot of zeros from users... so?
What i'm saying is that, in theory, taking into account more than just critic reviews should be better.
And about the tittle: "there are more great games on Nintendo platforms than anywhere else!" well, obviously, is not true, and it will never be true, because PC...
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Also, nintendo is not saying that their games are "better". They are saying that, in the genres that they do, they have great, polished games.
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