Dreams-Visions
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Every song, man. Every fucking song.
So good.
So good.
Kendrick Lamar - To Pimp A Butterfly |OT| It's The American Dream
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Pinko Marx
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The first time I heard it I thought he said "Pop!? Pop!?" and thought he was talking to his dead father that whole time (I have no idea if his dad is dead or alive). I didn't make the connection with the voice or anything like that until the 2nd playthru.
Love how in many tracks when listening with headphones, the vocals have a surround sound effect.
I also prefer the previous version of "i", more so because of the transition of voices when
"From a negative and letting them annihilate me
And it's evident I'm moving at a meteor speed
Finna run into a building, lay my body"
I also prefer the previous version of "i", more so because of the transition of voices when
"From a negative and letting them annihilate me
And it's evident I'm moving at a meteor speed
Finna run into a building, lay my body"
BishopLamont
Banned
kendrick actually topped gkmc, no one thought that was possible
new "i" so much better
tbtb makes more sense now
mortal man
alright
the intros, the interludes/skits
momma
hood politics
intro to outro, all a1
when the shit hit the fan, is u still a fan?
god damn
new "i" so much better
tbtb makes more sense now
mortal man
alright
the intros, the interludes/skits
momma
hood politics
intro to outro, all a1
when the shit hit the fan, is u still a fan?
god damn
Thornton Reed
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I'm getting the feeling he has done something extremely special here. It's something we will be talking about yeArs to come and looking back appon as a turning point in the muisc industry.
It's just an exceptional piece of work
It's just an exceptional piece of work
theignoramus
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After like the umpteenth listen Im thinking the best songs on the album are as follows
How Much a Dollar Cost-5/5, Top to bottom perfectly executed and one of Kdot's best songs ever.
The Blacker the Berry-5/5
These Walls-5/5,The instrumentation on this one is incredible, the first 20 seconds of the beat feel like audio sex.
Mortal Man-4.5/5
Hood Politics:4.5/5
Institutionalized-4.5/5 Another sonically amazing track, the "zoom, zoom,zoom" part when the instruments kick sounds like some incredible floating on clouds shit and it's good enough to make you forget you just heard Ana Wise say "Massa take these chains off me"
The Snoop cameo is on point.
Complexion:4.5/5-Love the strings on this one and the Pete Rock cameo is appreciated.
King Kunta:4.5/5-Loving the funky beat on this one and the sardonic humour in kdot's lyrics.
How Much a Dollar Cost-5/5, Top to bottom perfectly executed and one of Kdot's best songs ever.
The Blacker the Berry-5/5
These Walls-5/5,The instrumentation on this one is incredible, the first 20 seconds of the beat feel like audio sex.
Mortal Man-4.5/5
Hood Politics:4.5/5
Institutionalized-4.5/5 Another sonically amazing track, the "zoom, zoom,zoom" part when the instruments kick sounds like some incredible floating on clouds shit and it's good enough to make you forget you just heard Ana Wise say "Massa take these chains off me"
The Snoop cameo is on point.
Complexion:4.5/5-Love the strings on this one and the Pete Rock cameo is appreciated.
King Kunta:4.5/5-Loving the funky beat on this one and the sardonic humour in kdot's lyrics.
turnbuckle
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This just gets better and more affecting the more I listen to it. And, like gkmc it gets better the more I read about it. He's 3 for 3, and incredibly improving with each album.
My favourite application of this is on the last verse of These Walls. I was lying down in bed and it felt like Kendrick was hovering just above me.
to me it's like the agony that they both feel before they ha-a-a-a-a-a-ve....SEX. that's why the buildup is like that. they are temporarily muting that pain by having sex, hence the drop into the song proper.
they aren't having sex for noble reasons, they're both trying to fill a void within themselves. they're both just trying to cover up the pain that they feel when they're not having sex.
yeah listening to this album with proper headphones is an experience. Institutionalized is the headphones jam for me too. the way Kendrick's voice on the first beat slowly goes through your head as he's talking about being trapped inside the ghetto and then the way the "zoom"s flutter around your head later. the production on this album is flawless.
WE SHOULDA NEVAH GAVE
WE SHOULDA NEVAH GAVE DEEZ NIGGAS MONEY
you goddamn right
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxdZHXS8DN4
(also not sure if this nod specifically is included but almost every shout out to other artists on this album are artists that had some issues with fame, one way or another. dave had some serious issues with not wanting to do certain things for his show and had to dip out of the country for a while. I think Kendrick knows some evil fucking things that happen in the industry that he isn't able to explicitly talk about. hence the song part of mortal man.)
