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[Ulysses 31]

These reshoots are just KILLING these films profitability. Why do they constantly do this? The script is shit? The directors never properly storyboarded the film? They were chasing the woke and then tried to pivot? Execs wait too long to weigh in?

Partially because at Disney/Marvel they start filming without a (finished) script and fix/change things later on.

Rebecca Romijn Isn’t “Sure” She’s Done Filming for ‘Avengers: Doomsday’ Because “They Haven’t Finishing Writing” the Script

Romijn is set to reprise her role as Mystique, a character she originated in 2000’s ‘X-Men.’

www.hollywoodreporter.com

 

[AJUMP23]

Partially because at Disney/Marvel they start filming without a (finished) script and fix/change things later on.

Rebecca Romijn Isn’t “Sure” She’s Done Filming for ‘Avengers: Doomsday’ Because “They Haven’t Finishing Writing” the Script

Romijn is set to reprise her role as Mystique, a character she originated in 2000’s ‘X-Men.’

www.hollywoodreporter.com

This feels like Disney/Star Wars culture. The one thing they should learn from SW is finish the story first.

 

[Fake]

These reshoots are just KILLING these films profitability. Why do they constantly do this? The script is shit? The directors never properly storyboarded the film? They were chasing the woke and then tried to pivot? Execs wait too long to weigh in?

Most of the writers are new in the job and to be honest reshoots save a load of money.

I remember new Capitan America doing a so big reshoot because the screen test couldn't stop laughting at Ford transforming into Hulk.
In fact, I would paid a load of money to see all those movies without the reshoot because as sites like Holywood just saying is bad, I got curious how bad it really is.

 

[Doom85]

Partially because at Disney/Marvel they start filming without a (finished) script and fix/change things later on.

Rebecca Romijn Isn’t “Sure” She’s Done Filming for ‘Avengers: Doomsday’ Because “They Haven’t Finishing Writing” the Script

Romijn is set to reprise her role as Mystique, a character she originated in 2000’s ‘X-Men.’

www.hollywoodreporter.com

Oh, so like every MCU movie since 2008?

The movie got a LOAD of reshoots, so for people to be dumb at the point of saying 'bruh I watched the movie, there is no woke' when even the actors confirm otherwise.
They do tried to paint the mommy as the leader of the F4 instead of Pedro Pascal, with is hilarious. Screen test all over the place.

They did a heavy change of the entire movie before release and still the movie flop.

Now they can't even sell avengers at this point.

LOADS of reshoots? This is all blatantly pure, flimsy conjecture with zero evidence. The only confirmation on what was shot was the flashback sequence of Shalla-Bal before she becomes the Surfer, which checks out as that would require not much time to write, film, and do the effects for.

They didn't rewrite, reshot, and do the effects for a TON of scenes two months before release. The fact that anyone could believe that shows how little some people know about filmmaking.

Almost all major films get reshoots. It's really becoming hilarious how much certain people are acting like this is some sort of massive deal. Why, it's almost like some people on YouTube and such get paid to spread panic, outrage, unfounded rumors, etc.

 

[NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt]

Oh, so like every MCU movie since 2008?

LOADS of reshoots? This is all blatantly pure, flimsy conjecture with zero evidence. The only confirmation on what was shot was the flashback sequence of Shalla-Bal before she becomes the Surfer, which checks out as that would require not much time to write, film, and do the effects for.

They didn't rewrite, reshot, and do the effects for a TON of scenes two months before release. The fact that anyone could believe that shows how little some people know about filmmaking.

Almost all major films get reshoots. It's really becoming hilarious how much certain people are acting like this is some sort of massive deal. Why, it's almost like some people on YouTube and such get paid to spread panic, outrage, unfounded rumors, etc.

https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelstudios/s/7oUX8MFmQp

Looks like F4 is not bombing

 

[Saber]

These reshoots are just KILLING these films profitability. Why do they constantly do this? The script is shit? The directors never properly storyboarded the film? They were chasing the woke and then tried to pivot? Execs wait too long to weigh in?

Seems like every Marvel project gets these, and they seem a lot more extensive than "we needed a few establishing pick-up shots" or "we had to wait for the lead actor to grow a beard". They seem to be large restructuring of plots, replacing entire characters, or broad tonal changes.

Maybe these massive effects heavy films are just too much. Filming actors on an all green set with a swirl of ping-pong balls on sticks representing half the cast has got to be a big challenge in hitting the correct emotions and dialogue. But go to a real set, with all the characters physically there, and the acting magic can happen.

At this point I can only assume they make/write those films without any form of supervision. So theres no "ears being pushed" until the film is seeing by investors or testers. Its then when the facepalm happens and demands to reshots begins. Elio supposedelly suffer from the same thing, I can't imagine the reception that film would have if they didn't change things there.
I can think Superman being the same thing, an entire film about everyone making/cracking jokes and silly comments (like Spider-man). Until internal testing saw demand almost entire shitick to be heavy toned.

 

[VulcanRaven]

I have seen many say that reported 80% drop is a bit misleading. That drop was Friday to Friday. When you compare the entire weekends it was 66%.

 

[jason10mm]

At this point I can only assume they make/write those films without any form of supervision. So theres no "ears being pushed" until the film is seeing by investors or testers. Its then when the facepalm happens and demands to reshots begins. Elio supposedelly suffer from the same thing, I can't imagine the reception that film would have if they didn't change things there.
I can think Superman being the same thing, an entire film about everyone making/cracking jokes and silly comments (like Spider-man). Until internal testing saw demand almost entire shitick to be heavy toned.

Seems to me that they should just film a couple different versions of scenes, some with more comedy, some with less, so they have the flexibility to adjust the final product in editing without having to reshoot. Maybe all the effects makes it harder to adjust on the fly? I'm sure they know the "controversial" stuff ahead of time so seems like they should cover their bases up front with shots that cut out gay kisses or whatever.

Comic book plots can be pretty convoluted with lots of mumbo-jumbo to explain why a glowy thingy is good/bad and why this character is secretly that character or why this person reacts to that person in ways that aren't clear just from the script dialogue. I'm not sure these tentpole flicks devotes the proper time to rehearsals, and of course they are usually on a tight time table to meet a release schedule put out YEARS in advance, gotta hammer "talkie" scenes into a action sequence framework that was pre-determined and already well into production before principle photography begins.

 

[Dr. Samuel Hayden]

This is bombing and it's hilarious.

And fully deserved.

 

[DKehoe]

 

[Madflavor]

This is bombing and it's hilarious.

And fully deserved.

"What is going on at Marvel?"

They diluted the brand with all those shows that were mediocre, and made general audiences feel like they had to do homework before watching the next MCU film. On top of that the dumptruck of "content" only served to accelerate us towards Superhero Fatigue. It's here now. MCU films are very frontloaded, and they're going to have to adjust accordingly.

 

[VulcanRaven]

"What is going on at Marvel?"

They diluted the brand with all those shows that were mediocre, and made general audiences feel like they had to do homework before watching the next MCU film. On top of that the dumptruck of "content" only served to accelerate us towards Superhero Fatigue. It's here now. MCU films are very frontloaded, and they're going to have to adjust accordingly.

This is the reason why I haven't watched all the movies after Endgame. I hadn't seen Ms. Marvel so it didn't make any sense to see The Marvels. I saw Captain America 4 and it felt like I missed a lot.