I'm not saying it isn't dumb, but it's even dumber to be ranting and raving about it like some posters in this thread. We're not talking about overpriced DLC that underdelivers or shady pre-order exclusives that ask you to buy games sight unseen, we're talking about a measly $5 charger that they've already stated won't come in the box.
About Nintendo's decisions on the New 3DS for America
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I'm not saying it isn't dumb, but it's even dumber to be ranting and raving about it like some posters in this thread. We're not talking about overpriced DLC that underdelivers or shady pre-order exclusives that ask you to buy games sight unseen, we're talking about a measly $5 charger that they've already stated won't come in the box.
moltonasty
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You can buy AC adapters for like $3-5 on ebay/Amazon. Yes, Nintendo are dumb for not including it. But anyone who needs a charger can get one easily and for cheap. No need to have a heart attack over it.
Not including the charger is annoying but it doesn't really affect me since I have an extra charger anyway.
But if I was a customer who didn't already own some kind of 3DS, I would be making sure to look for deals where I could get my money's worth. I totally wouldn't pay $199 just for a system with no charger.
It's not as shocking as y'all are making it out to be tho.
But if I was a customer who didn't already own some kind of 3DS, I would be making sure to look for deals where I could get my money's worth. I totally wouldn't pay $199 just for a system with no charger.
It's not as shocking as y'all are making it out to be tho.
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It is pretty stupid to not include an adapter. But to not buy the system because you'll have to spend another $5 for the adapter? That's even more stupid. I probably won't end up getting a NEW 3DS, as I don't use my 3DS much anyways, but I think its rather silly to disservice yourself over such a small issue.
It is pretty stupid to not include an adapter. But to not buy the system because you'll have to spend another $5 for the adapter? That's even more stupid. I probably won't end up getting a NEW 3DS, as I don't use my 3DS much anyways, but I think its rather silly to disservice yourself over such a small issue.
lyrick
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You think they fill your car up for you?
TheChewyWaffles
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Is the AC adapter for the new 3DS the same as the old one?
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Actually, yes, my brand new car did have a full tank of gas. It also had an engine, trunk, hood and wheels.
Better boycott most gaming companies then.
I don't get why it's invalid? Because it is common practice to include the charger? That doesn't make it invalid, it just makes it stupid and anti-consumer on Nintendo's part, but it doesn't change the point of how it could make them more money. Plus common practices change. Devices used to always come with an adapter and cable, now many are coming with just the usb cable. What if I didn't have a PC or laptop to plug into? Now I have to go buy an adapter. Practices change, this is just a drastic one, and again anti-consumer. But it's not an invalid business practice.
And there's the stupid DLC comparison again. Without DLC, my game still works. Without the charger, my handheld won't. And if it's just measly 5 dollars to the consumer, that means it was just a measly 50-90 cents to the company too cheap to include it.
The ones that are as open about their anti-consumer policies as Nintendo is, I do. This combined with their moronic account system just makes it easier and easier to leave them behind completely.
Pathfinder
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akidnamededdy
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I've never driven a car off the lot without a full tank of gas.
blast processed
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Same could be said for Mobile gamers spending $600 on a new phone, then complaining about a game that was released at $1.99 instead of .99 or free.
The places where people actually live in Austrailia are way more dense than most of the US. The biggest markets in Europe (Germany, UK, France, Italy, Spain, etc) have higher population densities than the US...There are "boondock" places in NA as well...
"Maybe" - Don't need no maybes. Twitter is exploding. Youtube is exploding. GAF is exploding. GoNintendo is exploding. Kotaku is exploding. There is demand, among the Nintendo faithful, for the regular N3DS. Let's quit this "Americans only like big electronics" argument.
Haint
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Give it up guy, you made a stupid comment and you're making it worse.
Polioliolio
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I don't care if it's "nothing new".
Not including a means to charge the device you just purchased is unacceptable and worth raising a stink about as long as it's happening.
