Kendrick Lamar hype.... I don't get it.
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Drunk as fuck and listening to TPAB yet again. jamming on the home stereo. This shit is a bonafide classic, not even relegated to hip hop/rap classic, straight up classic album. There is so much quality music and lyricism going on, if you don't like it, then I question your taste in music as a whole.
-Pyromaniac-
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Not enough people listen to him
If I was drunk as fuck that album would put me to sleep
how, like I don't get it. Does g-funk, jazz, soul, r&b and rap put you to sleep? It's all there, you ain't gotta lie, explain your tastes, cuz I'm confused.
Syphon Filter
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kendrick like j cole i feel have potential and havent been fully realized yet.
If it helps you understand where I'm coming from... Blacker the Berry, Alright, and Momma are the only songs on the album that I consider memorable.
Even King Kunta is pretty bad, the production is awful.
Princess Carl
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wat.
Syphon Filter
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whats wrong?
J Cole is Tylenol PM tier.
Syphon Filter
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they arent that different if you think about it.
diunxx
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MBDTF is amazing. Great album, loads of fun, if not super deep or analytical.
TPAB is amazing too. But there's no way to compare them... totally different things. I'll bump MBDTF in the car, I'll listen to TPAB at home with a pair of headphones on. I'm starting to think that maybe TPAB has more in common with jazz than it does modern hip-hop, and maybe that's where you're finding some at odds with it.
TPAB is amazing too. But there's no way to compare them... totally different things. I'll bump MBDTF in the car, I'll listen to TPAB at home with a pair of headphones on. I'm starting to think that maybe TPAB has more in common with jazz than it does modern hip-hop, and maybe that's where you're finding some at odds with it.
Bingo. At least production wise it definitely does. That is off putting to a lot of people who don't enjoy Jazz, which surprisingly is a lot of people.
Nappuccino
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I don't "get" kanye.
Then again, I don't get most rap that isn't The Roots and Cunninlyinguists.
People seem to be hailing him for the "social issue" that he's bringing to light, but none of that shit is new and moreover barely applies to him.
Not really, I absolutely love jazz hip hop but tpab is in this weird limbo where the jazz isn't really pronounced in the album, so the sound kind of comes off wishy-washy.
He black man from Compton, how does it barely apply to him.
#NotOpressedEnough
Also, I haven't heard the kind of self resentment and depression from hip hop artists that "made it" out of their rough neighborhoods quite like Kendrick exhibits on this album. He covers most of the other aspects of African American oppression, while also condemning himself for making it out of it, that's a pretty rare message to see from a hip-hop star.
The theme just feels very unnatural, He's already successful and it's like he forced himself to look for a message rather than the other way around, so I'm not surprised at his self critique. The pac interview especially was so cringe.
The album is partly about his success and how its affected him, I think his success is important to the message of the album.
How does it feel unnatural? The theme makes perfect sense because he is successful. It wouldn't make sense if he wasn't successful and was an unknown rapper.
Like I said in another thread. I really feel that the word cringe gets thrown at anything anyone doesn't like. Dont know why you dont like something? Well because its cringeworthy.
Or maybe, just maybe he's actually passionate about the content he made and thought that conversation would help people understand the album's message. I dont know though, him trying to please critics makes a lot more sense.
it was more of a hypothetical blow job to Tupac, who Kendrick has idolized since he was a child. I really don't think he was pandering to critics in any way while creating this album. There is plenty of pandering and d riding toward this album from fans and critics, but I highly doubt that Kendrick was pandering to the audience/critics while producing the album.
if he had a truly meaningful message to share, first of all we would have more people talking about that rather than simply coming in and saying omg best album ever 10/10 with no description of why they think so. As it stands, people love riding what's hot and kendrick is no exception.
Second of all, he doesn't need a convo with pac to get his meaning across, I mean he literally compares himself with pac in the conversation which is why I think it's so self-serving. You're free to disagree.
How is that kendrick's fault though? His part was to give people a message with his music which he has done very aptly. How people process that music and use that message is out of his control. Unless you feel that his message was completely pointless (which it wasn't) shouldn't the blame be pointed towards his audience rather than him?
Dreams-Visions
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fucking awful people, those.
I'll just leave this here. Great review which explains why many people love this album.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=EbXfvNuZJ3o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=EbXfvNuZJ3o
Please explain this.
OP, you're not alone, but attacking him or his fans with vague descriptors and no real complaints other than his voice, you're right in thinking someone should post that ok jpg.
I wanna talk more about the album and some things I picked up, but I'm still listening to it. But one thing I'll state is that Tupac interview was terrible. Tupac came off like a rambling militant talking to a stan serving him up questions that could fool some into thinking Pac wrote himself. It's my main complaint with hip-hop, that all these "conscious" rappers have no answers for what we should do. It's all this bravado self-enlightened bullshit about how they beat the game. Lupe's the only rapper being proactive about our plight, trying to at least offer some kind of solution. Even LASERS, fucked as it was, still carried a bit of the message Lu was trying to put out, and it was reaching people who hadn't heard a thing of his since Kick Push. Kendrick, Nas, and the like complain about it but play along. The Nigger album is Nas's greatest work to me, or was, til he decided money was more important(Fried Chicken will never not be amazing). These guys need to actually grow up and stop proving people who say rap is all the same right.
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qizah
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You have some horrible ass taste.
If serious, Alright is better than this.
Pretty sure this was on the freeplay on the Box.
Listen to the album more. He's far from your typical conscious rapper on this, the songs where he actually does some commentary, it's either his experience with the issue (which is part of the whole point of thee album) or he pushes the focus of the issue onto the listener.
There's only really two tracks where he's bragging as well, but even then he's not bragging just for the sake of it.
Thornton Reed
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If you've listen to TPAB and you think it doesn't offer answers to the topics raised then you've totally missed the point of the album.
It's not introverted or subtle. He is pretty blunt about the message on the album.
Cosmic Dreams
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understandable if you didn't enjoy the album or really- kendrick's style of music.
what artists/albums have you enjoyed in these last ten years OP?
what artists/albums have you enjoyed in these last ten years OP?
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Tim the Wiz
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Sorry, but TPAB is going to be timeless. It's the kind of album hip-hop needed, because it's self-reflective, nostalgic and perceptive in a way that more strident conscious rappers often miss, while normalizing their sort of themes. RTJ might be better though.
MoodyFog
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You expect gaf to know K Rino huh
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