MAYWEATHER VS. PACQUIAO Official May 2nd

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flkraven said:
Jesus christ. I waited for them to sign this god damn contract so I could get some news about how I can pay to stream this through one of my various devices. I just want to fucking give $100 to someone so I can stream this shit in HD yet no one will take my money. I don't have cable, and can't get it in time for this event.
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Go to a bar.

It won't kill you.
 
Jest Chillin said:
The price for a bar to carry this fight is extremely high. Many bars that normally would carry fights won't touch this with a ten foot pole. The ones that do will likely be national chains and their cover charges will be 4 times the normal or more.
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This.

I want to see this fight live, but I don't have cable also....and most of my local joints would have to charge $20 cover to host the fight, and they're not those kinds of places so I'm SOL.
 
Syphon Filter said:
Wouldnt a casual be more of a manny fan actually?
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Not at all, a casual fan could be a fan of either fighter. It's a misconception that this fight is the crowd pleaser vs. the sweet science that only a boxing enthusiast could appreciate.

It's true that Manny is more of a crowd pleaser, but only because he's aggressive. It's still a science. This fight is fascinating because it's like the sweet offensive science vs. sweet defensive science, and seeing what gives. Manny isn't some plodding come-forward fighter like Gatti.

He's an assassin, and gives you all sorts of looks, angles and setups with feints, it's going to give Mayweather fits, and he's handled it before, but never with a fighter that will keep it up throughout the whole fight. He's gonna have to go for the KO, don't see any way he outpoints Manny, and I think he knows that, hence his different game plan compared to most of his fights.

I'm down for a friendly bet, I've been trying to keep this fight bet-free, partly because I want to fully enjoy the fight as a pure fan with no distractions, and partly because I don't trust the casinos here in Panama (or walking out of one with the amounts I like to bet). You thinking money, avatar, or what?
 
MVP said:
Not at all, a casual fan could be a fan of either fighter. It's a misconception that this fight is the crowd pleaser vs. the sweet science that only a boxing enthusiast could appreciate.

It's true that Manny is more of a crowd pleaser, but only because he's aggressive. It's still a science. This fight is fascinating because it's like the sweet offensive science vs. sweet defensive science, and seeing what gives. Manny isn't some plodding come-forward fighter like Gatti.

He's an assassin, and gives you all sorts of looks, angles and setups with feints, it's going to give Mayweather fits, and he's handled it before, but never with a fighter that will keep it up throughout the whole fight. He's gonna have to go for the KO, don't see any way he outpoints Manny, and I think he knows that, hence his different game plan compared to most of his fights.

I'm down for a friendly bet, I've been trying to keep this fight bet-free, partly because I want to fully enjoy the fight as a pure fan with no distractions, and partly because I don't trust the casinos here in Panama (or walking out of one with the amounts I like to bet). You thinking money, avatar, or what?
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Just a regular bet, nothing really i guess. We will see who wins
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I refuse to believe somebody all about the "Money" like mayweather wouldnt know there is a gold mine available if there were payable streams.
 
MVP said:
Not at all, a casual fan could be a fan of either fighter. It's a misconception that this fight is the crowd pleaser vs. the sweet science that only a boxing enthusiast could appreciate.

It's true that Manny is more of a crowd pleaser, but only because he's aggressive. It's still a science. This fight is fascinating because it's like the sweet offensive science vs. sweet defensive science, and seeing what gives. Manny isn't some plodding come-forward fighter like Gatti.

He's an assassin, and gives you all sorts of looks, angles and setups with feints, it's going to give Mayweather fits, and he's handled it before, but never with a fighter that will keep it up throughout the whole fight. He's gonna have to go for the KO, don't see any way he outpoints Manny, and I think he knows that, hence his different game plan compared to most of his fights.

I'm down for a friendly bet, I've been trying to keep this fight bet-free, partly because I want to fully enjoy the fight as a pure fan with no distractions, and partly because I don't trust the casinos here in Panama (or walking out of one with the amounts I like to bet). You thinking money, avatar, or what?
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Well, betting data suggests that casual fans do support Manny more -
You have more people are backing Pacquiao but more money is backing Mayweather, also, you've seen the line moving early toward Manny and late toward PBF.

p.s.
As I said before, I'm all in betting wise on Mayweather UD.
 
