Kendrick Lamar - To Pimp A Butterfly |OT| It's The American Dream

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I'd give it a 7/10 right now. I like the album, but it's nothing I'd spend money on...at the moment.

I'm going to listen to it today while I wrap up these CAD plans I have due tomorrow
 
Thornton Reed said:
For me Kendrick doesn't need another album to be considered a better artist than biggie. Like i said i think biggie is kind of overrated.

A great album to compare 'ready to die' to is 'illmatic'

both came out around the same time, both debut albums, both MC's from new york

For me 'illmatic' is probably the greatest hip hop album of all time where as 'ready to die' is just a good debut. Granted i wasn't old enough to have followed the impact that 'ready to die had' and i imagine it was considered ground breaking at the time, but returning to it now I don't think its this work of art that some people consider it.
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You're entitled to your opinion, but I think you'll be hard-pressed to find many people say either of Kendrick's albums better than Ready to Die. If Biggie is "overrated", it's from him having a untimely death, kind of comes with the territory.
 
Thornton Reed said:
is life after death considered a proper biggie album? Or is it like and r u still down situation? I know biggie was dead by the time it was released
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Pretty sure it's a proper album. I want to say he recorded it like a normal album but died before it was released. Now, whether that would have been the final track list had he been alive, who knows.

edit: wiki says it was supposed to release in 96, but was pushed back and he ended up dying like 2 weeks before it was released. Puffy killed him for album sales confirmed.
 
This album is incredible. It's even better than Section.80, and goes so hard with the political message. u is one of the most emotionally charged songs I've ever heard, and the last two tracks blew my mind.

Pop. Pop. Pop.
 
King Kunta is such a jam.

Alright is awesome awesome.

Blacker the Berry is always really hype

i is a jam also.





Thought I feel kinda weird enjoying a lot of these songs, like to the point where they feel good such as Alright, despite the lyrics being the opposite.
 
RBK said:
You're entitled to your opinion, but I think you'll be hard-pressed to find many people say either of Kendrick's albums better than Ready to Die. If Biggie is "overrated", it's from him having a untimely death, kind of comes with the territory.
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i think TPAB is better than ready to die in every single way a record can be considered better than another.
 
Auctopus said:
I assume you're spelling that phonetically and you know he's saying 'Pac'.
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Oh, huh. I assumed that it was an imitation of a gunshot, which is why the last one cuts off the musical swell. So much of the album deals with violence.

That really changes things, haha.
 
phanphare said:
loving "u" is complicated, confirmed
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Wait TPAB is better than Ready or Die??!?!!

Why I didn't get the memo?

TPAB is amazing on so many levels but that's a huge statement to carry. Ready to Die was a game changer in 1994/5. It brought back east coast hip hop from a long sleeper hold of the West Coast and put Bad Boy records on the map. As much as I love this album and play it like it's a daily religion...to put it over Ready to Die is such a huge statement.
 
Thornton Reed said:
people are to scared to make statements like the one i just made, even if the truth is smacking them around the ears ;)
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Your bravery should not go unnoticed.

All I'll say he's doing a good job so far solidifying his spot as one of hip-hop's greats, more so than his peers not named Drake.
 
RP912 said:
Wait TPAB is better than Ready or Die??!?!!

Why I didn't get the memo?

TPAB is amazing on so many levels but that's a huge statement to carry. Ready to Die was a game changer in 1994/5. It brought back east coast hip hop from a long sleeper hold of the West Coast and put Bad Boy records on the map. As much as I love this album and play it like it's a daily religion...to put it over Ready to Die is such a huge statement.
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I think TPAB will ultimately be ranked among albums like ready to die, reasonable doubt, etc. People will always argue over which is better, but I think it's hard to deny that Kendrick's album is of that caliber. It's timely, clever, cohesive, emotional, genre-bending, and wholly unique among the current landscape of hip-hop.
 
I think Pac/Pop is deliberately made to sound like it could be either.

By the time you hear the next pop, the funk shall be within you.
 
'Alright' came on at the bar on Saturday night. I gave the DJ props.

Had no idea that was Pharrell until just now. Did he also produce the beat?

Great album btw. Probably gonna end up in my top 5 of all time.
 
Rollo Tomasi said:
'Alright' came on at the bar on Saturday night. I gave the DJ props.

Had no idea that was Pharrell until just now. Did he also produce the beat?

Great album btw. Probably gonna end up in my top 5 of all time.
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Yeah he produced it with Sounwave. And yeah I didn't even realize that was him on the hook until I saw the credits.
 
Rollo Tomasi said:
Probably gonna end up in my top 5 of all time.
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+1

Not sure if I expected another hip-hop album to reach that rare air. But it for damn sure has.

Nice to see most feeling the same way about it being excellent. We can have a proper echo chamber circle jerk now. Also, I need a lot more Assassin in my day.
 
And people were worried this thread wouldn't arrive at unmitigated hyperbole and exclamation when TPAB first dropped. Just took little while for the train to leave the station is all.
 
breakfuss said:
...am also considering asking my pops to give it a listen. Not sure how to approach the conversation.
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yeah haha. I printed out two copies of all the lyrics for them and I'm gonna go through and write in stuff that they might not understand (like what a "sloppy" is lol). I think they'll both dig it.
 
OrangeGrayBlue said:
I think TPAB will ultimately be ranked among albums like ready to die, reasonable doubt, etc. People will always argue over which is better, but I think it's hard to deny that Kendrick's album is of that caliber. It's timely, clever, cohesive, emotional, genre-bending, and wholly unique among the current landscape of hip-hop.
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I agree with this...the album is timeless.

pokeystaples said:
Is Pac's voice not instantly recognizable to people?
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It came out of left field to be honest. At first I thought it was a member of the Last Poets or some shit like that until I heard the laugh o_o. I was like Pac....PAC!!! PAC???1
 
OrangeGrayBlue said:
I think TPAB will ultimately be ranked among albums like ready to die, reasonable doubt, etc. People will always argue over which is better, but I think it's hard to deny that Kendrick's album is of that caliber. It's timely, clever, cohesive, emotional, genre-bending, and wholly unique among the current landscape of hip-hop.
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This is a great post.

I have just been listening to how much a dollar cost in the way home, the kid is a genius. The way he tells stories and switches characters is one of his greatest abilities as a rapper
 
I really enjoy Kendrick's way of story telling. It's goes into perspective like wearing the person's shoes compared to how most rappers do story telling where it's all "I knew this man, once upon a time, and etc".

I cringed hard at that time of story telling in hip hop.
 
Nibel said:
The one true young king of hiphop right now, sorry J.Cole fans.
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Cole was in the running? I like him but I'd rather listen to Kendrick instead of listening to him brag on and on for like 5 straight tracks...

FHD was ok, only liked like 2 songs of there.
 
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