IAmtheFMan
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I'm getting to the point where I feel we need to do an Operation Rainfall movement for Fatal Frame. It's getting ridiculous.
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Wii U Games 2015
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Drilbit777
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Especially since we didn't get Fatal Frame 4 in US/EU. At least Nintendo should release it digital only since its better than not having the game localized at all.
There's no way they could have the nerve to fuck over the few Wii U owners in the US like that. That's one of the few Wii U games left that I actually want, I'd be real angry if they decided it wasn't worth localizing. Stop milking NES rom hacks for a second and localize a good horror title for fucks sake.
Drilbit777
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Its most likely because doesn't have much faith in the Fatal Frame series doing well in the U.S. Even when they were on the PS2, they still didn't sell well.
It's not like Nintendo can be picky here though. They need to localize every game they have. They can't decide not to release something when there is no retail third party to pad out their line up. Unless it's something really not possible to localize and they know for a fact there is no market (not small but no market. Those drum games for example?). Fatal Frame isn't that type of game though I feel. Better position it yeah? Not releasing it at all would be stupid.
Would Fatal Frame sell great? No. Didn't do great numbers on the PS2 as said. Maybe not even well if they release it. Maybe enough to cover the localization and make a little bit of money. I would think we're in a situation where Nintendo needs to keep the user base they do have engaged and not drift off to another console. This is why they've embraced DLC I think. They know they don't have to many games but they can keep their customers, use, engaged longer by having us come back to games. This is why there have to be genre equivalents (or as close as possible) offered beyond platformers and the staples we expect to be there. I think Nintendo sees this. That's why Splatoon needs to be exist and probably does exist. Why Star Fox is finally coming back.
Fatal Frame is the only "horror" game outside of ZombiU the system has. Well there is Resident Evil Revelations but I see that more as a 3DS game since it was released there first and was designed for short sessions. The Wii U is not getting The Evil Within, Aliens, or any new Resident Evil. Certainly not any Souls games or anything else third party. This is what Nintendo has and they need to make use of it. They don't have the luxury of withholding games from a market like they did with the Wii.. If that user base starts to drift away (because they'll want more then Mario, Zelda, etc and that can be by buying another system, spending more money on one if they have it already or just outright stop buying Wii U software) then that hurts their software sales which is going to be the main money maker for them until they can try and re-position their standing in the market with a new system. They have to keep that attach rate up and letting people slip away doesn't help that I think.
Would Fatal Frame sell great? No. Didn't do great numbers on the PS2 as said. Maybe not even well if they release it. Maybe enough to cover the localization and make a little bit of money. I would think we're in a situation where Nintendo needs to keep the user base they do have engaged and not drift off to another console. This is why they've embraced DLC I think. They know they don't have to many games but they can keep their customers, use, engaged longer by having us come back to games. This is why there have to be genre equivalents (or as close as possible) offered beyond platformers and the staples we expect to be there. I think Nintendo sees this. That's why Splatoon needs to be exist and probably does exist. Why Star Fox is finally coming back.
Fatal Frame is the only "horror" game outside of ZombiU the system has. Well there is Resident Evil Revelations but I see that more as a 3DS game since it was released there first and was designed for short sessions. The Wii U is not getting The Evil Within, Aliens, or any new Resident Evil. Certainly not any Souls games or anything else third party. This is what Nintendo has and they need to make use of it. They don't have the luxury of withholding games from a market like they did with the Wii.. If that user base starts to drift away (because they'll want more then Mario, Zelda, etc and that can be by buying another system, spending more money on one if they have it already or just outright stop buying Wii U software) then that hurts their software sales which is going to be the main money maker for them until they can try and re-position their standing in the market with a new system. They have to keep that attach rate up and letting people slip away doesn't help that I think.
prag16
Banned
^ I agree with all this. I wouldn't give up hope on a western release just yet. It hasn't been out that long in Japan, and I could easily see a short span between localization announcement and release being possible. Perhaps something like January direct then March release (best case). We'll see.
Well, the first half of the year is pretty packed for Wii U, with Kirby, Yoshi, Splatoon, Mario Maker, Mario Party, and possibly Devil's Third. I could see them releasing Fatal Frame in late October like Bayonetta.
prag16
Banned
Sure, that'll work; and you're right, probably more likely.