Chichikov said:
Well, betting data suggests that casual fans do support Manny more -
You have more people are backing Pacquiao but more money is backing Mayweather, also, you've seen the line moving early toward Manny and late toward PBF.

p.s.
As I said before, I'm all in betting wise on Mayweather UD.
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That type of action doesn't really say much, casual betters aren't the same as casual fans. Casual betters usually bet long shots, underdogs, parlays, etc. plus because it's such a big event you probably have people that never bet much at all but will bet this one and only time because it's such a huge event, and they pick the more likable guy, not to mention people who may be fans of one fighter but bet on the other because the odds are more favorable with everything considered.
 
Makunouchi Ippo has this fight under his belt.

Seriously speaking, I would've root for Pacquiao years ago. Not so much now, though. This fight is so late..
 
I'm in italy on honeymoon. Anyone know how I can stream this fight. Think it's gonna be like 4 am for me. Kinda sucks but can't miss this one.
 
MVP said:
First, Pacquiao as an overall fighter is much more impressive than Mayweather is, and Mayweather wasn't off his game, people don't understand he has problems with certain styles, as does every boxer, hence the term styles make fights. So many dynamics in a fight, it's why Marquez could go blood and guts with Pacquiao for 4 fights before finally landing a Hail Mary, Pacquiao could dominate Bradley twice, and Bradley could dominate Marquez.

I can't wait until the casual boxing fan sees what happens Saturday night and wonders "How the fuck does Mayweather lose, it doesn't make sense!?" because he beat Marquez so handily and was supposed to do the same to Pacquiao. It's like his Judah fight, the Mosley fight, etc. never happened.

It's also a bit funny how the people rooting for Mayweather think the excuses are gonna come from the Pacquiao side. Everyone is gonna attend Boxing 101 on Saturday night, undefeated records mean shit when you fight someone whose style is tailor made to exploit your weaknesses. Ask George Foreman.
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That avatar suggests you're not too good at bold predictions. :P

And yes, styles make fights. Manny's biggest problem has been a smart counter puncher in Marquez. Floyd is the best trap-setter and counter puncher of them all on top of being the best at mid-fight adjustments.
 
Have they announced what gloves they are using? I know PBF prefers a different glove than Manny likes. That will be interesting because PBF has hand issues. I wouldn't call them brittle hands but he does have problems with them.
I'm stuck paying 100 to watch the fight with no one chipping in, so I sure hope I get a good fight without too much running around the ring.
 
MVP said:
That type of action doesn't really say much, casual betters aren't the same as casual fans. Casual betters usually bet long shots, underdogs, parlays, etc. plus because it's such a big event you probably have people that never bet much at all but will bet this one and only time because it's such a huge event, and they pick the more likable guy, not to mention people who may be fans of one fighter but bet on the other because the odds are more favorable with everything considered.
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Fair point, though I do think there's at least some correlation between casual betters to casual fans (at least in such high profile events).
It also reinforced the anecdotal evidence I'm seeing in my real life.
 
hunchback said:
Have they announced what gloves they are using? I know PBF prefers a different glove than Manny likes. That will be interesting because PBF has hand issues. I wouldn't call them brittle hands but he does have problems with them.
I'm stuck paying 100 to watch the fight with no one chipping in, so I sure hope I get a good fight without too much running around the ring.
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I'd guess that Manny definitely has to use whatever Floyd wants to.
 
MVP said:
Money's getting Mosley'd all night long

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Prime vs. prime might have been a different story. But we'll never know.

Syphon Filter said:
Floyd called him out back in his prime,never happened though till later.
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Actually, Floyd had turned Shane down before that. Then Floyd and Arum were asking to fight Shane when he had already decided to move up in weight(and Arum knew they were building towards Shane's fight with Oscar who he also promoted).

Also, in 1999-2000, it's not ducking Mayweather to move up two weight classes and fight a prime De La Hoya.
 
Going in to work early on Saturday to help with the potential high call volume this fight will cause. They're bringing in pizza and other snacks as an incentive, plus the overtime of course.

