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[xaszatm]

Coaching shouldn't be allowed, ever, and this has been brought up consistently in the community but TOs don't enforce any hard rules or ban it and it's EXTREMELY annoying. It happens in Melee too and it's bad there. I don't understand it, it keeps happening and it's worse here because they lost a day.

Well, according to the commentators literately right now, they said coaching is important because it allows the players "time to breathe".

...really? It also slows it down by a long time, especially certain player's "coaching" time.

 

[QisTopTier]

Depends on how they play, I'm not paying attention to the stream. But Sonic is very slow in his approaches and Dabuz is Dabuz. But 6WX is an aggressive/more offensive Sonic player so there is a high chance I'll be wrong.

Oh so you are just talking out your ass. Gotcha!

 

[Sixfortyfive]

Yeah, people say this and it's pretty clear that they don't know anything about Melee. It's like asking MvC players to start playing MvC4 if MvC4 suddenly played like SFIV. Melee players don't have a similar game to play in feel so they have no choice.

SF5 will at least be in the same ballpark in terms of "feel."

SF2, SFA, and SF3 hardly resemble each other at a mid to high level at all.

 

[Daouzin]

Yeah, viewers started dropping. wasn't it at 84k earlier? Time for Melee. That doesn't happen in Melee top 8. views get higher and higher.

This. It's the first time Smash 4 has been in a tournament this big from what I understand. Melee has been in this position plenty of times.It's success is why it's gotten the final and potentially prime time slot. If a sacrifice has to be made it should be made. It's crazy this tournament is even taking place. If something has to give to make it work it should. What's important ultimately is the finale being broadcast and if time is a factor they should start Melee now on another channel or off screen so they can make the switch right away.

So let Melee build up the scene for the last 13 years and then let Smash 4 reap the biggest benefits. yeah, okay....lol

 

[FZZ]

Oh so you are just talking out your ass. Gotcha!

If you don't believe Sonic matches are slow I don't know what to say. I don't talk out of my ass for Smash, never needed to. Almost all Sonic matches I've seen are very long.

I've been hella wrong on a lot of things, but I don't fling shit out and expect it to stick I'm still basing this off of past matches and what I've seen.

 

[Cody_D165]

GUYS

I GOT TO LEAVE WORK EARLY

FINALS HYPE

 

[Professor Beef]

Oh so you are just talking out your ass. Gotcha!

If you don't believe Sonic matches are slow I don't know what to say. I don't talk out of my ass for Smash, never needed to. Almost all Sonic matches I've seen are very long.

I've been hella wrong on a lot of things, but I don't fling shit out and expect it to stick I'm still basing this off of past matches and what I've seen.

"I'm an expert," etc

 

[?oe?oe]

Smash community mascot:

 

[balladofwindfishes]

Yeah, viewers started dropping. wasn't it at 84k earlier? Time for Melee. That doesn't happen in Melee top 8. views get higher and higher.

lol
It was at 84, then 10 minutes later, 79, then 10 minutes later, back to 84, then 86, now 80

Literally dead game

 

[NipplesAndToes23]

good shit.

 

[Azuran]

Getting kind of sleepy now.

People usually head to bed when they're feeling like that

 

[SmackAttack]

GUYS

I GOT TO LEAVE WORK EARLY

FINALS HYPE

THAT'S AWESOME

TOO BAD THERE'S NO HYPE

ONLY SALT

SORT OF

 

[FZZ]

"I'm an expert," etc

lol because that's what I said

 

[Mr. Smiley]

So not20xx stream chat talking about "Melee is cancelled." Is this a thing or just fuckery?

 

[mrlion]

So not20xx stream chat talking about "Melee is cancelled." Is this a thing or just fuckery?

kinda wish it was true...

 

[QisTopTier]

So not20xx stream chat talking about "Melee is cancelled." Is this a thing or just fuckery?

Why would you believe something from stream chat?

 

[Sixfortyfive]

So not20xx stream chat talking about "Melee is cancelled." Is this a thing or just fuckery?

Show's over, folks. Everyone can go home.

 

[Vena]

Dabuz literally just running away.

 

[Jigolo]

Fuck sm4sh right now

 

[Mr. Smiley]

Why would you believe something from stream chat?

*Shrug* I'm half getting work done, half watching two Smash streams. My common sense is probably lacking right now.

 

[NipplesAndToes23]

What the fuck happened in the sky?