Gonzo The Great
Banned
People say this every year, then the games start getting delayed. Given that the Wii U has literally zero third party support, it will be a travesty of epic proportions if Fatal Frame isn't localized.
It won't be.
Avatar bet then, Gonzo? Because there's no way in hell games like Kirby, Yoshi, Splatoon, or Mario Party get delayed. At the very least we're getting those four games, and Devil's Third is pretty likely for the first half of the year as well, though I'm not completely confident.
Gonzo The Great
Banned
I bet somebody that Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze wasn't going to come out in 2013, and he never followed through. I saw the delay coming from a mile away, because they've been doing it since the N64 era. Again, this is what happens when your console has no third party software to fill in the barren release schedule. While it may seem like there are enough games to have at least one release per month, history has shown that it never happens like that. I hope I'm wrong. I hope they announce Metroid Prime 4 and Super Mario Galaxy 3 at E3 and release them both in November. But it's hard to stay optimistic given Nintendo's track record.
January - Nothing
February - Kirby and the Rainbow Curse
March - New Nintendo 3DS / The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask 3D
April - Yoshi's Woolly World
May - Code Name: S.T.E.A.M.
June - Mario Party 10
July - Splatoon / Mario vs. Donkey Kong for Wii U eShop
August - Nothing
September - Devil's Third
October - Mario Maker / maybe Xenoblade?
November - Star Fox / a surprise announcement at E3
December - Nothing
Zelda gets delayed until 2016. Wii U sales are at a record low. Please understand.
Gonzo The Great
Banned
Super Smash Bros. for Wii U was released right before Black Friday and it didn't move any hardware. I don't think they care anymore. The game will be ready when it's ready.
I have waited for FFXV for 8...almost 9 years. I've never played a Xenoblade game, which I will, but when I saw a beautiful open world with Dinosaurs and Mechs that transform, I bought a Wii U....because I thought it looks better than any FF of recent and I don't have to wait a lifetime waiting for it lol.
People were also betting that Smash would get delayed into 2015 for the same exact reason. They still want a big holiday game no matter how futile you may see it as, and odds are they are throwing as many people on it to get it done, just like Smash.
Gonzo The Great
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Mario Maker will be their big holiday game. After all, 2015 is the 30th anniversary of Super Mario Bros. Nintendo isn't going to miss the opportunity to milk that for all it's worth.
Gaiaknight
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mario maker is a early 2015 game also on your point about black friday nintendo sales have always been better in december than november by alot.
There is no way Zelda gets delayed. It's a do or die type of situation for them the same way Smash Bros was. That game could not have been delayed either. If they have to they'll pull other teams to make sure it meets the likely November 2015 release date. Then something else gets delayed as a result.
One of the things I heard theorized on the RadioFreeNintendo podcast and I agree with is that Zelda (now that we've seen it) and Xenoblade Chronicles X (we've seen a nice bit of this game as well) are likely running on the same technology. There is a size and scale that looks similar between both games based on what we've seen so far. Both games would demand something powerful that other Nintendo first party games wouldn't and why would Nintendo do this twice? Whatever the engine or engines are they're likely done because Xenoblade was said to be finishing up a little while ago. If Monolith Soft was primarily responsible, just speculating here, for the tech while making their game and the last few Zelda games were really outsourced for the most then Zelda Wii U would be the main thing the Zelda Wii U team was working on outside of some practice on Wind Waker HD. If Xenoblade launches in Japan first in say the spring then they could pull a lot of people from that team to finish up Zelda to make a 2015 release.
One of the things I heard theorized on the RadioFreeNintendo podcast and I agree with is that Zelda (now that we've seen it) and Xenoblade Chronicles X (we've seen a nice bit of this game as well) are likely running on the same technology. There is a size and scale that looks similar between both games based on what we've seen so far. Both games would demand something powerful that other Nintendo first party games wouldn't and why would Nintendo do this twice? Whatever the engine or engines are they're likely done because Xenoblade was said to be finishing up a little while ago. If Monolith Soft was primarily responsible, just speculating here, for the tech while making their game and the last few Zelda games were really outsourced for the most then Zelda Wii U would be the main thing the Zelda Wii U team was working on outside of some practice on Wind Waker HD. If Xenoblade launches in Japan first in say the spring then they could pull a lot of people from that team to finish up Zelda to make a 2015 release.