I've never paid a lot of attention to the fights, so it's kinda crazy to see it going for $100. How long do the actual fights last, ideally?
 
SpeedySwaf said:
Going in to work early on Saturday to help with the potential high call volume this fight will cause. They're bringing in pizza and other snacks as an incentive, plus the overtime of course.

I've never paid a lot of attention to the fights, so it's kinda crazy to see it going for $100. How long do the actual fights last, ideally?
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That's a tricky question by the way you worded it.

The entire PPV will likely go from 10pm-1am (EST).

Individual championship fights consist of 12 3-minute rounds with a 1-minute break in between each round for a total of 47 minutes. Regarding "ideally", every fan will be rooting for a knockout, which can occur at any minute in the fight.
 
pixelation said:
I'm getting it for free down here in Tijuana, Mexico. Don't know if it's gonna be running live or a little bit behind, if so i'll just stay off the net until the fight is over.
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I'm 99% sure you wont be able to watch it for free (legally, at least).

Usually these fights that go on PPV in the US and on free on network TV in Mexico they either go with a one hour delay or, if its live like this fight, Televisa and TV Azteca go out of their way (because they have to, not because they want to) to block the fight from border cities to avoid giving border towns in the US side the fight for free and/or prevent Americans crossing the border just to watch it for free. So if I had to bet I'd say Tijuana ain't getting it free.

As for your question about it being live it seems it will be... but only the first round. In between rounds they'll go longer than 1 minute to stick us with more commercials and thus by the last round we'll be at least 15 minutes behind the actual feed.

I'd pay the PPV if I had the option here if only to not get commercial interruptions!
 
BadAss2961 said:
That avatar suggests you're not too good at bold predictions. :P

And yes, styles make fights. Manny's biggest problem has been a smart counter puncher in Marquez. Floyd is the best trap-setter and counter puncher of them all on top of being the best at mid-fight adjustments.
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Yeah I agree, that's what I was saying earlier, each fighter's weakness is the other one's strength, but "Manny's biggest problem" needed 4 fights to finally catch him with one punch. Let's not forget Marquez was 0-3 and losing the 4th.

Mayweather's biggest problem is fighters who fight like Pacquiao, and Pacquiao's the only one who won't tire out or fade, so the likelihood is if he sits back trying to counter-punch all night, Pacquiao takes round after round unless he gets caught with one punch, and Mayweather doesn't have that one punch in him. That's where my pick comes from, I don't think Mayweather has what he'll need to win this fight, against this fighter.
 
MVP said:
Yeah I agree, that's what I was saying earlier, each fighter's weakness is the other one's strength, but "Manny's biggest problem" needed 4 fights to finally catch him with one punch. Let's not forget Marquez was 0-3 and losing the 4th.

Mayweather's biggest problem is fighters who fight like Pacquiao, and Pacquiao's the only one who won't tire out or fade, so the likelihood is if he sits back trying to counter-punch all night, Pacquiao takes round after round unless he gets caught with one punch, and Mayweather doesn't have that one punch in him. That's where my pick comes from, I don't think Mayweather has what he'll need to win this fight, against this fighter.
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You putting up money for pac man win?
 
soundahfekz said:
You putting up money for pac man win?
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MVP said:
I'm down for a friendly bet, I've been trying to keep this fight bet-free, partly because I want to fully enjoy the fight as a pure fan with no distractions, and partly because I don't trust the casinos here in Panama (or walking out of one with the amounts I like to bet). You thinking money, avatar, or what?
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Hyped!

I've got my money on Pacman by TKO in the 11th.

I think people are going to be surprised by how this fight goes - a lot of people think that Manny will do well early, but Floyd will figure him out and gradually take over, but I've got a different feeling.

I think Floyd really believes he can repeat what Marquez did and KO manny, and will start aggresively. I think Floyd will be surprised by how he can't get the KO and I see him actually getting frustrated, because Manny will outwork him, and Floyd will start getting worried as he loses rounds, and he will make mistakes which will lead to Pacman getting more confident and increasing his workrate and start connecting a lot more.

a lot of what we've seen with Floyd so far points to this - more muscle and weight, much more strength conditioning - he wants the KO.

