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[Mauricio_Magus]

This would be a non-issue if we could charge it via USB with those cables we all own.

 

[evilchicken]

I completely agree that a charger should be included. Got me thinking though, did PSP and PSVita get the same hate for requiring a proprietary memory card purchase to use the system (because who doesn't save their games)?

 

[Sapiens]

regular 3ds xl and 2ds are still on the shelves here in america so thats probably a reason why
no ac adapter is stupid since i need to trade it in with my 3ds xl to get the promo $100 :/


plus, there are tons of people that would have bought the face plates imo , i say that cause i know a lot of guys and girls that change their phone cases each month.

at least have it for sale through club nintendo or nintendo online store, NoA you dummies

This is the correct answer. We'll likely see the it with the old 3DS finally sells out.

Maybe by 2019?

 

[SerTapTap]

OK. That doesn't mean it should be something that the government should mandate, which is what I am saying.

If customers have an issue with it, they won't buy the product.

If they still buy the product, then they have spoken and said this is acceptable for them.

Believing it should be illegal to do so is absurd.

"Not acceptable" != "Illegal". Consumers and press should absolutely lambast Nintendo for this regardless of legality. That's what "not acceptable" means to me.

 

[Guess Who]

Lack of AC adapter is dumb, indefensible, and I'm willing to bet ordered by NoJ, not NoA (who fought to keep the adapter in the US XL even when other regions lost it). Anyone can see from a thousand miles away that this is a terrible idea and is going to dumbfound average customers.

As far as the regular n3DS goes, I think some people are comically overstating how popular faceplates would be. Some hardcore fans would buy them but most people wouldn't care. Combine that with the unpopularity of the previous regular-sized 3DS (which they haven't sold in the US for like, a year now because nobody bought them) and I think that decision at least makes some sense.

I completely agree that a charger should be included. Got me thinking though, did PSP and PSVita get the same hate for requiring a proprietary memory card purchase to use the system (because who doesn't save their games)?

God knows Vita did. The pricing on those memory cards is extortionate.

 

[lt519]

Some people will defend anything. I'm the biggest devils advocate in the world but come the fuck on people. I thought it was terrible practice in the EU and I think its terrible now. Screw everyone thats defending this

I don't think people are actually defending it. Mostly saying they just don't care. You don't have to be on an extreme side of the spectrum. It's a dumb practice, but really I could give two shits, so I'm not going to let it ruin my day like a lot of people here.

I completely agree that a charger should be included. Got me thinking though, did PSP and PSVita get the same hate for requiring a proprietary memory card purchase to use the system (because who doesn't save their games)?

I'm still bitter about spending $60 on a memory card (they included one but it barely fit one retail game). Now that was ridiculous. I remember the N64 days when I didn't have a memory pak yet and I had to start games fresh every time I played. It was awful.

 

[Gnub]

Seems kind of dumb to not release the normal new 3DS since they could sell so many faceplates. I like that it's the same price as the normal 3DS XL and makes it so I don't need to choose which one I want though

I'm not sure they would sell a whole lot of face plates. They would also have to convince Walmart to reduce some of that Amiibo and Skylanders (or other figurine type) space for some face plates. Good luck with that.

 

[LegendofLex]

I mean, again, from a financial point of view, faceplates should, in theory, reactivate one of the money printing machines in idle inside Nintendo's HQ. Just take a guess about how much they cost for the end consumer versus how much they cost for Nintendo to produce. Take into account that a single owner could buy dozens of those things, and you got yourself an insta-success on your hands. Again, supply constraints?

It's not a "cost for Nintendo to produce" issue. It'll be a "risk for Nintendo to distribute to retailers who don't want to carry accessories for a product that sells relatively poorly (3DS already sells poorly, n3DS is even more enthusiast-focused) compared to other products (PS4) in the games category" issue.

Doesn't help that n3DS exists for no other reason than to monetize existing 3DS owners.

 

[Brazil]

The scary thing is how accepting people are about it. Like they enjoy spending money on things that should be included. "But other regions did it first!~" - yeesh.

