I think the biggest thing is the shadiness. Knowingly putting out a broken product, refusing to provide refunds for it, continuing to advertise said broken product, keeping broken product on store shelves so they can continue to profit from broken product, not issuing a recall, and not fixing the problem.
Halo: The Master Chief Collection is STILL broken after 100 days
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Sounds like 343 listening to Halo 4 feedback and then including sprint in Halo 5 lmao.
Head.spawn
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You are the vocal minority at this point in regards to sprint. How are people still not getting this?
Feedback from H5 beta said people wanted sprint as well.
You know sprint was in Halo Reach as well, right? Also in Destiny. Odds that Bungie would've kept it the same if they were still working on the franchise are insanely high.
lol, another one of these eh? Can't wait for next week's.
Probably because there isn't one. Some people have no issues, some people have tons. I personally made it through Halo 1 and 3 during launch month in online co-op with no issues. Halo 2 went fine in online co-op as well until Delta Halo, which would always crash in the same spot. My buddy and I ran into a couple more issues while working through H2 in the months following launch, with desyncs and whatnot. I managed to finish a level for us where we desync'd though, and it became a fun little challenge in itself. I also ran into an issue with a West Coast friend (East Coast myself) where Halo 3 would slow to a crawl, so he wasn't able to join us as a fourth. I beat Halo 4 solo with no issues.
Matchmaking is hit or miss, and I've had varying success since launch. Some days I get games instantly (depending on the playlist), some days it'll take 3 or more searches before I get one. I also haven't had a ton of issues searching with parties, outside of friends getting put on the opposite team.
I get why people are upset, and I too am somewhat disappointed; if the game never gets patched to a relatively stable state matchmaking wise, it'll be a real shame. That said, some of the hyperbole I've seen on this site is insane, and I always get a good laugh from these threads.
Probably because there isn't one. Some people have no issues, some people have tons. I personally made it through Halo 1 and 3 during launch month in online co-op with no issues. Halo 2 went fine in online co-op as well until Delta Halo, which would always crash in the same spot. My buddy and I ran into a couple more issues while working through H2 in the months following launch, with desyncs and whatnot. I managed to finish a level for us where we desync'd though, and it became a fun little challenge in itself. I also ran into an issue with a West Coast friend (East Coast myself) where Halo 3 would slow to a crawl, so he wasn't able to join us as a fourth. I beat Halo 4 solo with no issues.
Matchmaking is hit or miss, and I've had varying success since launch. Some days I get games instantly (depending on the playlist), some days it'll take 3 or more searches before I get one. I also haven't had a ton of issues searching with parties, outside of friends getting put on the opposite team.
I get why people are upset, and I too am somewhat disappointed; if the game never gets patched to a relatively stable state matchmaking wise, it'll be a real shame. That said, some of the hyperbole I've seen on this site is insane, and I always get a good laugh from these threads.
JonathanNemo
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I propose we have another one of these threads for the 1 year anniversary of MCC still not being quite there.
365 days of MCC being kind of ass, we can make an advent calendar out of it!
365 days of MCC being kind of ass, we can make an advent calendar out of it!
Seriously though I feel bad for every developer, PR person, tester, and person sub-upper management that had to ship this thing out. I've done bad things in the name of contracting on a much smaller scale, and I can sympathize.
bet you us long time, passionate Halo fans feel worse...
Andrew Ryan: "With all the comments being made in this thread concerning halo MCC it's funny that this is what you come out to respond to."
Tashi (343 Community Coordinator): "There's not much of anything for me to add than what's been said through official channels. I'm really just a HaloGAF'er with lots of friends here that I've made over the years."
Tashi (343 Community Coordinator): "There's not much of anything for me to add than what's been said through official channels. I'm really just a HaloGAF'er with lots of friends here that I've made over the years."