And I think it's the wrong strategy - it's not how PBF has remained 47-0 up till now.

Of course I may very well be utterly wrong, but I've got a feeling...
 
There is a bar in my town charging 10 dollars for the fight. Everywhere else is charging 40 plus a table fee.

How early should I get there.
 
Fuck it, I'm skipping the fight. I'll probably just follow along on GAF. Not paying $100 to watch, and every bar within 20 miles of me seems to be charging anywhere between $20-$50 for cover, and an additional $20 for a table or bar seat reservation.
 
Megalosaro said:
There is a bar in my town charging 10 dollars for the fight. Everywhere else is charging 40 plus a table fee.

How early should I get there.
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The PPV starts at 10 eastern time with the main event set to start around midnight.

I believe the Lomachenko fight is the first on the undercard, so I'm personally getting to my bar at ~9:45-10:00. Then again, I have a reserved table, so you might want to get there earlier if you're expecting it to be crowded.

Violence Jack said:
Fuck it, I'm skipping the fight. I'll probably just follow along on GAF. Not paying $100 to watch, and every bar within 20 miles of me seems to be charging anywhere between $20-$50 for cover, and an additional $20 for a table or bar seat reservation.
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I'm happily paying $40 per person for cover and table reservation at the bar I'm going to. I normally watch boxing via DVR on Sunday morning, but this is one fight I need to see live.
 
I'm gonna watch this for free thanks to the intense competition between two internet companies in my condominium. Even us users from the rival can watch the fight but the tickets were distributed in front of the competitors' agents LOL. They even put up tons of flyers / streamers etc just to entice viewers. The catch is that you should be up to date with the condominium dues so you can watch the fight.

Philippines btw.
 
I keep looking at the card and expecting it to be worth 100 dollars and I don't see the justification.

At least this is being split between 20 people near me.
 
Can someone point me to the best pre-fight pieces? There's been so much different coverage - cashing in on the hype, of course. I thought HBO and Showtime were both doing their own thing, but I honestly don't want to watch both, and otherwise haven't had the time to keep up with any of this stuff.
 
CopperPuppy said:
Can someone point me to the best pre-fight pieces? There's been so much different coverage - cashing in on the hype, of course. I thought HBO and Showtime were both doing their own thing, but I honestly don't want to watch both, and otherwise haven't had the time to keep up with any of this stuff.
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HBO's At Last:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hF76dlQt23c

and HBO's The Legends Speak:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5gEjs5jfHw

are the best ones I've seen.
 
Jest Chillin said:
The price for a bar to carry this fight is extremely high. Many bars that normally would carry fights won't touch this with a ten foot pole. The ones that do will likely be national chains and their cover charges will be 4 times the normal or more.
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There's a place here with a $50 cover. Get the fuck outta here. I might as well buy the fight at home.
 
MVP said:
HBO's At Last:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hF76dlQt23c

and HBO's The Legends Speak:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5gEjs5jfHw

are the best ones I've seen.
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IMO HBO's At Last is best of the bunch. So good.

Jest Chillin said:
The price for a bar to carry this fight is extremely high. Many bars that normally would carry fights won't touch this with a ten foot pole. The ones that do will likely be national chains and their cover charges will be 4 times the normal or more.
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jmood88 said:
There's a place here with a $50 cover. Get the fuck outta here. I might as well buy the fight at home.
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Here's a good article on the pricing structure for bars. It is common for them to have to pay $5,000 to show it.
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/apr/28/floyd-mayweather-manny-pacquiao-fight-pay-per-view-cops
 
Tom_Cody said:
IMO HBO's At Last is best of the bunch. So good.

Here's a good article on the pricing structure for bars. It is common for them to have to pay $5,000 to show it.
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/apr/28/floyd-mayweather-manny-pacquiao-fight-pay-per-view-cops
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I friend who manages a Buffalo Wild Wings said it costs them 1500 for UFC PPV's
They can't really get away with charging a cover and it doesn't make money because sure, the place is packed but after 45 minutes into the PPV, people aren't ordering any more food and way less drinks
 
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