We've been talking about how excellent Ledger was for seven years. It's hard to remember the negative feelings that lasted only a few months from so long ago. But it was there. Hasn't anyone linked to the Ledger reveal thread?
First Official Picture Of Jared Leto's DAMAGED Joker!
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We've been talking about how excellent Ledger was for seven years. It's hard to remember the negative feelings that lasted only a few months from so long ago. But it was there. Hasn't anyone linked to the Ledger reveal thread?
ReturnOfTheRAT
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They did it for the Internet memes. Success.
Isn't the Joker very theatrical and self aware?
LyleLanley
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I tried looking for the first reveal of Ledgers face but I can't find the thread. We've all seen the posts responding to Ledgers casting announcement already.
Fancy Clown
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It's like Joker existed in comic-book form already and this Joker was like "whoa this guy's crazy, I'm gonna tattoo a bunch of referential imagery to him on myself" rather than tattoos the character would actually get.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Joker has a Robin tattoo on his bicep.
Goddamn.
Goddamn.
I'm going with this ain't the real Joker and that Leto plays a poser Joker and real-ass Joker. Only way it makes sense to me.
Real-ass Joker would have Batman tattoos. Because real-ass Joker is IN LOVE with Batman.
Yes, and he expresses that with all his clown shit.
Real-ass Joker would have Batman tattoos. Because real-ass Joker is IN LOVE with Batman.
Yes, and he expresses that with all his clown shit.
The thing is, Batman goes up against Superman in the upcoming film so I can't see this guy ever being a problem for Batman, but then again Suicide Squad takes place before Batman V Superman so who knows, maybe after all that shit he steps his game up and gets serious. Hard to say really how everything fits together, which makes all these movies seem weird. Batman V Superman is the bread and butter right? So you'd have to assume things like Suicide Squad are being made with that in mind, right? Like, Snyder gave the thumbs up? Or is that irrelevant? I have no idea...
TheWorthyEdge
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What. The fuck. Terrible.
God damn. I do NOT know how I feel. Looks terrible but I feel like it could be done well
God damn. I do NOT know how I feel. Looks terrible but I feel like it could be done well
timetokill
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I have no problem with the concept, but the execution (especially the face tattoos) leaves a bit to be desired.
xKilltheMx
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Tattoos look fucking ridiculous
Idea could work but... Jesus it looks like shit.
Idea could work but... Jesus it looks like shit.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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I really wanna see the dynamic between these two
YO WHAT IF THIS IS TIM DRAKE AS THE JOKER.
Father_Brain
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Well, I can't find the thread either, but you can see the early reaction to the official pics here:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=155364
And some of the later pics:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=213437&highlight=joker
Not seeing what you're talking about, honestly.
Pop-O-Matic
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Would this mean Batfleck is actually Terry McGinnis?
Plasticine
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I wonder if he has a Batman tramp stamp?
N7Commander95
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I must, I wasn't referring to GAF as is didn't even know about it back then ha and I don't want to trudge back on my old forums do 2008.
Buuut anyway, I remember the thing that made it more positive was after the marketing campaign began and the trailer with his laugh came out
N7Commander95
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This is amazing, and also the internet on repeat
Discotheque
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That would be the fucking best. Halfway through Batman vs Superman we find out it was all just a simulation and the movie become Batman Beyond. Just some cool as Blade Runner + The Dark Knight shit.
Suddenly this starts playing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8Y5SLcBJks
Chezzymann
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I think we've had enough 'fresh takes' on the joker. What about a back to the basics, traditional joker?
TheGreatDirector
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Damn I didn't even notice the Robin tattoo...
I really wonder how they're gonna take this character in the film. He seems completely insane and self obsessed.
I really wonder how they're gonna take this character in the film. He seems completely insane and self obsessed.
BadAss2961
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Heath's death and legendary performance made many forget just how critical people were of not only his casting, but the way he looked as Joker. The scars and brooding tone of that first image sparked a lot of doubt and hate. I remember all of it.
I think this Joker's gonna be pretty versatile. The shirtless official pic reminds me of this.
He ends up killing that woman in that same room like it was nothing.
Yeah that's kind of how I feel, too. The mainstream hasn't seen a traditional Joker since the animated series in the 90's. I think it's time to go back to the classics a little bit.
This is Gaf. Where common sense goes out the window and knee jerk reactions is all the rage.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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What version would that be?
I like that the Joker is constantly changing and being redefined.
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thepotatoman
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The most troubling thing of all is that people seem to keep going back to All Star Batman and Robin for examples of this Joker in comic form.
That's more like people having fun with the poses, which isn't even commentary on whether they like it or they don't like it, it's just the internet sharing an experience of the reveals together.
The only stuff I've seen that has even been in the same vein are people photoshopping Leto into Home Alone.
Actually, I know comic fans quite a bit. Generally, they are more accepting of changes that occur in alternate universes or what have you. Stuff like Superman: Red Son, Marvel Zombies, and Ultimate Marvel (when it started at least) were very popular and continue to be so despite being huge deviations from the norm. Reboots might raise fans' ire, but alternate tellings that do nothing to affect the precious CONTINUITY are usually okay.
You don't have to explain to me how opinions work. My comment came about because conversation folks in this thread and beyond were having saying how this Joker didn't fit their idea of the character. I was commenting on the fact that it seems the comics are allowed to explore new concepts or change up from established status quos from time to time but the films are expected to toe the line and do exactly what the comics did instead of, you know, just being considered their own thing.
I like the look, looks like he took a couple bat fists to the mouth. I'm assuming most of those tattoos will be covered up for a good portion of his screen time unless Joker likes walking around without a shirt.
This is a very animated facial expression with all his tats very visible. I can see him looking even better with a suit on and a different look.
The "damaged" tattoo is a bit much as it comes off as trying too hard.
This is a very animated facial expression with all his tats very visible. I can see him looking even better with a suit on and a different look.
The "damaged" tattoo is a bit much as it comes off as trying too hard.
Not what I expected. I'm still on board with Leto though.
Edit: I agree with some of the people saying that the 'damage' in the forehead is trying too hard, but isn't that the whole point of the Joker? He definitely tries to play up his insane persona schlock as much as possible. He's so delusional that I could see him doing something like that just to irk people. That Joker in the Batman cartoons definitely did stuff like that from time to time.
Edit: I agree with some of the people saying that the 'damage' in the forehead is trying too hard, but isn't that the whole point of the Joker? He definitely tries to play up his insane persona schlock as much as possible. He's so delusional that I could see him doing something like that just to irk people. That Joker in the Batman cartoons definitely did stuff like that from time to time.
m_shortpants
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Eh, I'll wait to pass judgment. I thought Ledger looked bad as well initially.
Besides, they kind of have to go completely different for the design.
Besides, they kind of have to go completely different for the design.
Yeah that pretty much confirms the whole Robin thing. Wow. It's gonna be really interesting.
CreeperBlocks
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BadAss2961
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Nothing wrong with that. Since the series never finished, Joker was barely in it. But everything he did in that small sampling was great.
Nope, it looks way better with the tats. Took me all of a couple minutes to start feeling this look. I can imagine where they're going with this.
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