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Yup. With Gies reviewing it at Polygon we know for sure that's almost a guaranteed 6, at most.

Other sites will take points off for lack of MP, or QTEs or Whatever, but I think we've been expecting that pretty much since it was unveiled. Still getting it day 1.


If the games is very good there is no way it's getting sixes or sevens. There is no denying quality. If the game is incredible it's gonna get good scores
 
You just admit that it's gray to the point of lightning and fire having color, elevates them to good artistic expression in your mind... That's not a good thing to be honest. Sure it's well made, but it's still the same gray,brown and gloomy blob that has been done a dozen of times. It is "lazy" and unimaginative to use the same shape that everyone else is using, even if the result is more smooth.


If you cannot see the well thought out use of color, in the images, gifs and youtube links.., then you should probably self evaluate the proficiency of your judgments in regards to color and composition.

There is nothing "not good", "gloomy blob" or "lazy" in the visuals presented.
If you do not like the aesthetic of it, then fine, but nothing you are saying rings true of this overall visual composition.
 
If the games is very good there is no way it's getting sixes or sevens. There is no denying quality. If the game is incredible it's gonna get good scores

thats not always the case. Look at Nier, Drive Club, Ryse, or even knack. There are fans of all of those games that really love them.
 
Those two images should tell you whether metacritic is important for your purchasing decision or not.

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Those two images should tell you whether metacritic is important for your purchasing decision or not.

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Everyone really needs to just pick sites they trust and get their reviews only from them. MC uses a ton of reviewers and chances are some of those reviewers don't resonate you.
 
If the games is very good there is no way it's getting sixes or sevens. There is no denying quality. If the game is incredible it's gonna get good scores

Game A gets 7s across the board from every major outlet.

Game B gets either 9s or 6s across the board.

Both games have the same metacritic average, one of them is so polarizing that people would either really love it or really hate it (Beyond is a good example), while the other one got more consistent but none being stellar reviews.

How would you be able to tell the difference using metacritic?
 
Can't wait for the day when gamers stop caring about Metacritic scores past and future. You don't see this level of obsession in movie fans.

Doing away with some number and letter grades is a good start.
 
Well, it certainly looks filmic.



No seriously, it does and I'm very impressed. Have no idea when I'll be able to play this game but I'd love to run through the campaign at some point. Looks great.
 
If the games is very good there is no way it's getting sixes or sevens. There is no denying quality. If the game is incredible it's gonna get good scores

You say that but I'm pretty sure Polygon gave The Last of Us a 7 when they first reviewed it. That won GOTY from pretty much everyone and was hailed as one of the greatest games of last gen… still they scored it a 7. I don't agree with their scoring at all.

If you mean as in all critics scoring it a 6-7 then I can see your point. I think The Order will appeal to fans of single player action adventure games with a focus on a strong narrative. Personally I love those kind of games, especially these days where the majority major single-player releases seem to be open world.

I'd imagine The Order hits around the 75-80 mark on Metacritic when the dust settles and so people who played it will either say they enjoyed it or didn't and everyone else will just remember it as an 'average game'. Even though it'll likely be pretty decent.
 
You say that but I'm pretty sure Polygon gave The Last of Us a 7 when they first reviewed it. That won GOTY from pretty much everyone and was hailed as one of the greatest games of last gen… still they scored it a 7. I don't agree with their scoring at all.

If you mean as in all critics scoring it a 6-7 then I can see your point. I think The Order will appeal to fans of single player action adventure games with a focus on a strong narrative. Personally I love those kind of games, especially these days where the majority major single-player releases seem to be open world.

I'd imagine The Order hits around the 75-80 mark on Metacritic when the dust settles and so people who played it will either say they enjoyed it or didn't and everyone else will just remember it as an 'average game'. Even though it'll likely be pretty decent.

If there is gloating over 75-80 range I will be embarrassed
 
Everyone really needs to just pick sites they trust and get their reviews only from them. MC uses a ton of reviewers and chances are some of those reviewers don't resonate you.
I would say everyone needs to try games they're interested in themselves and form their own opinions. There's no site or reviewer in the world who I agree with 100% of the time.
 
You say that but I'm pretty sure Polygon gave The Last of Us a 7 when they first reviewed it. That won GOTY from pretty much everyone and was hailed as one of the greatest games of last gen… still they scored it a 7. I don't agree with their scoring at all.

While I don't agree with the score, I think the reviewer explained himself pretty well with that review. And he admitted that this was his own reaction to the game, that it was too bleak and stressful for him to enjoy. Of course, critics in other mediums would acknowledge those feelings as evidence that what they were experiencing was "art," but that's another story. My point is that I liked that Last of Us review, because the reviewer was willing to put himself out there a bit.
 
I haven't been following the game at all since the first reveal and watched some footage now.

Why do all the enemies have automatic weapons? I can understand the player getting some crazy scifi guns (though I don't like it) but all that machine gun fire just feels wrong in the setting. I'm a sucker for anything Victorian but they've managed to make it feel like any other generic cover shooter.

The black border stuff is hilarious. That's one way to cut down on rendering I suppose.
 