 

[QisTopTier]

HAHAHAHAAHA Luma wins

 

[balladofwindfishes]

Why do they keep booing when Rosalina wins?

 

[xaszatm]

So not20xx stream chat talking about "Melee is cancelled." Is this a thing or just fuckery?

They're also saying that Mango is in jail. What do you think?

 

[dragonlife]

Wow, what a kill

 

[Mr. Smiley]

They're also saying that Mango is in jail. What do you think?

:B

 

[Daouzin]

SF2, SFA, and SF3 hardly resemble each other at a mid to high level at all.

Yeah, but you aren't suddenly losing a certain amount of moves between them. It's hard to describe the problem other than Melee allows a lot more freedom then recent Smash games.

Ground and near ground options are cut by like 90% in the new games. I was going to make a thread about it, but thought people had enough of, Melee is better. Since Smash doesn't have any real competitors in the genre people just don't seem to get it.

Basically imagine you played SF 2 and 3 with HK, MK, LK, HP, MP, LP that you could use at almost anytime then SF4 came out and said, in this situation you can only use, HP, LK, in this situation you can only use MP, HK, in this situation you can only use LP, HP. Wouldn't that ruin the game for you?

The great thing about Melee and PM is that you have so much control and so many options that creative play flows through you and the amount of expression through character control is extremely high. Smash 4 and Brawl don't allow this to the same extent so it's like a painter using 5 colors instead of the full color spectrum.

Dabuz literally just running away.

Smash 4 high level play, red flag.

 

[QisTopTier]

Why do they keep booing when Rosalina wins?

People like rushdown. So a more passive character is "boring" and typically unliked On top of that Dabuz is playing maximum passive. Which is good it's working for him.

 

[Leiru]

They're also saying that Mango is in jail. What do you think?

Damn what did he do?

 

[xaszatm]

Why do they keep booing when Rosalina wins?

Dabuz is unpopular and is Roslina tends to run away, which is boring to watch. He also is infamous for doing long (even for smash) "coaching" sessions just to play for more time.

 

[Magnet_Man]

I would love for someone to make a video compilation of all the times Sky said "amazing".

 

[Brqan]

They're also saying that Mango is in jail. What do you think?

when did he get out?

 

[Vena]

Smash 4 high level play, red flag.

No, that's just Dabuz. He got punished for it.

 

[syncyes]

Is Melee top 8 even going to happen at this rate? Are we going to have another grand finals in a parking lot with no crowd?

 

[Ultra Numb]

I can't wait to see how long Melee Top 8 takes to finish compared to Smash 4 top 8.

 

[Darryl]

I would love for someone to make a video compilation of all the times Sky said "amazing".

i feel like this is the only time his commentary catches my ears

 

[Pappasman]

I wonder if the venue still has a midnight curfew.

 

[Micken]

Man 6WX looks so tired.

 

[TheOGB]

After all that time Dabuz just now finishing the set? Damn

 

[xaszatm]

IGNROE

 

[Professor Beef]

Dabuz literally just running away.

Why should he not if it's been working for him? Not everyone needs to rushdown.

 

[Vena]

I can't wait to see how long Melee Top 8 takes to finish compared to Smash 4 top 8.

Why don't you ask Melee doubles which ended 4 hours late?

Why should he not if it's been working for him? Not everyone needs to rushdown.

I didn't stipulate one way or the other, but he got punished when he just up and ran. He likes to hug the edge, though, hiding behind Luma.

 

[Pikma]

I can't wait to see how long Melee Top 8 takes to finish compared to Smash 4 top 8.

So whatever's the result, What will it prove? That Melee is a "faster" game? :lol

 

[QisTopTier]

Why should he not if it's been working for him? Not everyone needs to rushdown.

Yup and if he loses Luma trying to fight when he's not around is asking for death.

 

[Starphoenix]

So, did they do that announcement thingymabobber?

 

[Nanashrew]

when did he get out?

Just recently. As he hardened in prison he grew an awesome beard to match his new demeanor

Spoiler

 

[Codeblue]

Actually hope Dabuz makes it to Grand Finals just to see if he can take Zero out by running away.

 

[woodland]

Holy shit kill me now this is so boring

 

[K.Sabot]

Hating the player is pointless, they're just trying to win (which is the point).

 

[Axass]

Actually hope Dabuz makes it to Grand Finals just to see if he can take Zero out by running away.

Big spoiler:

Spoiler

he can't.