Bloodborne |OT+++| ...and so the Nightly Hunt continues
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xplicitone
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It'll be in your wearable inventory area. Hrm... it was near the entrance of the boss fight when I got it. I'd find it odd that it'd just disappear
Thanks all. Somehow it was there after I went a 2nd time
I thought all version of BLB are easy. Same tactics work on all of them.
Load up on poison resist. Dodge toward him, and thus, you get behind him. Go to town hitting him. Repeat.
No.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
I agree its a flaw but its a pretty minuscule one.
Beelzebufo
Banned
I can't help but feel the game would be improved a ton of Chalice Dungeons didn't require all of those materials, or if they did you only needed one of each, and you never needed it again (that way you can still keep cool stuff like the living string, and the materials themselves have cool descriptions).
The dungeons are mentally exhausting if you play more than even a single level in a row, but are also a really nice change of pace and a way to get consumables and souls if you're stuck in the main game. Unfortunately you can't really use them this way because by the time you've gotten all of the materials you don't have much inventive to check out the main game anymore.
The dungeons are mentally exhausting if you play more than even a single level in a row, but are also a really nice change of pace and a way to get consumables and souls if you're stuck in the main game. Unfortunately you can't really use them this way because by the time you've gotten all of the materials you don't have much inventive to check out the main game anymore.
True, but it's a bigger deal than it would be otherwise because it was fixed in the previous game.
graffix13
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Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
High horse? I haven't been riding it, bro. You don't want me riding that shit or I'll only look like an asshole in-front of people who actually respect me in here.
I put hours in quotation-marks because it's something I've heard and read people say since the launch of this game. "I really dislike having to farm blood vials for hours!"
No, no you didn't. You clipped the first line, made an assertion and ignored the rest. You quoted me. Not the other way around. You want to jump into a conversation, have enough respect to the person you are jumping into a conversation with.
On it's own, yeah. All these small issues add up and make the game more annoying than it should be, though.
Machinehead
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is giving me a hard time. I can't parry him for the life of me >< and every hit he takes half of my life, and then I spend two vials to recover.. Pretty different from the bosses I've faced past Father G, which was the last one to truly give me trouble.
agiarus
Guys, I want my second playtrough to be the best since my first play trough was kinda of a "where the fuck am I going? What the fuck am I doing?" And "what the fuck do I do with this item?"
So let's start with some things I did in my first playtrough that may have possibly been the worst choices ever:
1) what was I supposed to do with the music box the girl gave me? I never knew what to do with it. Although I did find her moms pendant, gave it to her, talked to her older sister and gave her the ribbon.
2)The lady with the Crow feather garb near the sewers. Was I supposed to meet her somewhere else? Met her one time and that's it.
3) here i know i screwed up big time when i was sending people to the safe places. I sent the old lady, the chick with the black church outfit and the cannibal (never again) to the chapel and the whore to the clinic, accidentally sent her neighbor to the clinic as well although I know I told him about the chapel first. Are there more people around to send?
Those are a few of a couple more I can't remember lol
1)
You can stun Father G with it to get a few hits in. It's not necessary though. I never used it when I beat him on either NG or NG+.
2)
Yeah, she appears outside of the chapel in the Cathedral Ward and tells you about a target she's going to attack in the Tomb where you fought Father G, you can then go help her(she may die if you don't). She then later appears at the Cathedral, where you have to beat another hunter who can be quite tough. After it all you get a rune to join her covenant and the mark to buy her gear/weapon if you haven't already got it.
3)
From what I remember, there's the old woman just before you meet the crow in Central Y. There's the nun in the Unseen City pre-Rom. There's Arianna and a dude which you can get to if you go all the way down the stairs from the grand cathedral, through the circle, and out that gate then go right to a alleyway. The dude you have to tell him the wrong place, he'll go to the opposite one that you say. The cannibal you should just kill really... or send him to the clinic.
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Oh, and after you have the nun in the chapel, don't accept or drink Arianna's blood. She as a tendency to turn on her, and you if you do. D:
LowlySmokeGuy
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That's true. There are times like that. However, I've seen several videos of people immediately backing off bosses after getting hit, and chugging down a couple vials. I don't think that is the best solution. Vials should be a second option after the regain meter goes away or for certain situations like the one you mentioned.
The earlier ones were really easy since I was way overleved when fighting them. Now it was a proper fight.
I do that due being still little bit stuck on Souls approach to healing. I agree that first option is always regain system and not the vials.
I'm getting better at it. I killed them a few times. 0 blood vials dropped though. :|
Right. If we wanna talk about grinding, let's talk about Chalice material.
I have every starting Chalice, and making a standard progression, and have reached the point where I have to do Chalices over to get the necessary materials to continue that progression, even with all the materials available from both vendors? Do I have that right?
Blood vials ain't got shit on this.
The_Darkest_Red
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Well it's kind of irrelevant to my point because I've never said that. I don't know why you can't just accept that people have different opinions on how player punishment should be handled in these games. There are pros and cons to the different systems.
LowlySmokeGuy
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No I think people are arguing that people should stop wasting vials if they don't want to grind. There are ways to do this. Like study the boss at first, and use the regain system more.
Yet the defense force of all things souls are making such a huge fuss about what is undeniably an imperfect mechanic. There are clear pros and cons, but some people refuse to acknowledge the cons.
piccio_ssl
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blasted A
in defiled dungeon, without take any damage
feels so good
now i've to farm the last materials to finally beat the
ass
mygdala
feels so good
now i've to farm the last materials to finally beat the
queen's
super-famicom
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My Fashionborne setup (for my female Hunter:
Top Hat
Knight's Garb
Surgical Long Gloves
Spoiler for leg attire:
Ariana's Shoes
I'm on my phone but will post a picture later.
