Kendrick Lamar hype.... I don't get it.

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Wow. Album is very very solid, and a true follow up to Food and Liquor.

You listen to Tetsuo and tell me its unlistenable after going back and listening to LASERS.

Unlistenable lmfao, myriad hyperboles in this thread

There are tracks worth going back to LASERS for. What does T & Y have?

Murals? Prisoners?
 
There are tracks worth going back to LASERS for. What does T & Y have?

Murals? Prisoners?

Ill give you this: all black everything was the best track on Lasers.

Tetsuo has Murals, Prisoner 1&2, Little Death, Deliver, And adoration of the Magi as standouts.

Come on now Marty, cmon b.

Edit: peeped the fresh edit there marty, throwing in Prisoner 1&2
 
Fjordson, i mess with you, as i see you in the Jazz hop thread. I like you, and i respect your opinion, i just always thought he was very weak and cant take him seriously.

That said he is killing it, but in different ways than Ken
Haha, I feel you. I was mostly kidding. My dark secret is that I'm sort of a Drake stan, but he's not profound or anything and I get why some people aren't into his stuff.
 
Lasers sucks, but at least list All Black Everything and I'm Beamin.

The original Lasers shits on the release version. I actually had the mixtape with most of the tracks that were suppose to be on the album but I can't find it :(.
 
I don't listen to much hip hop but TPAB is transcendent of genre. So much variety: voice, inflection, tone, beats, themes, historic reflection, etc. That song where you here the glass and ice cubes clang, while he "cry raps" that was emotional shit, I don't care what you say about that. That is just one small but poignant example of a man with a powerful message.
 
Ill give you this: all black everything was the best track on Lasers.

Tetsuo has Murals, Prisoner 1&2, Little Death, Deliver, And adoration of the Magi as standouts.

Come on now Marty, cmon b.

Edit: peeped the fresh edit there marty, throwing in Prisoner 1&2

I forgot it existed until I pulled up the track list :P

I do not know about everyone else, but almost every single on Lasers stands fine by itself. The monumental failure is the album as a whole.

With Tetsuo, I would only ever want to re-hear maybe 2 - 3 track tops. And that would be fine if the entire thing did not ALSO fail as an album. Just happens to be mediocre this time instead of Lazers' awfulness.
 
Haha, I feel you. I was mostly kidding. My dark secret is that I'm sort of a Drake stan, but he's not profound or anything and I get why some people aren't into his stuff.

And tbh, i used to like two tracks of his, old tracks though, for whatever reason, they were catchy. It was more about the mood than the lyrics contained within.

But of course, i can understand why people like him, and dont knock it anymore. Except for when one comes out and calls the rare rap album that has substance "corny". Insane.
 
I don't listen to much hip hop but TPAB is transcendent of genre. So much variety: voice, inflection, tone, beats, themes, historic reflection, etc. That song where you here the glass and ice cubes clang, while he "cry raps" that was emotional shit, I don't care what you say about that. That is just one small but poignant example of a man with a powerful message.

Can't wait to hear Drake follow in Kendrick's footsteps with his own "sob bars."
 
I forgot it existed until I pulled up the track list :P

I do not know about everyone else, but almost every single on Lasers stands fine by itself. The monumental failure is the album as a whole.

With Tetsuo, I would only ever want to rehear maybe 2 - 3 track tops. And that would be fine if the entire thing did not ALSO fail as an album. Just happens to be mediocre this time instead of awful.


We have to agree to disagree then. Though i will say this: "they reminisce over new" and "Madonna" couldve been cut from the album.

Tron feels like a bonus track and Maddona is forgettable.
 
While I think op unfairly paints all the fans with a broad brush I have to say if you guys dont find the institutionalized chorus and for free at least somewhat corny....I dunno guys. That's some of the worst shit I've heard from any artist let alone one with talent like kendrick

The For Free 'hook' is probably the one thing that hasn't grown on me like the rest of the weird voices have. Which is a shame because I've come to really like the rest of that verse.

I actually really like Institutionalized though.

2pac is pretty corny but at least that's just on the end so you can ignore it and just take the message from the first few times you sat through it.

Not that much of a fan of boo boo either. '...and your new bitch, boo booo' makes me crack up but not in a good way.
 