Mr. Enigma
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https://twitter.com/Danayoub
Executive Producer Dan Ayoub's Twitter continues to be a desolate wasteland. He hasn't Tweeted since November 13. He used to Tweet almost everyday for three years prior.
Executive Producer Dan Ayoub's Twitter continues to be a desolate wasteland. He hasn't Tweeted since November 13. He used to Tweet almost everyday for three years prior.
Dlacy13g
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Pretty much this ^^^ These threads with many dramatic rants are fun with a bit of popcorn.
Night Angel
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That surely makes it all better. -.-
The latest bulletin was to tell us that the next bulletin will have an ETA for the patch.
It should fix the vast majority of issues, but I still see playlists, ranks, game settings, maps and gametypes and all that shit being a real long tail for updating and fixing. If it ever really gets done.
I am kind of interested what these fundamental changes are ...
This means why they did not go this way in the first place ;-)
These threads always fail to mention the real problem of 343/Microsoft: somehow, somewhere there are a bunch or suits of that demanded that the game was released before the holiday and 343i had no choice but to comply for obvious reasons. Microsoft doesn't even have respect for their biggest franchise, the one that basically defined the brand. They simply threw 343i under the bus and won't even come forth to defend their handpicked team. Being Ms 1st party must be a terrifying position sometimes.
This. The MCC was a scam, plain and simple. MS sold a broken game, knowing it was broken, because fuck you, we need to win NPD.
This post from the HaloGAF thread sums up these playlist and overall matchmaking concerns very well.
It's going to be a problem for a while, and Halo 5 will most likely be out before they are fully addressed. Then MCC will truly be on the back-burner as 343 focuses heavily on pushing and sustaining Halo 5's population, MCC's population will be an afterthought at that point.
I'm not saying it makes it better at all. 343 need to keep working on it. The fact that it's still broken for so many people is a massive shame.
However claiming it's entirely broken isn't true. To give them some credit, it's better than it was at launch. That said, that's not particularly impressive.
That'll just make the situation even worse.
At least DC is working properly now.
How long did it take for DC to work properly?
I called probably 5 times? Sadly nothing. No help no nothing only a "it is on your end" stuff . I could have done a chargeback but I am afraid that they would ban my XBL account I have used since the xbox live beta on the first xbox.
Sanpei
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We have learned that
Collecting four games with online multiplayer in a single disc with one UI is not a good idea...
If they didnt merge them on a single UI , maybe many of these problems would not happen...It's a very complicated thing...Bad decision
I prefer separate four Halo games on a single disc but working properly...
Collecting four games with online multiplayer in a single disc with one UI is not a good idea...
If they didnt merge them on a single UI , maybe many of these problems would not happen...It's a very complicated thing...Bad decision
I prefer separate four Halo games on a single disc but working properly...
Banjo-Kazooie
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And MCCs SP has always worked too, unless you count achievement glitches.
Banjo-Kazooie
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What a truly shit post.
Gtfo with that shit.
DC's sp has always worked. If this is true then it's not even close.
SP has worked from the start. MP wasn't as broken as this and clearly not 100 days.
Sintoid
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Less than MCC - It's months since I had last problem
Cant remember on top of my head, but I'm pretty sure it didnt take more than 2 months though.
But i thought 343i redeemed themselves with halo:mcc ?
Seriously though, that sucks. Why isn't MS sending their famous engineers to save the day? Do they not care about the most important IP they ever owned?
Seriously though, that sucks. Why isn't MS sending their famous engineers to save the day? Do they not care about the most important IP they ever owned?
AcceptableGhost
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because they have probably gotten the majority of the money that MCC will ever make already in the first couple months
i would be surprised if they ever fix this game properly
Unless you count crashing.
I have realized there is nothing Microsoft can do about this collection to satisfy everyone. To me, Single player works and matchmaking needs to be faster with ranking added. That's it.
For others who spend says posting about white balance issues and what I consider to be minor PC vs console version differences, I can't imagine they will be happy for a long time. There is a new attitude about this game that will fester, no matter what is fixed, someone will rage over something they find broken.
