Patrick Klepek is joining Kotaku

Schlep

Member
wait, can't he just video skype it in?

GB has always come off as very proud of the audio quality on their podcast, and that would muddy it up. Even if he were to record his own track separately, that becomes an awful process to line it up in post. Even a fraction of a second off and his track becomes noticeably out of sync as the podcast progresses.
 

Fjordson

Member
Maybe in numbers, Was it a great year for Giantbomb original content? nooot really, I mean.. there's been better years for sure.
Well quality of content is totally subjective. If you personally didn't enjoy it, that's fine, you're entitled to that opinion. Just thought you were talking about the actual health of the site due to the mention of Alexa numbers.

wait, can't he just video skype it in?
They already have a traditional four-man lineup out in San Francisco. Skyping someone in would be an unnecessary downgrade.
 

Ecto311

Member
Jeff is pretty anti skype since it introduces a lag in conversation and hates when other podcasts do it.

Doesn't the cheapassgamer podcast do it with no problems? They sync it up later but Cheapy was in Japan for most of them and they sound great.
 

styl3s

Member
Great April Foo... Wait, It's January, this isn't a April Fools joke.

Glad Patrick landed on his feet and hopefully he's going to do more of what he wants to do but even Patrick can't get me to go to Kotaku.

Maybe in numbers, Was it a great year for Giantbomb original content? nooot really, I mean.. there's been better years for sure.
Your view isn't their view or the majority of their audience.

It was a phenomenal year for GB in terms of content.
 
Maybe in numbers, Was it a great year for Giantbomb original content? nooot really, I mean.. there's been better years for sure.

I think it was a great year, yeah. We've gotten some of their best content ever this year. Mario Party Party 1 & 2, Giant Bomb vs Roller Coaster, Velvet Sundown videos, Metal Gear Scanlon, Demo Derbies, Avalon, Pog UPF, etc. have all been absolutely fantastic. This conversation better belongs in the OT, though. It's a bit off topic.
 
Did you follow GiantBomb this year? Weakest year ever.

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faridmon

Member
fwiw, they've significantly improved over the past few years

if you haven't been in a while, maybe give it another shot

(I don't read them regularly myself, so maybe the bread and butter articles are trash, but the stuff I'm regularly linked to is impressive and their move away from preview coverage is healthy and worth supporting)

Fair enough, I will try them out if that is the case. Cheers!
 

HowZatOZ

Banned
I'm confused, did Kotaku at some point stop being the videogame equivalent of The Sun? Because I actually mentally barred myself from going to that place because it was so terrible.

Or is it just putting together a tiny pool of decent writers to deflect attention away from all the idiot garbage that still gets posted as per Gawker policy?

Like anywhere it still has fluff articles to fill the space, but for the most part they have been getting better. A lot more investigative work (albeit not as frequent as you'd hope) that really hits keynotes of the industry.
 

Fjordson

Member
Doesn't the cheapassgamer podcast do it with no problems? They sync it up later but Cheapy was in Japan for most of them and they sound great.
He does, and the CAGcast is one of my favourite shows around, but he's also mentioned how it can be a pain in the ass to put together and to coordinate a recording schedule with people in different time zones. Doubt it's worth it for Jeff and co. when they have enough people in-house to put on a good show.
 

Toparaman

Banned
Common... I love Giantbomb and Dan is a fun dude, but lets be real here since the CBS adquisition the site its been downhill.

I haven't check Alexa numbers but I've been in the comunity boards since the begining, they used to be super active... these days thought, Whiskey Media glory days are long gone.

This year brought me back to Giant Bomb in a big way. I've been a fan of Jeff and company since before GB existed, but the Bombcast got really stale around 2012-2013. An hour long discussion of yard cleaning and mowing lawns is not interesting. Talking about household chores is not interesting.

The addition of two younger members has really revitalized the 'cast. The greater emphasis on video content had me actually visiting the site on a regular basis instead of just listening to the bombcast.

As far as the community goes, that's not really what GB is about any more. It's all about the personalities now.
 

Nerokis

Member
Maybe in numbers, Was it a great year for Giantbomb original content? nooot really, I mean.. there's been better years for sure.

According to what metric? I feel like in the past people complained all the time about a lack of content, about abandoned series, and all this kind of stuff. But over the last ~6 months it was fairly common to see people surprised by the volume of compelling items on the schedule. I felt like Giant Bomb delivered an incredible amount of entertainment last year.
 

BennyBlanco

aka IMurRIVAL69
Doesn't the cheapassgamer podcast do it with no problems? They sync it up later but Cheapy was in Japan for most of them and they sound great.

Shipwreck is constantly getting kicked from the Skype convo. It's pretty hilarious how long it takes them to notice. Cheapy also bought all of them really good mics. But I agree, I like the CAGcast a lot and don't think Skype hurts it.
 