I accept it because I already have like six of those AC Adapters in my house right now.

 

[Dimmle]

NOA just keeps on NOA'ing

 

[Mechanized]

I don't remember seeing people be up in arms about the PS3/360 not coming with HDMI cables which are basically required and they're muchore expensive than the 3ds adapter. How is this any different? They've sold 3ds's w/o the adapter in EU and JP for a long time now and that hasn't damaged their image or sales.

When the 360 and PS3 were first released most people didn't have HD TVs. Regardless, the console could still be used, you just had to have the right inputs on your TV(component or composite). The 3DS cannot be used without an AC adapter. Period. Just because they've been getting away with this anti-consumer horseshit doesn't justify it continuing.

 

[Jito]

The Nintendo apologists are a go!

This is so fucking stupid, I had this issue when I bought my 3DS here in Europe, had to order a charger and wait for that before I could use my 3DS. Well done Nintendo, prevent people from using their product out of the box!

 

[Platy]

Does it comes with a charging craddle or ANYTHING to charge the console ?

 

[Fularu]

so you quoted the guy instead of PMing him?



on topic..

it's a dumb decision. I can't think of any other electronic device that doesn't come with a charger that doesn't use AA/AAA batteries.

Every single smartphone/tablet (well most anyway since Apple products come with a usb wall adapter) in existence doesn't come with a charger, sometimes not even a un cable because they (rightfully) believe you already have tons of those lying around.

I agree it's dumb though.

 

[blast processed]

I don't understand the complaint about the lack of an AC adapter. This has already been done in Japan and should have been expected here. Also is this the first time someone is diving into the DS hardware line that they don't have an adapter? SMH

 

[Flappy]

Wait. The New 3DS XL comes with NO way of charging it?

The regular XL doesn't outside of the US.

I'm quite shocked at how many people never knew this. There was a big deal about it a few years ago.

 

[WrenchNinja]

It's easy to say this when you don't have the data they do and you don't have to balance a company's bottom line.

I'm sure it's really hurting Nintendo, y'know, the multibillion dollar company's bottom line to include a freaking charger.

 

[AppleSautts]

I keep forgetting that. 64GB microSD cards CAN'T be cheap...

$35

64gb is pretty overkill, IMO. I have a 32GB (which is $17) for my 3DS and I still have a ton of space after downloading several full retail games.

 

[Neiteio]

If a simple USB cable is going to break your company, your company is already broken.

Not that. I was referring to the one SKU, not the AC adapter.

I'm sure it's really hurting Nintendo, y'know, the multibillion dollar company's bottom line to include a freaking charger.

I said in my previous post I think it's a bad idea to leave out the charger.

 

[EloquentM]

Until we see if they use the power of the new hardware is there even a reason to by a new 3DS?

Nope, especially since I was gonna buy for faceplates. NoA fucked themselves on that one though. So fucking backwards.

 

[Petrie]

"Not acceptable" != "Illegal". Consumers and press should absolutely lambast Nintendo for this regardless of legality. That's what "not acceptable" means to me.

Maybe you should pay attention to the post I was actually responding to then, which said exactly that. Be less ignorant perhaps.

The no AC thing happened in Europe with the XL right? I thought a consumer friendly place like the EU would have laws to prohibit this shit, disgusting.

I mean it was quoted in my original post. So it should be easy to identify what I was discussing.

 

[OnionPowder]

I keep forgetting that. 64GB microSD cards CAN'T be cheap...

Yeah I'm sad I can't reuse my 32GB SD card on the new one. May as well end up throwing it in the Wii U. 64GB Micro SDs are still pretty cheap though. You can get them for around $35 on Amazon.

 

[Mytherin]

The no AC thing happened in Europe with the XL right? I thought a consumer friendly place like the EU would have laws to prohibit this shit, disgusting.