If that's how they want to do things.. because they think most people will already have a charger, then they need to slap an enormous sticker on the box saying "DOES NOT INCLUDE CHARGER. CHARGER MUST BE PURCHASED SEPARATELY"
Not including a means to charge the device you just purchased is unacceptable and worth raising a stink about as long as it's happening.
If that's how they want to do things.. because they think most people will already have a charger, then they need to slap an enormous sticker on the box saying "DOES NOT INCLUDE CHARGER. CHARGER MUST BE PURCHASED SEPARATELY"
StriKeVillain
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Funny enough - this probably isn't far from the truth.
Petrae
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It's "a few extra dollars" for a necessary item that consumers here in the US have not had to pay for in more than a decade, and it adds to the price tag. It's the principle of the matter, not the cost, that turned me away.
I'm not gonna support bullshit like this, not that it matters since there's apparently plenty who don't give a shit. I'll stick with my Old 3DS until it dies.
So now that you boycott Sony, Microsoft, Steam, EA, and Nintendo..... What do you game on?
lyrick
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Huh?
Actually, yes, my brand new car did have a full tank of gas.
Congrats! On the bonus gas and the ability to buy a bunch of discontinued (no longer produced) stuff!
You're truly a master of the internet
Er, yes, they generally do.
WrenchNinja
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We're talking about a consumer electronics device that requires a charger to freaking work but doesn't include one being released in 2015.
If it's only a measly $5, why isn't it included then?
Scratch that, to all the people complaining about people complaining, since it's so fucking cheap, why don't you go foot the bill for one person who complains. Cause y'know, it's only $5.. Chump change, right?
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You made the bed, lay in it.
A PS4. If I felt Sony were being as shit as Nintendo, I'd stop. But you know what? Sony lets me play my digital games wherever I want, at no extra cost and I don't have to call them up and ask for permission to download them again onto a new console. I did avoid the Vita because it required a memory card to play games, and they chose not to include that card. But please resume you blind devotion to all things Nintendo.
This is probably 100 percent accurate. At this point they're probably not expecting to reel in anyone that hasn't been convinced already. And next year we'll most likely see the actual real new handheld.
TheCongressman1
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For a huge corporation, you know, the people who manufacture it for a fraction of the price and then sell it for profit? Yeah, it should be on them, not the consumer.
Gucci Messiah
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Your post is so incoherent I don't know what you're trying to say exactly but I can tell you're an apologist for the decision not to include a charger in the box. I'm sorry man but there's no defending this decision; it's inconvienient for consumers and a cheap move on Nintendo's part. I'm not going to boycott the company or anything silly like that over this but they deserve to be called out for this lunacy.
I love how me and a couple others are the only ones addressing OPs question of why it might be cost effective for Nintendo to do this. Everyone else is just interested in labeling others as defenders or apologists and then hating on Nintendo. Go do that somewhere else in the announcement thread.
I'm happy to be proved wrong on my opinions, but at least my opinions are on topic and can be discussed.
Answered this before. Because they might sell 10 million of these things and if they do that's $50 million saved plus the extra $50 million they make from selling them. That's a lot of money. $5 is measly, but not at high quantities. It's easier to push that off on individual consumers than to swallow it whole as the manufacturer. Shitty? Yes. Dumb business move? Maybe, we'll see. I work at an engineering firm, when we know we are selling thousands of a unit, if we can save $10 on packaging, parts, etc we'll do whatever we can to do that. Why should Nintendo be any different? They just did it in appalling way to many.
I'm happy to be proved wrong on my opinions, but at least my opinions are on topic and can be discussed.
Answered this before. Because they might sell 10 million of these things and if they do that's $50 million saved plus the extra $50 million they make from selling them. That's a lot of money. $5 is measly, but not at high quantities. It's easier to push that off on individual consumers than to swallow it whole as the manufacturer. Shitty? Yes. Dumb business move? Maybe, we'll see. I work at an engineering firm, when we know we are selling thousands of a unit, if we can save $10 on packaging, parts, etc we'll do whatever we can to do that. Why should Nintendo be any different? They just did it in appalling way to many.
lyrick
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It's a courtesy not a requirement.