You know we all think this way. You a clearly preaching to choir, it's just not going to happen.
It's a shame too, because I feel like they could do a lot of these types of games as digital only releases, or limited one or two retailer releases so that those of us who want it can buy it, and they aren't on the hook for too much.
I just don't think Nintendo of Japan believes that the west wants these Japanese games, when in fact, it's one of the main draws, and it should be one of their niches.
Well if you can't trust me for an avatar bet, then let's at least bet for bragging rights.
I think you're being a tad too pessimistic. While the pat two years have been horrible quantity wise, especially in the first half of the year, I think this year will be different. Just like 3DS in 2011 and 2012 were horrible; but then in 2013 Nintendo had at least one game every month. Also, Code Name S.T.E.A.M. is already confirmed for March 13, 2015, so claiming it'll launch in May is just ridiculous.
Also, Zelda isn't getting delayed. People said the same shit about Smash Wii U. NOA always releases their biggest game of the year the week before Black Friday, no exception.
Here's what I think Wii U will look like in 2015:
(EDIT: Added 3DS games to the calendar just for fun)
January - Nothing
February - Kirby and the Rainbow Curse (Wii U)
March - Yoshi's Woolly World (Wii U) / Code Name S.T.E.A.M. (3DS)
April - Mario Party 10 (Wii U) / TLoZ: Majora's Mask 3D (3DS)
May - Splatoon (Wii U) / Xenoblade Chronicles (3DS)
June - Mario Maker (Wii U) / Fossil Fighters Frontier (3DS)
July - Nothing
August - Devil's Third (Wii U) / TBA (3DS)
September - Xenoblade Chronicles X
October - Star Fox (Wii U) / Yōkai Watch (3DS)
November - The Legend of Zelda (Wii U) / Pokémon (3DS)
December - Surprise E3 game (Wii U)
I think that's a lot more realistic.
I agree they're not going to release the game until it's ready. But I don't think Wii U would have squeaked out 242k units in November without Smash. The greater issue IMO is the lack of price cuts -- Gamecube at this point in its life was $99 (half the original MSRP). Just seems this generation, Nintendo will not risk profits for relevance.
Gonzo The Great
Banned
Really? My apologies, I must have missed that announcement. Change S.T.E.A.M. and Majora's Mask around to March and May, respectively. Xenoblade 3DS will most likely be a summer release. Considering that no other 3DS games have even been announced, there's definitely going to be a gap of some kind. As for Zelda, I could hypothetically see them rushing to get it out by the end of 2015, but since the Wii U is already a lost cause, they might just say "fuck it" and spend more time polishing the game.
january - nothing
february - kirby and the rainbow curse, new 3ds, majora's mask 3d
march - monster hunter 4 ultimate, codename: steam
april - xenoblade 3d, yoshi's woolly world
may - mario party 10
june - splatoon
july - star fox (out the week of or just before e3 starts)
august - mario maker
september - devil's third, rodea the sky soldier
october - xenoblade chronicles x, yo-kai watch
november - the legend of zelda
december - pikachu detective game
2016 - bravely second, dq vii, smt x fe, pokken tournament, ultimate versions of games (mario kart 8 with dlc, hyrule warriors with dlc, etc), new handheld/console
february - kirby and the rainbow curse, new 3ds, majora's mask 3d
march - monster hunter 4 ultimate, codename: steam
april - xenoblade 3d, yoshi's woolly world
may - mario party 10
june - splatoon
july - star fox (out the week of or just before e3 starts)
august - mario maker
september - devil's third, rodea the sky soldier
october - xenoblade chronicles x, yo-kai watch
november - the legend of zelda
december - pikachu detective game
2016 - bravely second, dq vii, smt x fe, pokken tournament, ultimate versions of games (mario kart 8 with dlc, hyrule warriors with dlc, etc), new handheld/console
Zelda's been in development for a long ass time, I think it'll be polished up by November.
3DS definitely looks barren as fuck next year, so there's probably going to be some drought, but also keep in mind that 3DS games generally have a shorter gap between announcement and release. (For example, A Link Between Worlds and Mario Party 3DS were announced in April 2013 and released in November 2013).
Sounds pretty reasonable. I thought Mario Maker was intended for Q1/Q2 but when I look up info for it now, it just says 2015 :/ Also 2016 will possibly have a version of that Luigi arcade machine, whatever that is.