I believe it's actually the opposite, and the reason there is no AC adapter included is because of European laws. European laws prohibit proprietary charges for mobile devices, they require all phone-like devices to use micro-USB chargers, but you can get around that by not including the charger with the product (I believe Apple uses the same trick). Why they're doing it in the US now I wouldn't know. Parity, I suppose?

 

[Version 3.0]

I hope the no AC adapter decision bites them in the ass. As in thousands of angry support calls, returned systems, or even a class action lawsuit. That's absurd and completely anti-consumer.

 

[SomedayTheFire]

I don't understand the complaint about the lack of an AC adapter. This has already been done in Japan and should have been expected here. Also is this the first time someone is diving into the DS hardware line that they don't have an adapter? SMH

It shouldn't be acceptable in Europe or Japan either. What a horrible argument, you're basically saying "fuck everyone who hasn't bought a DS or 3DS already". Embarrassing defence of this shitty policy.

 

[AdanVC]

Not bringing the regular N3DS was truly such a letdown but not including the New XL with an adapter is truly a massive dissapointment. Glad they are doing it that way so I don't have to spend money on upgrading to the new XL. My current 3DS will do just fine and I can't wait for Majora's Mask.

 

[shacklesmcgee]

It's easy to say this when you don't have the data they do and you don't have to balance a company's bottom line.

No, it's easy to say because every electronics device I've ever purchased came with a way to make that device work/charge.

 

[lt519]

I'm sure it's really hurting Nintendo, y'know, the multibillion dollar company's bottom line to include a freaking charger.

When it could save you tens of millions and simultaneously generate tens of millions by selling said charger without pissing off too many people (remember you are on GAF). Sure it makes a ton of sense. Like a lot of sense.

 

[The Horror the horror]

What's baffling is Nintendo's reluctance to generate goodwill in light of their predicament in the marketplace. You don't want to give us free shit every once in a while? Fine. But withholding a goddamn charging adapter is creating the exact opposite effect of what they should be pursuing given their precarious position in the industry.

 

[Guess Who]

It shouldn't be acceptable in Europe or Japan either. What a horrible argument, you're basically saying "fuck everyone who hasn't bought a DS or 3DS already". Embarrassing defence of this shitty policy.

Or specifically, a DSi or 3DS, because DS and DS Lite chargers don't work with 3DSs!

 

[Derpyduck]

Not that. I was referring to the one SKU, not the AC adapter.

Yep, I think that definitely came down to the fact that the XL was far more popular. It just doesn't make sense to sell it in Europe, where the XL also dominated the regular 3DS.

 

[Neiteio]

No, it's easy to say because every electronics device I've ever purchased came with a way to make that device work/charge.

Would you please read my fucking posts. I AGREE THEY SHOULD INCLUDE THE AC ADAPTER. I'M TALKING ABOUT LEAVING OUT THE REGULAR N3DS.

Ahem. Thank you.

 

[Bear_King]

I'm most disappointed about the move to micro SD, but the lack of an AC adapter is pretty outrageous, too.

I don't think I knew this. I have a 32 GB SD card in my XL now. So to transfer everything I need to buy a new micro-SD?

 

[Flappy]

I hope the no AC adapter decision bites them in the ass.

It hasn't bitten them in the ass for the two years they have already been doing it. No reason why it suddenly will now.

 

[WrenchNinja]

When it could save you tens of millions and simultaneously generate tens of millions by selling said charger without pissing off too many people (remember you are on GAF). Sure it makes a ton of sense. Like a lot of sense.

So if it makes so much sense, why isn't every other tech giant doing this?

Expecting a charger to come with your device isn't a GAF issue. This is a pretty common expectation from any normal person.

 

[SomedayTheFire]

Or specifically, a DSi or 3DS, because DS and DS Lite chargers don't work with 3DSs!

Even worse! I was under the impression that DS chargers worked too.

 

[lt519]

What's baffling is Nintendo's reluctance to generate goodwill in light of their predicament in the marketplace. You don't want to give us free shit every once in a while? Fine. But withholding a goddamn charging adapter is creating the exact opposite effect of what they should be pursuing given their precarious position in the industry.