Alcoholikaust
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New Cars come with full tanks- and here in Jersey: I dont pump my own gas-
lyrick
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but you have to live in Jersey... and it's not a requirement it's a dealership courtesy.
Gucci Messiah
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Have you ever purchased a car? It comes with gas. Do you think the dealership leaves the tank empty and says 'lol we don't include the power source, you gotta go walk to the nearest gas station 5 miles away and get it, then come back and fill up so you can drive off the lot'
akidnamededdy
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Dude plz just let it go.
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None, really. Why does this matter? Do you own any another Nintendo handheld that came out in the last decade? Cool, you're set without having to add to your amazing collection of charging cables. If not, spent an additional 5 bucks on a cable when you pick the system up. If this is supposed to be about principles and respect and stuff we should probably end this conversation right here as I have no interest in where this is going.
Suzushiiro
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No AC adaptor would be somewhat excusable if they used a standard USB plug for power like every other electronic device that is not made by Apple does these days, but last I checked they don't, so it's pretty horrible. I guess they're expecting that most buyers are going to be existing 3DS owners who are upgrading, effectively passing the cost of the AC adaptor down to whoever is going to buy their old model used?
Speaking personally, the fact that we're only getting the XL for now is kind of a relief- I'd have only been tempted to buy day one if I could get the small model, because as an owner of an XL and a Vita going from the Vita's glorious OLED to the XL's massively lower dpi is annoying as hell. I'm sure their market analyst dudes had their reasons, and I'm sure we're going to see the lite later on, by which point it will probably have more games worth buying one for.
Speaking personally, the fact that we're only getting the XL for now is kind of a relief- I'd have only been tempted to buy day one if I could get the small model, because as an owner of an XL and a Vita going from the Vita's glorious OLED to the XL's massively lower dpi is annoying as hell. I'm sure their market analyst dudes had their reasons, and I'm sure we're going to see the lite later on, by which point it will probably have more games worth buying one for.
The PS3 was never sold with an HDMI cable.
I find this whole thing quite interesting from a cultural perspective. When this happened a few years ago in the EU, we moaned about it but shrugged it off as a minor inconvinience. But Americans have taken it very badly. To the point of boycott threats. It's facinating to me.
Do you think they expect you to push the car to the nearest gas station?
You haven't once proven that Nintendo is taking a huge monetary hit by including a power cable in the US. So it's not on anyone to prove you wrong until you can actually prove you're right.
PS3 didn't require a proprietary HDMI cable. And it also functioned just fine without an HDMI cable. If the 3DS could be powered/charged by an every day run-of-the-mill USB cable, I'd care much less than I do. But it's proprietary, and by not including that they're anti-consumer dicks.
akidnamededdy
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Wickerbasket
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To the people saying that not including the charger isn't a big deal, would you feel the same if they didn't include the power cord with a home console?
I just want to know how consistent we're being.
I just want to know how consistent we're being.
lyrick
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Are you saying cars only drive on full tanks of gas?
TheChewyWaffles
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I personally don't care since I have two chargers but I can see why people are mad. If Apple did this on their next iPhone there'd be a congressional inquiry into the matter, a summit in Geneva for heads of state, and a March on Washington.
Not including a charger for an electronic device that needs charging is a head-scratcher.
Not including a charger for an electronic device that needs charging is a head-scratcher.
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装甲悪鬼村正;147420896 said:
Because of Nintendo account policies you are forced to trade or sell your current system. You can't have downloaded games on multiple systems. I would gladly keep my 3ds xl but whats the point when most of my hands are downloads.
Pathfinder
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If the power cord was $5, I don't think I could bring myself to care all that much.
I'd grumble about it maybe, but it wouldn't stop me from enjoying the product.
The Xbox 360 power bricks cost about £40 (Probably more for an XBO)