TheBaronOfNA
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Really, I don't want to sound over negative. Hope for the best for Patrick and the staff in Kotaku that have tried to improve a lot of stuff on it.
Patrick Klepek is joining Kotaku
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I would love to see a crowd funded site like https://krautreporter.de for video games. That would be neat. No more clickbait, no more "Deals" and pre-order "articles". But that idea feels more like a distant dream. It's "just" video game reporting after all.
RealityPales
Member
Interesting place to land. I like it!
notworksafe
Member
Bummer. I enjoy his writing but I don't give page views to Gawker sites.
Senior-level in this context is junior-level in bona fide journalism. Right or wrong, people with Klepak's experience are copy editors in mainstream journalism.
LurkerPrime
Member
Gamespot is in what you quoted, between GAF and Kotaku.
cm osi
Member
the one on the card against humanity creator was abysmal. i don't get how they approved it.
They're easy to hate and ridicule, and there were plenty of good reasons for that in the past, but Kotaku has actually been a pretty good website last year. The amount of good articles far outweigh the clickbait headlines and shitty non-stories they used to be infamous for and they've been impressively dedicated to improving themselves wherever possible. Sure, it's not perfect (some unnecessary junk remains) but it's one of the few non-GAF gaming websites I enjoy reading regularly, especially since they're more of a fun blog than a PR/news machine (no need for that when you're on here).
Patrick is a great get for them and the skeptical people in this thread should really give the site another chance. They've come a long way since the days they got (and probably deserved) Polygon-like hate and should in fact be praised for the actual time and effort they've put into becoming a quality outlet.
Patrick is a great get for them and the skeptical people in this thread should really give the site another chance. They've come a long way since the days they got (and probably deserved) Polygon-like hate and should in fact be praised for the actual time and effort they've put into becoming a quality outlet.
AlphaSnake
...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
Robert at Zeboyd Games
Banned
Added them. They're a little less popular than Kotaku.
Yes.
I just saw a lot of people in this thread saying that Giant Bomb -> Kotaku is a downgrade and in terms of audience size, this is definitely not the case.
And personally, I know this is an unpopular opinion here but I like Kotaku a lot more than Giant Bomb. I prefer articles to videos, plus Giant Bomb did a video of one of our games where it was obvious that the people playing had no clue how to play an RPG. I may not always agree with Jason at Kotaku, but I definitely trust that he has basic RPG competence.
All the interesting people at Joystiq bounced to Polygon ages ago. It was a bummer, used to love that podcast. It's incredibly boring now.
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SliceSabre
Banned
I suppose I'll have to go back to visiting Kotaku again because I've always had a like for Patrick's stuff.
snoopeasystreet
Member
Haven't read Kotaku in years but I'll follow Klepek because he's a cool dude and it's cool to see him working with Totilo.
That said, I'm not sure what Kotaku affords him that GB doesn't. The only thing I can assume is that he wants to focus on writing over video content.
That said, I'm not sure what Kotaku affords him that GB doesn't. The only thing I can assume is that he wants to focus on writing over video content.
Wish you all the best, Patrick. I'll make an honest go at having a look, but I'll be honest...there isn't much about Kotaku that I enjoy. I think the writing is kinda' shit, and the ghost of Crescente continues to loom in some of the sensationalist garbage that I see whenever Kotaku pops up on my radar.
You're not going to suddenly become a shitty writer, though, so there is hope.
You're not going to suddenly become a shitty writer, though, so there is hope.
I wonder how many people who visit Kotaku even give a shit about who is writing it. Purely anecdotal but my friends who are into gaming visit two sites: IGN and Kotaku. They only care about skimming reviews/previews and news about AAA games. A monkey could write previews for them and it wouldn't matter so long as there are screenshots or video. Reviews need to have the green box that says "YES" or something above about an 8.5 and beyond that it's a whatever.
I wonder how the audience, though smaller at GB, is compared to Kotaku in terms of engagement? Though I guess realistically you could have the same 100 people comment on every topic and it would be an overwhelming amount of feedback given the way Kotaku pumps out stuff.
I wonder how the audience, though smaller at GB, is compared to Kotaku in terms of engagement? Though I guess realistically you could have the same 100 people comment on every topic and it would be an overwhelming amount of feedback given the way Kotaku pumps out stuff.
