NIS America: a Game-Key Card on the Nintendo Switch 2 is the most beneficial option for our customers
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nial
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Everyone shits on Activision all the time and you think people are only targeting Nintendo? Lmao.
MSduderino
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I hadn't heard of COD doing a "key disc" until now so just recognizing it as well.
nial
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It was definitely talked about here when it happened with MWII.
Miyazaki’s Slave
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If they are saving money on the cart size then that savings should trickle down. Unless they are charging you the additional $10 for the ability to resell the game key card version.
JPSLotus97T
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Solaris is such a great film.
Just got the 4k of Barry Lyndon in the other day to watch at some point. Actually I've got a stack of Criterion 4k's I still have yet to see. I need to get on that.
Crayon
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Something something game key cards. Anyway...
So Wife had also been meaning to watch Barry Lyndon for the longest time just like me, and we made a home-date out of it. We got champagne, pâté, fancy olives and other stuff we imagined aristocrats ate. It was a great time. In fact, I should find some other classics we both haven't seen. I haven't see lawrence of arabia but she has, she's never seen ghandi but I have.
I shouldn't be stumped. I can ask homeboy right here at work for recommendations. Or apparently, I can ask some of you guys.
So Wife had also been meaning to watch Barry Lyndon for the longest time just like me, and we made a home-date out of it. We got champagne, pâté, fancy olives and other stuff we imagined aristocrats ate. It was a great time. In fact, I should find some other classics we both haven't seen. I haven't see lawrence of arabia but she has, she's never seen ghandi but I have.
I shouldn't be stumped. I can ask homeboy right here at work for recommendations. Or apparently, I can ask some of you guys.
RickMasters
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Effigenius
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No it isn't. If we are talking brand new games, sure. Or old games in the $20-40 price point. But old games sold for $50-70 can fucking cover the cost. Yakuza 0 is routinely $5 on other platforms. No excuse why that can't be on a real cartridge.
Heimdall_Xtreme
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You're on the right way NIS America
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mèx
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You love to see that. Get fucked. A collector's edition should have the game on the cart as a bare minimum.
Heimdall_Xtreme
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StereoVsn
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You're on the right way NIS America
Hopefully, NISA and other companies take some lessons from this. Part of this is on Nintendo, but 3rd parties need to get to an understanding with the House of Mario and push for having a variety of cart sizes (16GB, 32GB, etc.).
And there is no excuse not to have full cart in $100+ collector editions.
Physiognomonics
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All of that would have not happened if Nintendo had done good engineering job at having a variety of cheap cart sizes.
They could have but weren't interested into putting some effort into those 2 things as they were so eager to get digital profits right away (and not in 5 years). So they forced 3rd party to use those key cards. It's not working.
They could have but weren't interested into putting some effort into those 2 things as they were so eager to get digital profits right away (and not in 5 years). So they forced 3rd party to use those key cards. It's not working.
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Same ol G
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You talk like you were in the room when making these decisions.
There is probably a good reason why they choose to go this route, it wouldn't be the first time that people on gaming forums and youtube think they know better than a company that's over a 100 years old.
As much as people hate to admit it, this is the only choice though.
Kataploom
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And the reason is that manufacturer Macronix didn't want to provide smaller sizes at a reasonable price, but they saw their own loses on revenues and acted accordingly:
Nintendo Switch 2 Cartridges May Be Changing
Nintendo Switch 2 cartridges may be set to change in a certain way that could have big ramifications for the game-key card issue.
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YeulEmeralda
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PC is the master race because we don't have collector morons.
cireza
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Shifty1897
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I don't own a Switch 2 yet, but when I get one, a game being a key card will probably factor into my purchasing decision but isn't necessarily a deal breaker.
Example: The Tales of Elliot will be a key card, but will also be on PS5. Decision: I will buy it on PS5.
Bravely Default Remastered looks like it will only be on Switch 2 as a key card. Decision: I will buy it used on Switch 2.
Example: The Tales of Elliot will be a key card, but will also be on PS5. Decision: I will buy it on PS5.
Bravely Default Remastered looks like it will only be on Switch 2 as a key card. Decision: I will buy it used on Switch 2.
cireza
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This is the right choice honestly. Especially for a game like this that has no reason to require massive patches.