For me he hits a note that indie music in the eary 2000's had. Since 9th wonder kind of botched JUSTUS League he gives me the shit I need in a overly saturated cash money/weak lyrics great beats market.

He's also not overtly arrogant like Lupe and can still get deep without being pretentious.

Yup, gave me the same kind of feeling. Not sure why you feel 9th messed up what they had going there, though.

Not even 2 weeks yet...
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Man but this shit is timeless though. Over the span of "2 weeks" I've listened to it more than I have any album in the last 2 years so your point is moot. Is there some sort of cooldown period before I can make the claim? Yesterday, it was announced Lauryn Hill's record would be inducted into the Library of Congress and I expect the same to happen with TPAB. Calling that shit now lol. This is truly one of the best, most ambitious projects I've experienced. Not for everyone and that's okay!
 
The For Free 'hook' is probably the one thing that hasn't grown on me like the rest of the weird voices have. Which is a shame because I've come to really like the rest of that verse.

I actually really like Institutionalized though.

2pac is pretty corny but at least that's just on the end so you can ignore it and just take the message from the first few times you sat through it.

Not that much of a fan of boo boo either. '...and your new bitch, boo booo' makes me crack up but not in a good way.

The 'boo boo' is my only annoyance with the album, actually is pretty distracting from the entirety of the track, its just annoying af.
 
Man but this shit is timeless though. Over the span of "2 weeks" I've listened to it more than I have any album in the last 2 years so your point is moot. Is there some sort of cooldown period before I can make the claim? Yesterday, it was announced Lauryn Hill's record would be inducted into the Library of Congress and I expect the same to happen with TPAB. Calling that shit now lol. This is truly one of the best, most ambitious projects I've experienced. Not for everyone and that's okay!
I'm just going to guess the last album that had this kind of impact on you was Good Kid, Maad City? I never even said I don't like the album, but it's not a 10/10, maybe not even a 9/10.

For what it's worth, Pinata is a much more enjoyable listen but it's hardly ever going to be considered a "classic" album given the stature of the album.
 
People who make threads like this should tell us what music they do like or think is great. Then we would at least know what we are dealing with.
 
Tell me, what are your favorite Rap albums. Hold on no, what are the rap albums you think are influential to this day?

Some of my favorite hip-hop albums of all time? Oneirology, My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy, Stankonia, SSLP, Doctor's Advocate, Food and Liquor, Return of 4Eva.... Just to name a few.
 
Lol at people trying to diss Tetsuo and Youth. If Lupe released TPAB and Kendrick T&Y, people would say Lupe's album suck and T&Y is GOAT.
 
Some of my favorite hip-hop albums of all time? Oneirology, My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy, Stankonia, SSLP, Doctor's Advocate, Food and Liquor, Return of 4Eva.... Just to name a few.
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This will be the general reaction. I'm telling you now. I'm sorry.
 
I haven't even listened to To Pimp A Butterfly yet, but Kendrick has been amazing from the beginning.

And you're really coming at his music concerned about what others think about the "shit you bump"? Scared it might sound "corny"? His voice not as deep as other rappers? Really? C'mon. Maybe you need to listen closer.
 
I'm just going to guess the last album that had this kind of impact on you was Good Kid, Maad City? I never even said I don't like the album, but it's not a 10/10, maybe not even a 9/10.

For what it's worth, Pinata is a much more enjoyable listen but it's hardly ever going to be considered a "classic" album given the stature of the album.

lolol that's funny. I really liked GKMC so probably. The last hip-hop album I'd designate as "classic"? Only going back 10 years? I'm sure I'll overlook something. Maybe Late Registration, MM..Food, How I Got Over, The Listening, Friday Night Lights...I don't know. Not going to front, I even enjoyed Bastard. These are albums I listened to over and over without getting bored. I like cohesive projects. It sucks because a lot of my all time favorites came out before 2005. That isn't to say there hasn't been a lot of really great stuff released since, but "impact" is an entirely different thing.

Also, if you look in the GAF-hop awards thread you'll see I voted Pinata as my #1 choice. So yeah, I love that album as well, although I do think much of it is carried by Madlib.

When I say TPAB is a classic I don't mean to discredit his contemporaries. I like tons of rappers out right now.