Gusto

Member
Doesn't the cheapassgamer podcast do it with no problems? They sync it up later but Cheapy was in Japan for most of them and they sound great.

I tried listening to one of theirs and I couldn't take the quality. Just me though.
 

Northeastmonk

Gold Member
He moved back to Chicago (both him and his wife have family there) nearly a year after his dad passed away unexpectedly. Since he was living in Chicago with none of the GB people to work with it was pretty hard for him to produce solid video content, especially since every quicklook on the site tends to be at least two people. I guess with Kotaku it lets him focus on writing articles rather than having to worry about producing video content. Also, GB's biggest draw is their podcast which is something he couldn't be a part of either.

Giant Bomb shouldn't be unnoticed. They do things that other outlets do not. The Bombcast is a fantastic method of reaching people on a personal level. You can sit and enjoy a cast while you play video games. I'm not to put one over or on top the other. Kotaku has instant news settled between sometimes news not necessarily geared for me. The moment the story hits I'm at the outlet (not quite sure where), so that's one way of viewing it.

Jason Schreier just got a promotion too. He is now Kotaku's News Editor. Congrats to the Kotaku team.
 
I keep wanting to give Kotaku a try. But everytime I go to the site, my eyes start to bleed. It is a horrendous looking site in my opinion.
 
Great move for Patrick, moving on to a website that emphasizes writing and already has a strong base of talented staff. Granted there is alot of fluff pieces, but we're talking about video games, there isn't groundbreaking stories everyday. Its no different than Neogaf honestly, the noise-to-signal ratio isn't the greatest here either. Looking forward to seeing what the renewed focus and resources will do for his work.
 
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Deleted member 30609

Unconfirmed Member
is there any way to disable the local version of Kotaku (Australia) and just few the same version as the rest of the world?

(there's a link in the footer)
 
This might have been asked and answered, but any mention of if he'll keep doing video content, whether it's via Kotaku or just Twitch?

I need my horror games and Spelunky action.
 

Nose Master

Member
Good stuff. After he moved, his content on GB was especially out of place. Like someone's blog that just happened to be on Giant Bomb.
 

TadThuggish

Neo Member
Like anywhere it still has fluff articles to fill the space, but for the most part they have been getting better. A lot more investigative work (albeit not as frequent as you'd hope) that really hits keynotes of the industry.

They're more like Buzzfeed. Buzzfeed spent five years plagiarizing garbage in order to appeal to a mass audience, then started hiring experienced journalists and making legitimately neat videos once they got big enough. The problem is that they still plagiarized and never apologized for it. It was part of the tactic. And just because they put up a few good things now doesn't excuse the present and past of all its flaws. They aren't little mistakes. Multiple editors say "Oh, please give us another chance" over and over again to the point that you realize they're playing you for a sucker. They want you to either be okay with taking shortcuts or to avoid looking at the shortcuts they take. Kotaku fits this description just as well.

I don't agree with everything Giant Bomb has ever put out, but they don't regularly publish offensive articles or plagiarized articles. The bad never outweighs the good because the bad is rare and always an honest mistake.

If Fox News puts up one video of great investigative reporting, should the world be okay with its overwhelming violent rhetoric? If The Sun had an in-depth and respectful interview with a celebrity, should the world be okay with its libel?
 
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Deleted member 30609

Unconfirmed Member
They're more like Buzzfeed. Buzzfeed spent five years plagiarizing garbage in order to appeal to a mass audience, then started hiring experienced journalists and making legitimately neat videos once they got big enough. The problem is that they still plagiarized and never apologized for it. It was part of the tactic. And just because they put up a few good things now doesn't excuse the present and past of all its flaws. They aren't little mistakes. Multiple editors say "Oh, please give us another chance" over and over again to the point that you realize they're playing you for a sucker. They want you to either be okay with taking shortcuts or to avoid looking at the shortcuts they take. Kotaku fits this description just as well.

I don't agree with everything Giant Bomb has ever put out, but they don't regularly publish offensive articles or plagiarized articles. The bad never outweighs the good because the bad is rare and always an honest mistake.

If Fox News puts up one video of great investigative reporting, should the world be okay with its overwhelming violent rhetoric? If The Sun had an in-depth and respectful interview with a celebrity, should the world be okay with its libel?
wait. what has Kotaku done that requires apology (like, say, plagiarism) that they haven't apologized for?

(sincere question)
 

Haunted

Member
Kotaku is better than Giant Bomb already.

Yeah, that's right, kiss my ass.
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Even if GB has no one on the level of Patrick Klepek anymore, the rest of the crew and their content still makes them the superior entertainment site.
 