I have given up. What sucks so bad is that when it plays well, it plays so good. I really want to play Halo.
Halo 3 playlist is no where near as fun as Halo 3 for example, no Shotty Snipers is inexcusable. Team Snipers playlist, both times I played it, it ended up as 1v3 and each time someone leaves it freezes the game that people get a free kill.
I tried Rumble Pit (oh my god please it is always the same H2A map over and over) and when I was winning, the "host" quit and we all got dropped from the game.
Not to mention that even if you play Custom Games with someone on XBL on Halo 1, it plays horrible.
My Halo 4 Custom Game doesn't work. I set it to have Grenadier but it doesn't work. I have a Halo 4 disc and I have compared all of the options and it just doesn't work the same on Xbox One, giving me less grenades for my Game Type ��
Halo: MCC is great for Campaign
Great for Split Screen
But online is like Halo 1 Xlink Kai
EDIT: Checkpoints do save like normal now from my experience. Some things have been patched.
Halo 3 playlist is no where near as fun as Halo 3 for example, no Shotty Snipers is inexcusable. Team Snipers playlist, both times I played it, it ended up as 1v3 and each time someone leaves it freezes the game that people get a free kill.
I tried Rumble Pit (oh my god please it is always the same H2A map over and over) and when I was winning, the "host" quit and we all got dropped from the game.
Not to mention that even if you play Custom Games with someone on XBL on Halo 1, it plays horrible.
My Halo 4 Custom Game doesn't work. I set it to have Grenadier but it doesn't work. I have a Halo 4 disc and I have compared all of the options and it just doesn't work the same on Xbox One, giving me less grenades for my Game Type ��
Halo: MCC is great for Campaign
Great for Split Screen
But online is like Halo 1 Xlink Kai
EDIT: Checkpoints do save like normal now from my experience. Some things have been patched.
-hadouken
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I'm one of them. All will be forgiven if they (fix it) then offer Reach DLC (Firefight is essential - even if it's just offline for couch play.)
Oddvintagechap
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People probably do and will need to get fired. They didn't do their jobs. Simple.
Well, it's not about the money MCC can still make but more about the flagship IP that Halo is. When you're MS, if you fuck up Halo, you lose your fanbase trust, and i don't think you can put a number on that.
Sleight of Jam
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What a mess they've of this. I can't believe its been 100 days and its still such a clusterfuck.
This completely deterred me from buying halo 5. 343i have lost my trust entirely.
This completely deterred me from buying halo 5. 343i have lost my trust entirely.
Breakfast at Noon
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Bought xbox one for it played for about 3 hours swapped it on gumtree for a second ps4, now me and my boy play destiny together 
fantastic.
fantastic.VaultBoy101
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I bought the game for the single-player campaigns only, no interest in multiplayer. During the first couple of weeks I definitely had issues (game crashing completely, checkpoints not saving) and shelved it for a while. I've been playing again over the past couple of weeks and have had zero issues. Played through all of Halo 2 and I'm halfway through Halo 3 now. All checkpoints have saved as they should when I've quit in the middle of a mission.
Regardless, I have no plans to buy Halo 5 due to the poor handling of this whole debacle.
Regardless, I have no plans to buy Halo 5 due to the poor handling of this whole debacle.
Not the case for everyone. Last night I couldn't get a game to save my life. But, some nights I can party up and get some decent games in. The game is a mess and 343 are a bit of a joke.
I called probably 5 times? Sadly nothing. No help no nothing only a "it is on your end" stuff . I could have done a chargeback but I am afraid that they would ban my XBL account I have used since the xbox live beta on the first xbox.
Unlucky, I got a refund with no resistance at all. The rep was agreeing with me. I would keep trying. They did say you could only get 1 refund on a digital title so I have switched to physical.
343 Trying to fix this mess
loooool
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