Interfectum
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Wanting to be respected and then calling people who defend a legit mechanic a "defense force" is not very consistent.
The_Darkest_Red
Member
The posters defending the mechanic are annoying me a lot more than the vial system ever has. Ironic and sad, haha.
NM. Was thinking of BSB.
Still not hearing a valid reason for this to be a flaw outside of "Well Dark Souls gives you refillable flasks that I can just run from one bonfire to the next and refill. Why do I have to get more vials?"
Also, in NoM, and just got to this long bridge in front of me. To the left is a green elevator and two green switches beside it. Is there a lantern around here or do I have to backtrack? Got a good amount of Echoes and 0 Vials. Don't want to get ambushed or something.
One of the many? Please list them.
Oh BSB yeah that is easy after you figure it out. Really easy to counter with guns.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Where exactly am I not "accepting" peoples different opinions on the subject? There are even some people who aren't fond of the art direction of this game! That's INSANE in my world, but they are opinions. I understand that.
I am just explaining one of the reasons why From Software even used this system. It's pretty obvious, but some people apparently don't think so.
Lantern is right next to that elevator, right of the door
I think it is an apt label when a majority haven't been unreasonable when discussing this topic. Some have been very level headed. Most aren't. You among them.
My comment to you was on an individual level. If you can't engage respectfully and engage the points others are making, do people the favor and don't jump into their conversations. Whether my phrasing is appropriate or not is irrelevant to that.
super-famicom
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I don't think so. You should have gotten a cutscene if you went to the correct location, then
go to the wagon and enter it
-Loading screens.
-FPS drops.
-Boss moveset bug (a big one)
-Online functionality is spotty at best.
-Invader system is fundementally flawed.
-Community systems are almost non existent (covenants)
-Chalice dungeon co-op is a BIG pain
-Build variety is lacking.
-Guns for the most part are all the same.
-Random bugs (such as elevator getting stuck, can't fight boss anymore)
Interfectum
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Please tell me where I have been disrespectful. Because I didn't quote your entire post? My point still stands with or without the entire quote.
The_Darkest_Red
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Ugh, we are arguing in circles. When you say "that works as intended, once again", it is just a backhanded way of saying that people who don't like the system either don't understand or are doing it wrong.
If it's so obvious they wouldn't have come up with the Estus system to begin with. There are other ways to punish the player for dying that don't involve having to grind for items, such as losing a portion of your health in Dark Souls II.
WhiskerFrisker
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You'd make me laugh if I ever saw you in PvP.
Arianna's shoes?
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
-12 hour "easy mode"-glitch
-your blood disappearing when dying once-glitch
-duping (they did fix this, but people can still play 1.10 and dupe shit)
Well valid to you seems to mean whatever you personally agree with. Considering you both claim that time can be a complaint when you make it about loading and HD but not when others apply it to vials.
At the end of the day it is a pro/con debate. I find very little pros about the system over previous iterations and a lot of cons. The other systems had their cons as well, but better pros and less cons IMO.
super-famicom
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gioGAF
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Chalice Dungeons are BRUTAL. They really ramp up the difficulty. I pretty much stopped using most consumables and small items in the base game. I would explore, then figure out the boss, but most regular encounters I could handle.
Depth 4/5 Chalice Dungeons just throw that calm right out the window. I feel like I have to scrape by, I use a variety of consumables for different situations, bosses don't mess around, pretty exhilarating stuff. You really have to learn your weapon of choice inside out, can't just R1 shit to death or trade hits. And all that without even mentioning Defiled dungeons.
I guess having level capped myself is making things a little more difficult (Level 60, Level 100), but since I'm not leveling up, I always have blood echoes to repurchase consumables.
Depth 4/5 Chalice Dungeons just throw that calm right out the window. I feel like I have to scrape by, I use a variety of consumables for different situations, bosses don't mess around, pretty exhilarating stuff. You really have to learn your weapon of choice inside out, can't just R1 shit to death or trade hits. And all that without even mentioning Defiled dungeons.
I guess having level capped myself is making things a little more difficult (Level 60, Level 100), but since I'm not leveling up, I always have blood echoes to repurchase consumables.
Vials work for this game, Estus works for DS. There's no health/hollowing penalty on death. Instead in this game you just have to worry about your consumables each attempt. Vials encourage the use of the rally system and cautious play. They add a small sense of inventory management in a game otherwise lacking this. They are some of the only loot that drops in a game lacking this. So I don't think you can take out vials/consumable health and replace it with Estus, keeping everything else the same, and wind up with a better game.
WhiskerFrisker
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I agree with this.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Let's drop the blood vial-disussion then. I think you're a good poster.
Regarding DkS2: I love that game so insanely much, but losing a tiny portion of your health was such an insignificant way of punishing the player who would die over and over again. Seriously, human effigies were given to you like they were nothing. I don't recall anyone ever having issues or feeling "bad" about using them once you've finally gotten your health below ~85%.
I already did. I tried to explain why I disagreed with your assertions and your response was to just restate your assertion.
I am not going to spend another several posts just going back and forth and derail this into a personal thing.
People are getting way to sensitive about something that is ultimately a subjective matter.
PoweredByHentai
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Is that your video?
Because if it is, it looked like you took quite a beating from her even if you ultimately triumphed.
I'll agree with the regain system, but I dont really understand the cautious thing.
Guess it was just me, but I was as cautious as in DS, even more in that game for having LESS estus than 20.
But as I said maybe it was just me, I can see people using vials without thinking, but as I said, you start with FAR less estus in Souls games than 20, making it hard to survive if you abuse of them (endgame is different but it's also way easier to get Vials at BB's endgame)
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