So much brown...oh well looks fantastic anyway and yeah not a fan of 21:5 ratio but I got use to it fast enough in Enemy Within,hopefully I wont be bothered by it after a while here also...
 
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d9/Crystal_Palace_-_interior.jpg

It was not a gray/brown blob of homogeneous mass. I don't like their artistic take on it.
Are you taking the piss ? That is a painting of The Great Exhibition of the Works of Industry held in a purpose built structure known as The Crystal Palace.
It was located in Hyde Park and was to be visited by dignitaries and some of the finest minds from around the developed world. Hardly indicative of the late 1800's industrial London.
Drink some overdrive while you brush up on your history.
 
Are you taking the piss ? That is a painting of The Great Exhibition of the Works of Industry held in a purpose built structure known as The Crystal Palace.
It was located in Hyde Park and was to be visited by dignitaries and some of the finest minds from around the developed world. Hardly indicative of the late 1800's industrial London.
Drink some overdrive while you brush up on your history.

I'm pretty sure people are convinced that no matter what time period you go to, that apparently it's extremely (almost to a cartoonish extent) colorful.
 
I'm getting some major Ryse vibes with this game. Ryse was absolutely better then the reviews. This game could review horribly and I will probably still love it. In fact I find myself more and more troubled by reviewers nowadays... Some of the best games I played this past year didn't review particularly well.

I'm still not paying more then 50$ for it though.
 
Looks better than a lot of games released today.

We're getting closer. The next generation should see it done with that kind of IQ if resolution holds at 1080p as standard allowing for more computationally intensive AA methods to become norm (at least those target 30fps).
 
thats not always the case. Look at Nier, Drive Club, Ryse, or even knack. There are fans of all of those games that really love them.

There's people that love pretty much every game. None of those games you mentioned were treated unfairly by reviewers.
 
I'm getting some major Ryse vibes with this game. Ryse was absolutely better then the reviews. This game could review horribly and I will probably still love it. In fact I find myself more and more troubled by reviewers nowadays... Some of the best games I played this past year didn't review particularly well.

I'm still not paying more then 50$ for it though.

Find reviewers that coincide with your tastes and stop reading the ones that don't.

If a game is good that you don't know about, I'm sure you will read about it on gaf
 
Game A gets 7s across the board from every major outlet.

Game B gets either 9s or 6s across the board.

Both games have the same metacritic average, one of them is so polarizing that people would either really love it or really hate it (Beyond is a good example), while the other one got more consistent but none being stellar reviews.

How would you be able to tell the difference using metacritic?

Click the list of reviews of the game on Metacritic and read the excerpts. Then click on the reviews from the sites you like.
 
Find reviewers that coincide with your tastes and stop reading the ones that don't.

If a game is good that you don't know about, I'm sure you will read about it on gaf

Honestly, I find just watching twitch streams and asking myself "does this look fun" is enough for me nowadays

It hasn't failed me to this point.
 
Read some of the Driveclub reviews, particularly the Gamespot one.

There were some valid criticisms but there was also some laughable ones.
I'm talking about their average score. There's always reviewers that lavish too much praise as well as reviewers that do the opposite. It all evens out most of the time.

Honestly, I find just watching twitch streams and asking myself "does this look fun" is enough for me nowadays

It hasn't failed me to this point.

Same. And if it's a good streamer that takes time to answer viewer questions, it's even better. Nothing I've seen of The Order has interested me yet, but I'm going to jump on the first Twitch streams I can find and see if that changes my opinion. If so, I'll put a pre-order in digitally.
 
We're getting closer. The next generation should see it done with that kind of IQ if resolution holds at 1080p as standard allowing for more computationally intensive AA methods to become norm (at least those target 30fps).

Shadow Fall already looks phenomenal (looks better than SS & Ryse IMO). I'm talking about current gen multiplatform titles, GoW & KZ on PS3 look far better than a lot of the multiplats on PS4 like Watch Dogs (resolution aside).
 
I'm talking about their average score. There's always reviewers that lavish too much praise as well as reviewers that do the opposite. It all evens out most of the time.

The opinion of a game's quality always going to be subjective so it's kind of a pointless argument.

That said there's many excellent games with criminally underrated scores on metacritic, and there's some games on there with scores 20 points over what they deserve.

It's just further proof that you can't use the site to tell you what's good and what isn't.
 
I think, for anyone that's on GAF, the opinions of fellow GAFers are probably a better metric for whether or not a game is going to be to their liking.

I'd say that goes even more so for games with nuance or complexity as reviewers don't know what that is.

I have yet to be let down by GAF recommendations and impressions on the few games where I used it to determine my purchase.
 
I think, for anyone that's on GAF, the opinions of fellow GAFers are probably a better metric for whether or not a game is going to be to their liking.

I'd say that goes even more so for games with nuance or complexity as reviewers don't know what that is.

I have yet to be let down by GAF recommendations and impressions on the few games where I used it to determine my purchase.
Yep

Once you know which gaffers you typically agree with, you've officially found the best video game buying guide on the internet.
 
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