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hououinkyouma00
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You guys make to for it with all the other morins that think they are better then everybody else
Cyberpunkd
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Doesn't seem to hurt Switch 2 numbers. Then again as always the only party they will benefit from the console will be Nintendo.
Cyberpunkd
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It wouldn't be the first time that a company lost billions due to stupid corporate decisions. Hell, in case of companies like Intel and Nokia they might even brain fuck themselves out of existence.
Physiognomonics
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This. Sony did the RD to provide their customers the ability to add cheap external storage, MS did not. in the same Way they did years of RD to create a cheap and reliable liquid metal cooling solution because they really wanted that while MS used onerous existing techs to cool their console.And the reason is that manufacturer Macronix didn't want to provide smaller sizes at a reasonable price, but they saw their own loses on revenues and acted accordingly:
Nintendo Switch 2 Cartridges May Be Changing
Nintendo Switch 2 cartridges may be set to change in a certain way that could have big ramifications for the game-key card issue.
It's almost always about a RD / engineering problem. We can send robots to the planet Mars but we can't make cheap 32GB Switch 2 cartdriges? Only because Nintendo wanted to force their customers to fully embrace digital, which they do not.
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What was the last VHS tape you bought?
cireza
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R&D to plug a SSD ? Liquid metal being some kind of struck of genius while it gets super dry just as much as thermal paste ?
And Xbox are not more expensive than PS5 so where is the gain for the PS5 customers exactly ?
The only genius idea Sony had was to remove the 40 screws that are used to lock the shielding in the Slim revision.
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cireza
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Especially when you end up not selling anything haha.
DownLikeBCPowder
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You used to.. I was one of them. They simply stopped putting product to market.
I collect VHS tapes
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Deerock71
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You're on the right way NIS America
They would've kicked ass putting them all on the card.
poppabk
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Just means nearly all the copies they sell are digital only - meaning bigger profit margin.
ReBurn
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Or "cloud version" where you just stream the game from the internet 100% of the time. I don't understand why anyone would buy those.
Robb
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DownLikeBCPowder
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Yep, and then they can cite "lagging physical interest" as a reason to go even moar digital. What a deal!
asdasdasdbb
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At some point the Collector Whores have to realize people aren't buying your game 20 years from now.
ShadyAcshuns
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I think this GKC is "failing" is just mis-information using cherry-picked scenarios like Disgaea 7, which people who wanted it already bought it on Switch or PS. I bet most GKC's are selling just fine.
DownLikeBCPowder
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Could be. Can't say. I can only offer personal anecdote, I didn't buy Bravely Default yet because of this. Sadly will likely be buying stuff like Elliot on Playstation even though I'd rather have it on Switch without doubt.
What does this mean? People are buying 20, 30 year old games this very day.
ShadyAcshuns
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I don't see why it matters where the data is stored when the end game is the same product. Only sound reasons why I could see someone choosing something else are: data caps or bad internet.
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jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
One thing about "where the data is stored" is that with GKCs, the data for the game is stored either on your Switch 2's internal memory (limited) or on your Micro SD Express card (expensive). Some games like Yakuza 0 take up 50+ GB, so it's not exactly inconsequential.
ShadyAcshuns
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Yeah I get that, but most Switch 2 games are significantly smaller than the average game on PS or XB in size, and if people can afford to adopt a new $500 system and a bunch of games, a few SD cards shouldn't be much of a problem.
Signalis
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Surely you meant PC is the moron race. Because that makes more sense
Heimdall_Xtreme
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Wow... I hadn't seen it that way.
With the Nintendo Switch 2, I was willing to buy at least 5 games at the current price, or even more, but with the arrival of the Keycard, instead of buying 5 games a month... It was reduced to 1 or none.
Thanks Nintendo for helping me save more money. Now I'll do the same.
I'll wait for the price to drop and stop supporting them at full price...
With the Nintendo Switch 2, I was willing to buy at least 5 games at the current price, or even more, but with the arrival of the Keycard, instead of buying 5 games a month... It was reduced to 1 or none.
Thanks Nintendo for helping me save more money. Now I'll do the same.
I'll wait for the price to drop and stop supporting them at full price...