GillianSeed79
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This. For every reporter with a job now, there are 30 journalism school graduates looking for one. Also, unless you are working at a major publication, the pay for any journalism gig is shitty and the hours are shitty. I can't imagine CBSi paid a lot, but then again I can't imagine Kotaku pays much better.
I have nothing against Kotaku, but there's still too much "look what I found on the net" articles for me. I'd say that there's about 9 of those (or stuff from other Gawker sites) to 1 actual reported Kotaku article on the site. But I'll click on a good article by Jason when it's posted here or on Twitter, same with Patrick.
Pops Maellard
Member
This. I went into college as a journalism major and quickly realized how incredibly difficult it would be to find a decent job with that, so I switched. That said, Patrick doesn't have kids or other massive money draining things to support.
Well, he doesn't have to stay in journalism either. If we're being crass enough to assume that he's only in it for the money, then we can also assume he doesn't care about what he does as long as he gets paid.
Mostly, I just think the "He's only in it for the money" attitude is really shitty and negative and unnecessary.
Mushroomer25
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Good on him, though I worry if he's stagnating himself by moving to a more text-based site. Kotaku has a fair share of video content, but it's nothing like Giant Bomb's output on that front. Since Patrick himself has said that text-based coverage isn't the best medium for this generation - I hope he'll push himself to do more on-camera stuff.
Gentleman Jack
Member
What does that even mean
That's probably it. Giant Bomb has always been more about Giant Bomb itself (crew, podcasts, videos) than actual game journalism (whatever that term means these days). Not that there is anything wrong with that, the GB crew is a lovely bunch, but it's not hard to imagine Patrick wanting to focus on writing again.
Zombie James
Banned
Oh...
Necromanti
Member
Not what I had expected, but I wish him the best.
(And it's "14 years old", Patrick, not "14-years-old"!)
(And it's "14 years old", Patrick, not "14-years-old"!)
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Wow, that's pretty fuckin disgusting. Kotaku is utter dog shit with the worst "writing" in the history of games on the internet.. the only reason he could have possibly taken this job is because he felt pushed out at GB (his own fault for moving back) and could feel his limelight fading. Sad.
Pocky4Th3Win
Member
Ugh can't believe kotaku hired another straight white male journalist.
Joking aside, congrats Patrick. Not the biggest fan of Kotaku (primarily because oh how shitty their comment section is) but I wish you luck. Seems that they are a better fit for you since they report news more often than GB ever has.
Joking aside, congrats Patrick. Not the biggest fan of Kotaku (primarily because oh how shitty their comment section is) but I wish you luck. Seems that they are a better fit for you since they report news more often than GB ever has.
It means article quotas and a heavy focus on clickbait
Twin Tails
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Polygon would of been a better fit for him
Fox Mulder
Member
Congrats to him.
I like him but kotaku really isnt a site for me.
I like him but kotaku really isnt a site for me.
breadtruck
Member
I stopped reading Kotaku once I realized nearly every article was just yanked from here or just a collection of "the internet reacts" reposts of tweets.
Congrats to him if he feels this is a good fit, but the site isnt worth the time in my opinion. Which is sad, since it used to be my most frequented and commented-on website.
Congrats to him if he feels this is a good fit, but the site isnt worth the time in my opinion. Which is sad, since it used to be my most frequented and commented-on website.
If they're going by AP style, that's the right formatting
GB has alway been Jeff, Brad, Vinny, Ryan and Patrick to me, the furious 5.
kotaku.com: http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/kotaku.com
giantbomb.com: http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/giantbomb.com
giantbomb.com: http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/giantbomb.com
Don't think anyone's disputing that. Kotaku's official numbers are public, so that's probably a better way to view their numbers since Alexa is pretty terrible at predicting trends.
Necromanti
Member
Not from what I'm seeing. (It was only really obvious in the OP, anyway.)
Fox Mulder
Member
Yeah, but now it's down to Jeff and Brad making fun of Dan's life.
entremet
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Gawker Media--Gawker, Deadspin, Jezebel, Gizmodo, and Kotaku was founded by Nick Denton and is known for popularizing cheap and low quality content for hits.
I like Kotaku, though. You don't read everything on the site. That would be maddening.
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