The Fantastic Four: First Steps | Official Trailer
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Saw it in IMAX. Really enjoyed it, which I can't say for any other post-Endgame MCU films other than GOTG3. It has an uncommon earnestness to it, cosmic adventure scale, and is largely faithful to the comics. Could nitpick turning RR into an introvert but it generally works well, even lady Silver Surfer was a sensible fit for the story.
Reizo Ryuu
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He doesn't have troops, or armies or even allies, just a herald.
Doom85
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For the tone of the Fantastic Four comics which is meant to be occasionally serious but ultimately idealistic and fun, and the movie itself:
It was better that they won. Especially as that would make the F4 look awful in viewers' eyes if they really did fail to save Earth after vowing to save it without giving up Franklin.
Like, remember how mad some viewers got at Star-Lord for messing up the moment to defeat Thanos in Infinity War? (even though it was consistent with his character, he had the same reaction to hearing about a loved one's death when Ego revealed what happened to Peter's mom, it's just in Guardians 2 Peter lashing out was awesome, whereas in Infinity War Peter lashing out was the last thing the heroes needed)
Yeah, the F4 would have been hated by viewers far more, and that's not a good strat going into Avengers: Doomsday where they'll be the most important of the heroes in the movie, since it's Dr. Doom as the villain.
Like, remember how mad some viewers got at Star-Lord for messing up the moment to defeat Thanos in Infinity War? (even though it was consistent with his character, he had the same reaction to hearing about a loved one's death when Ego revealed what happened to Peter's mom, it's just in Guardians 2 Peter lashing out was awesome, whereas in Infinity War Peter lashing out was the last thing the heroes needed)
Yeah, the F4 would have been hated by viewers far more, and that's not a good strat going into Avengers: Doomsday where they'll be the most important of the heroes in the movie, since it's Dr. Doom as the villain.
GateofD
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Overall, it was a good tone, and more genuine that recent Marvel stuff, but it was still lacking imo. But it did have neat stuff. They should have had a Spider-man.
+casting choices was good
+everyone played a part or had a small moment, and what little I know, the characters fit what I know of them
+Silver Surfette Boobs, I think its fine.
+the futuristic '60' vibe was neat
+I liked that Johnny was willing to sac. himself, from what I know, its very in character. Mr.Fantastic just almost being ripped in half looked great
Just really wanted more use of their powers. Johnny and Sue MVP
-needed at least one good action piece. I think its a disservice they started off with such a big threat. I'm more interested in Mole Man or the other named villains that would be on more in line with what the F4's power level actually is.
-There's one clobbering time (which the theatre didn't react to at all), but no flame on!
-so much talking, i don't mind talking, but damn I think it was a solid 40-50minutes on this 2 hour movie just them sitting and talking about their plan in the middle here.
-lol, the Herald dooms x planets, but oh no, its just a baby! pushes her to betray Galatus? And some Johnny playing some retweets of people from other doomed planets. (I wonder if the planet codes are linked to actual planets in the Marvel comics) You know how many babies you genocide'd on the other planets?
-the countdown to teleport earth is 20secs....then they go backup plan B is to teleport Unicron by luring him into the circle....and its a countdown of like 40secs?! the thing is like the size of his body, how did they think they were gonna keep him there. Invisible Woman's plan seemed a spur of the moment. I do like that everyone has limits or seem like they're using up Stamina Pts or SP and stuff when they're fighting. Other than the Thing. Who just smashes stuff which is fine.
Can they freaking kill some damn civilians in these city-wide/world catastophes for once! You did it one-time, do it again.
6/10
+casting choices was good
+everyone played a part or had a small moment, and what little I know, the characters fit what I know of them
+Silver Surfette Boobs, I think its fine.
+the futuristic '60' vibe was neat
+I liked that Johnny was willing to sac. himself, from what I know, its very in character. Mr.Fantastic just almost being ripped in half looked great
Just really wanted more use of their powers. Johnny and Sue MVP
-needed at least one good action piece. I think its a disservice they started off with such a big threat. I'm more interested in Mole Man or the other named villains that would be on more in line with what the F4's power level actually is.
-There's one clobbering time (which the theatre didn't react to at all), but no flame on!
-so much talking, i don't mind talking, but damn I think it was a solid 40-50minutes on this 2 hour movie just them sitting and talking about their plan in the middle here.
-lol, the Herald dooms x planets, but oh no, its just a baby! pushes her to betray Galatus? And some Johnny playing some retweets of people from other doomed planets. (I wonder if the planet codes are linked to actual planets in the Marvel comics) You know how many babies you genocide'd on the other planets?
-the countdown to teleport earth is 20secs....then they go backup plan B is to teleport Unicron by luring him into the circle....and its a countdown of like 40secs?! the thing is like the size of his body, how did they think they were gonna keep him there. Invisible Woman's plan seemed a spur of the moment. I do like that everyone has limits or seem like they're using up Stamina Pts or SP and stuff when they're fighting. Other than the Thing. Who just smashes stuff which is fine.
Can they freaking kill some damn civilians in these city-wide/world catastophes for once! You did it one-time, do it again.
6/10
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Reizo Ryuu
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Never happening again, there was so much criticism around MoS for this around that time, that they chickened out and have the official death count for the battle for new york at a completely insane 74, and this was after netflix daredevil reported "hundreds dead" (which is still insanely low, should be thousands).
Miyazaki’s Slave
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Caught a 3d viewing yesterday.
It was certainly better than most of the recent marvel TV shows (I liked Thunderbolts*) but I didn't think this movie was better than Superman.
I will echo other people here the editing was very jarring in a few places. I didn't think the characters had any personality at all (outside of the School Teacher lady and Sue Storm) everyone else was just gormless. Johnny Storm is my favorite of the 4 and I don't think this guy did the role justice at all...or maybe he did and it was all cut and reshot.
I like the 60's aesthetic if the film, it felt kinda wholesome overall and I would take kids to this with no question (after we see Superman).
It was certainly better than most of the recent marvel TV shows (I liked Thunderbolts*) but I didn't think this movie was better than Superman.
I will echo other people here the editing was very jarring in a few places. I didn't think the characters had any personality at all (outside of the School Teacher lady and Sue Storm) everyone else was just gormless. Johnny Storm is my favorite of the 4 and I don't think this guy did the role justice at all...or maybe he did and it was all cut and reshot.
I like the 60's aesthetic if the film, it felt kinda wholesome overall and I would take kids to this with no question (after we see Superman).
bitbydeath
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Just watched it, it was great.
Pedro not phoning it in and actually acting was an unexpected event.
Also that whole Johnny not being a womaniser and Sue doing gender studies and the movie being mostly about Sue with everyone else taking a backseat was a lie.
Pedro not phoning it in and actually acting was an unexpected event.
Also that whole Johnny not being a womaniser and Sue doing gender studies and the movie being mostly about Sue with everyone else taking a backseat was a lie.
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