Actually if you are a Nintendo enthusiast you get free shit ALL THE TIME. Club Nintendo, DDP, and special promotions up the wazoo. Just not physical things. This move is dumb from a consumer stand point, but Nintendo is far from a bad corporation that is just money hungry.

 

[Petrie]

Would you please read my fucking posts. I AGREE THEY SHOULD INCLUDE THE AC ADAPTER. I'M TALKING ABOUT LEAVING OUT THE REGULAR N3DS.

Ahem. Thank you.

There are a lot of posters in this thread who lack basic reading comprehension skills and the ability to follow a conversation based on what one might quote before a response.

Actually if you are a Nintendo enthusiast you get free shit ALL THE TIME. Club Nintendo, DDP, and special promotions up the wazoo. Just not physical things. This move is dumb from a consumer stand point, but Nintendo is far from a bad corporation that is just money hungry.

Club Nintendo isn't free shit. It is inexpensive marketing data for Nintendo for which they give you much less than such data should garner.

 

[Neiteio]

Yep, I think that definitely came down to the fact that the XL was far more popular. It just doesn't make sense to sell it in Europe, where the XL also dominated the regular 3DS.

It's also a matter of the retail situation in America, though.

 

[Pandacon]

Yeah, no AC adapter is really dumb, they better say it in their ads and on the box "no AC adapter included" like what they use to do with batteries. People are gonna get their 3ds and not have a way to charge it.

So dumb.

 

[bms2993]

Was going to spring for the regular model.. but nope. I'll stick with my current 3DS.

 

[Quadraphonic]

I hope the no AC adapter decision bites them in the ass. As in thousands of angry support calls, returned systems, or even a class action lawsuit. That's absurd and completely anti-consumer.

I want this to happen.

 

[Green Wiggly]

Nintendo just killed the shit out of any interest I had in the new 3DS. Oh well, money saved.

 

[Sephiroth_VII]

Not releasing the normal n3DS is retarded, but I don't see the issue in it not coming with a charger. It's a very minor expense, and a major waste of resources to provide it for all the people who already have a charger. I hope their next handheld uses microUSB though.

 

[Syntsui]

I believe it's actually the opposite, and the reason there is no AC adapter included is because of European laws. European laws prohibit proprietary charges for mobile devices, they require all phone-like devices to use micro-USB chargers, but you can get around that by not including the charger with the product (I believe Apple uses the same trick). Why they're doing it in the US now I wouldn't know. Parity, I suppose?

Interesting, thanks.

 

[Derpyduck]

It hasn't bitten them in the ass for the two years they have already been doing it. No reason why it suddenly will now.

We have no idea how much the huge dropoff in sales from the DS to the 3DS has to do with their anti-consumer behavior.

It's also a matter of the retail situation in America, though.

How is it different in Europe? Nintendo is struggling as badly or worse there.

 

[Mechanized]

When it could save you tens of millions and simultaneously generate tens of millions by selling said charger without pissing off too many people (remember you are on GAF). Sure it makes a ton of sense. Like a lot of sense.

Yeah I'm sure all those moms that buy their kids this new 3DS won't be pissed at all when they get home and find out they have to go back to the store to buy a charger. This isn't a "gaf" thing. Stop being a corporate apologist.

 

[Fularu]

This would be a non-issue if we could charge it via USB with those cables we all own.

A 3DS usb charging cable is 2$, get one anyway, it's a life (game) saver!

 

[Cream]

Nope, especially since I was gonna buy for faceplates. NoA fucked themselves on that one though. So fucking backwards.

.

 

[Firestorm ZERO]

I completely agree that a charger should be included. Got me thinking though, did PSP and PSVita get the same hate for requiring a proprietary memory card purchase to use the system (because who doesn't save their games)?

Well the Vita 2000 sorta fixes this. Since the 2000 comes with 1GB internal memory. Also for some retail games sometimes the saves, updates and even the DLC is stored on the cart. But even so, Vita will still get hate regarding memory cards.