Lol at people trying to diss Tetsuo and Youth. If Lupe released TPAB and Kendrick T&Y, people would say Lupe's album suck and T&Y is GOAT.

T&Y was pretty good from what I remember but it just didn't hold my attention for very long and Lupe has become an insufferable little shit. The Cool is better anyway.
 
Some of my favorite hip-hop albums of all time? Oneirology, My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy, Stankonia, SSLP, Doctor's Advocate, Food and Liquor, Return of 4Eva.... Just to name a few.

And im a fan of all those you mention except i havent heard Return of 4Eva. Throw in all of Tribes discography except the Love movement, (yeah even "Beats, Rhymes, and Life) plus others, and we're 95% in same taste.

Very surprised it didnt jive with you, but Butterfly is miles FAR from corny.
 
I love Kendrick and really do like the album, but I will say I think it's getting overrated a bit. My primary issue with it is while it does tell a story, it puts the story over the actual flow of the album. There's too much bloat that after you get the message and know the story, it ends up becoming a chore to listen to it. I've listened to it a ton, but it got to the point that now I've edited out a lot of the filler to condense it into primarily the actual song portions.
 
I should start by saying that I think he can be a good rapper. Section 80? Good effort, although repetitive and sometimes sleep inducing. Good Kid? Great album, and that's it (it was hyped as the greatest album ever and a classic that would influence rap since it came out. I never saw anything like that).

Now you have his latest album " To Pimp A Butterfly" which got insane reviews, so more than ever I'm convinced that he has to be one of the most overrated artists I've ever seen. This album in particular, what the fuck? What does it make it so amazing and heads above the rest of great rap albums out there?

You would be fucking ashamed if somebody caught you bumping shit like "For Free?" "I" or "King Kunta". This shit is corny as a motherfucker, yet dumbass critics have convinced themselves that this is some kind of cohesive piece of art, and as a result, brainwashed a bunch of people into thinking Kendrick is some kind of Messiah and the only one in the rap game with something to say (sorry Macklemore).

I've listened to "To Pimp a Butterfly" 5 times, from beginning to end, uninterrupted, and I don't get it. Production is boring as fuck. The songs are random, the flows are meh at best, and Kendrick's voice will always be like hearing a chipmunk trying to rap. Not to mention that his albums sound so bloated, what with all those ridiculous long ass skits and interludes. He "interviewed" 2Pac at the end!! Cute. Will I ever hear it again? No.

There's some good stuff like The Blacker the Berry and Hood Politics (except for the annoying "boo boo"), but other than that, this album doesn't do anything for me. After someone posts the idontlikething.jpeg, can you explain what on Earth do people see on Kendrick that makes them go ga-ga for him? How can he get critics riding his dick so hard? Dude has a metacritic score of 96, but I can post a song from an album that has 88 that's better than anything on his latest album.

I'm convinced that if Kendrick Lamar released an album at this point that consisted of him doing fart noises, rapping with his chipmunk voice and terrible accents, and added random long ass skits every other song with parts of the Martin Luther King Jr. "I have a dream" speech, people would try to over analyze things and say the album is a thematic masterpiece that empowers black people, black culture and/or some other bullshit.

I have to agree. I've streamed the album all the way through 5x now and I just don't see it. You have people losing their damn minds over the album, but over what? I read people on GAF saying KL has already surpassed BIG.

Nah bruh. Nah
 
Dunno why everyone's gotta treat all music as something that needs to be constantly replayable.

Nothing wrong with replaying an album that's considered good to the person. My mom used to play the living hell out of her Deniece Williams album.
 
GKMC was an exceptionally well-produced album, but its narrative wasn't much more than an off-the-rack "escaping the ghetto" movie like the Wayans parodied 20 years ago.

To Pimp a Butterfly is an exceptionally OVERproduced album, with like five times as many hooks as it needs, and while Kendrick is certainly skilled like few are in terms of his spitting, his lyrics have about as much depth as an Oprah book.
 
I don't either. His album that just dropped is average at best. His last album was average as well. A few good tracks but that is about it.

The worst thing about him is his voice. It's terrible for what he tries to do. He would be better suited trying to mimic qtip's career under Tribe. As it stands, for me personally, his music is as average as it gets.
 
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