SporeCrawler
Member
who thinks devils third may be good?
I actually think it will. People bash it for looking "generic" but I trust Oatmeal-san. There's been a lot of pictures floating around showing off the online content, and it's pretty extensive.
there's also miyamoto's projects. i played guard at e3 and it... was... really... not... great.
i don't know how those get fleshed out into fuller experiences. robot looks like silly dumb fun at least.
I have faith in Itagaki. He knows what he's doing. Until I see otherwise, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.
Big Chungus
Member
Have $46 in the eshop, should I grab Captain Toad or Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate + a few vc games?
I don't think it will be bad. Not at all. How good it is really is up in the air I think. I need to see more of the single player and what actually has stuck around from the trailer they showed as far as multiplayer goes. I want to know if pointer controls are in for the shooting as well. Not a deal breaker for me but I'd enjoy the shooting more if it was still in.It doesn't seem like it would be a combo fighting game like Ninja Gaiden or Bayonetta so you could get away with the Wii remote and nunchuck from the little I've seen.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Itagaki knows how to make an action game. Devil's Third obviously needed a shitload of polish when it was shown at E3, and I can't imagine Nintendo pushing it out the door in that state.
So, I'm giving it the benefit of the doubt.
CyberpunkGod
Member
Just got a Wii U for my birthday, so pumped to play some of these games this year. First time I've had a Nintendo console since a 64, it's been a while, but it's good to be back.
TheBaldEmperor
Member
It blows my mind that Nintendo couldn't get REmake HD and Raviolations 2 on the Wii U. I guess I'll play them when I eventually get a PS4.
they've backed turds before. geist comes to mind.
I hope the wait is that they are making HD versions of FF4 and FF2 remake to pack in with FFU
PineapplePizza83
Banned
2015 looks to be an amazing year for Wii U! I'm very happy to own one 
Wow, what a weird pair of games.
I loved them both but Captain Toad was just a good late-year puzzle game while MH3U was a month-long obsession.
...that said, the most grindy, exhausting, bleak, slow and painful thing I did in any Wii U game was not failing the tougher hunts in MH3U but playing the last stage of Captain Toad.
Its the system's fifth year, its old. It's still got a line-up forming up in Japan, and we're going to reap the benefits of that in localizations. Nintendo itself won't be pushing too much aside from Steam and MM in the first half of the year, aside from some unexpected new title announcements.
SporeCrawler
Member
on one hand I remember read that devils third is almost finished already. on the other hand splatoon was shown as a Q2 game already alongside xenoblade in one of the last directs. devils third is not to be found in that direct.
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
Exactly. Did you see Nintendo's PR? They sold the most Wii Us in a week since launch in 2012 the week Smash released. Since the Wii U sold 482K or so last December, that means at least 120.5K Wii Us sold that week and it likely sold miserably the previous weeks. I wouldn't really say it's nothing, especially considering there were no Black Friday deals at all...
It was a turd with potential! And Nintendo was rushing games during the GC era, something they seemed to have stopped doing now.
Vincent Alexander
Member
I am excited about most games on the list, but what really gets my nipples hard?
Mario Party 10
Mario Party 10
Spieler Eins
Member
ding ding ding, we have a winner. It's astonishing how much people seem to forget or probably even refuse to remember. I mean, up until recently I've still seen the umpteenth myth about ,,one WiiU game per month next year!'' going around and look where that went (once again), lol. Wii U was a drought machine for 2 years and it always will be. Maybe it's not as horrid as this year, in which some delayed 2D game had to cover up a drought from january to the end of may, but it's certainly not looking good. Europe already doesn't get Kirby february and you can consider yourself lucky if the supposed Q2 release date of Splatoon barely means a delay until summer, instead of fall. But you can bet, when Mario Maker is delayed to become the holiday title instead of Zelda, there's still gonna be a defence brigade and some displacing narrative about an alleged amazing 2016 for WiiU will be worked on immediately (even though that will be the year of Nintendo's next hardware grabbing most remaining WiiU titles).
Or maybe Zelda does come out. After they could barely get a hang of HD development and their only other title of this size has already been delayed a year (even though up until a day before E3 they've still talked about a 2014 Xeno release, lol). Sure.
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