Net_Wrecker
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I just want to point THIS out again in case anyone missed when I posted it a few days ago. The finger snapping, the piano, the chorus chant building slowly, the way the song starts, and even that particular inflection of moaning is all from the Smooth Criminal video (I'm not even sure if MJ wasn't already referencing something else as well). I'd say the odd pain/pleasure ambiguity is intentional.
oh and after hearing that one of the albums that they were listening to was Abbey Road I can definitely hear some Paul McCartney influence specifically on the bass in For Sale? both in the bass tone and the style of playing/note choices. the bass tone is a touch brighter and more percussive than Paul's warm tone but compared to the rest of the album it definitely stands out. good stuff.
yes! it kind of bugs me how much that beginning drop has grown on me haha.
she just wants to close her eyes and sway
with youuu
with youuu
with youuu
ever since the Colbert performance I've been loving Anna Wise
yes! it kind of bugs me how much that beginning drop has grown on me haha.
she just wants to close her eyes and sway
with youuu
with youuu
with youuu
ever since the Colbert performance I've been loving Anna Wise
CapitalismSucks DonkeyBalls
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WE SHOULDA NEVAH GAVE
WE SHOULDA NEVAH GAVE DEEZ NIGGAS MONEY
you goddamn right
Honestly can't take that line as seriously as I should being that I'm instantly reminded of Chapelle's Prince skit.
panama chief
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Anyone know where to get an instrumental version? I wish labels would put them on iTunes or something.
I think that's intentional though. most of, if not all, of the shout outs and nods Kendrick has on this album are for people who struggled with the evils of the industry. Dave mysteriously left the country and did not fulfill his contract for the rest of Chappelle's Show. he clarified later that it was the stress of being a cash cow and being controlled. there's probably a bit more to it than that, I would imagine.
If I’m tried in a court of law, if the industry cut me off
If the government want me dead, plant cocaine in my car
Would you judge me a drug kid or see me as K. Lamar
Or question my character and degrade me on every blog
I think now that Kendrick is famous he knows some shit that can happen in the industry. when Chappelle dipped out of the country did we buy into the media's speculation that he was psychotic? or did we give him the benefit of the doubt as fans?
CapitalismSucks DonkeyBalls
Banned
Good point, I didn't think of it like that. I knew Dave had dealt with some major shit from CC during his run, but didn't connect the dots here.
Nowhere, unless the label releases them.
Lucy just want your trust and loyalty
Avoiding me?
It's not so easy I'm at these functions accordingly
this album deals with some shit. Kendrick basically implicates the entertainment industry for being evil.
northead
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Frightening, so fucking frightening
Enough to drive a man insane, a woman insane
The reason Lauryn Hill don't sing, or Kurt Cobain
Loaded that clip and then said bang, the drama it bring is crazy
This was in hiipower.
yep. scary shit for sure and now with his fame Kendrick has seen first hand how scary it can be.
some ultimate burn shit right there...
I fucking love this Album - from what i have read before listening it i had mixed feeling and thought Kendrick would stray away to far from what he is known far...but its the opposite, thats exactly the kind of LP i expected from an artist like Kendrick.
Album is getting better with every re-listen. I am at 3-4 times now, keep pushing the format.
My favorites so far:
The Blacker the Berry
u
King Kunta
How much cost a Dollar
Mortal Man
Hood Politics
Gotta hit rapgenius this weekend, havent had time for it yet but its probably needed for that LP.
Album is getting better with every re-listen. I am at 3-4 times now, keep pushing the format.
My favorites so far:
The Blacker the Berry
u
King Kunta
How much cost a Dollar
Mortal Man
Hood Politics
Gotta hit rapgenius this weekend, havent had time for it yet but its probably needed for that LP.
you mean Rick James
Man I remember everyone calling Dave crazy when he did that. They even did on the show.
we should never ate
we should never ate
Prince's pancakes go back home
pancakes go back home
see I was thinking of the Chapelle skit where he shouted "they should have never gave you nigga's money!" while crawling on the floor and I was assuming he was nodding to Rick James struggle in the music industry and perhaps drug problems.
CapitalismSucks DonkeyBalls
Banned
You're right, I meant Rick James from the beginning. It was that exact line and scene I had in mind as well. Thanks for the correction!
yeah I know that was a joke ;p
and I think he's also referencing Dave Chappelle and how he left Chappelle's Show and the country mid-production because he felt like he was being milked and controlled. the media tried to spin it like he was psychotic but he was not.
when shit hits the fan...
god dammit. -_-
lol! I thought I missed a verse or something. But reading back clearly it was a joke.... I need coffee...
haha no worries man. I drink about 4 cups every morning so I feel you ;p
I would have also shit a brick laughing if that was actually a verse on the album
kenny, remix pls
CountBlack
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Imagine if that Untitled track from Colbert was on this
Where do you fit it? I can't see it working anywhere but as a bonus song.
CountBlack
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Probably after How Much a Dollar Cost tbh
BishopLamont
Banned
so happy to see the universal positive reception this album is receiving, really shows that some people are waking up at least
You'll come around. I wasn't feeling it until my millionth listen. On top of that, I didn't like Snoops verse until recently.
shit....probably between Institutionalized and These Walls since it's within the same context of both songs.
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