QaaQer

Member
They're more like Buzzfeed. Buzzfeed spent five years plagiarizing garbage in order to appeal to a mass audience, then started hiring experienced journalists and making legitimately neat videos once they got big enough. The problem is that they still plagiarized and never apologized for it. It was part of the tactic. And just because they put up a few good things now doesn't excuse the present and past of all its flaws. They aren't little mistakes. Multiple editors say "Oh, please give us another chance" over and over again to the point that you realize they're playing you for a sucker. They want you to either be okay with taking shortcuts or to avoid looking at the shortcuts they take. Kotaku fits this description just as well.

I don't agree with everything Giant Bomb has ever put out, but they don't regularly publish offensive articles or plagiarized articles. The bad never outweighs the good because the bad is rare and always an honest mistake.

If Fox News puts up one video of great investigative reporting, should the world be okay with its overwhelming violent rhetoric? If The Sun had an in-depth and respectful interview with a celebrity, should the world be okay with its libel?

bomb is a site about personalities, they are in no way a journo outlet. So you are comparing The Letterman Show to a newspaper, apples to oranges.
 

Haunted

Member
bomb is a site about personalities, they are in no way a journo outlet. So you are comparing The Letterman Show to a newspaper, apples to oranges.
Newspaper? More like a yellow journalism blog.


edit: also, because someone linked to an Ashcraft article (about french fries?) earlier. It must be disheartening to go from being in one of gaming's and gaming culture's hotspots to a location that becomes less and less relevant for the larger picture every year.
 

Risible

Member
Jeff is pretty anti skype since it introduces a lag in conversation and hates when other podcasts do it.

I agree 100% with Jeff, I almost always skip episodes of a podcast when I realize someone is Skyping in, it becomes so stilted and annoying. It's kind of like talking on a cell phone with shitty reception.

I decided to give Kotaku another chance in light of the news of Patrick moving over. I like JSchreir and figured it was time to decide on my own if Kotaku had improved. Skimmed through the top 30 or so stories and was not exactly blown away but the ratio of things I was interested in versus complete drivel. It still feels way too much like a Gawker branded site.

I'll probably wait six months and then give it another go and see how they are coming along.

Good luck at the new job, Patrick!
 

Tagyhag

Member
Not surprising, he probably won't improve Kotaku's overall quality but maybe we'll get some good articles out of it.
 

Zabant

Member
Nice too see him joining a quality news reporting site.

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In all seriousness, Jason and now Pat are the only reasons to visit Kotaku, and that's still not enough for me.

Just keep up with them on twitter for their stories and avoid the Kotaku homepage.
 

JeTmAn81

Member
Dude changes jobs quite a bit. If he's on your team, it's probably not a bad idea to have a replacement in the back of your mind.

Changing jobs frequently is the norm these days, but Patrick was with Giant Bomb for about four years. That's quite a bit of time.
 
Newspaper? More like a yellow journalism blog.


edit: also, because someone linked to an Ashcraft article (about french fries?) earlier. It must be disheartening to go from being in one of gaming's and gaming culture's hotspots to a location that becomes less and less relevant for the larger picture every year.

Patrick seems to be putting on a brave front, I'm sure he'll be fine.
 
Ewwwww, Kotaku? Seriously? Good luck to Patrick, but I'm just am not a fan of the layout and most of the content on that site. Jason does some great work, and he couldn't even drive me to that site
 

LQX

Member
Nice too see him joining a quality news reporting site.

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In all seriousness, Jason and now Pat are the only reasons to visit Kotaku, and that's still not enough for me.

Just keep up with them on twitter for their stories and avoid the Kotaku homepage.
Come on, the way GB gets on at times makes that seem tame. I have heard enough vomit and shit stories from those dudes to last me a lifetime.
 

Squishy3

Member
Come on, the way GB gets on at times makes that seem tame. I have heard enough vomit and shit stories from those dudes to last me a lifetime.
Most of that is in the podcast or video content, though. Not really comparable. They don't really post news articles like that.
 

Mesoian

Member
Come on, the way GB gets on at times makes that seem tame. I have heard enough vomit and shit stories from those dudes to last me a lifetime.

Yes, in the podcast, where they are funny bits of flavor context. They aren't making news posts about them. They are not meant as a draw to the site.

Real talk, half of the reason why I don't go to Kotaku anymore is because half of their content is better served as a twitter link than a news article.
 

Kelas

The Beastie Boys are the first hip hop group in years to have something to say
I wonder what his first article will be about (excluding his introduction).
 

Risible

Member
Come on, the way GB gets on at times makes that seem tame. I have heard enough vomit and shit stories from those dudes to last me a lifetime.

I may be picking nits here, but I think it'd be more fair to compare the two sites (kotaku.com and giantbomb.com) versus Kotaku.com and the Bombcast.

If you compare the two front pages I think the difference would be apparent. GB is obviously all about games whereas Kotaku is very "click-baitey." Just my take on it, of course.
 
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