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[gaiages]

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If you guys can set it up, a group meeting might be a good idea. It might be more comfortable for the both of you. But, it's really up to how you feel about being in groups... if you don't like group hangouts, then go ahead and ask her for just catching up for the two of you.

My ex sure is something. She pushes me away and pushes me away, but somehow manages to magically choose the exact moment that I go out on a date to call me a dozen times. It's happened four times in a row now. I won't hear from her for a week or more and then suddenly it's date time and time for her to call apparently.

That sounds sorta creepy, lol, like she's stalking you or something. Have you considered blocking her number? I'm sure she has other methods of contacting you, but maybe that's for the best while you're trying to meet up with other ladies.

 

[ClosingADoor]

My ex sure is something. She pushes me away and pushes me away, but somehow manages to magically choose the exact moment that I go out on a date to call me a dozen times. It's happened four times in a row now. I won't hear from her for a week or more and then suddenly it's date time and time for her to call apparently.

Don't pick up and block the number if you can. Don't let it ruin your night out.

 

[Coda]

My ex sure is something. She pushes me away and pushes me away, but somehow manages to magically choose the exact moment that I go out on a date to call me a dozen times. It's happened four times in a row now. I won't hear from her for a week or more and then suddenly it's date time and time for her to call apparently.

That's somehow how things always happen.

I luckily had an amazing date last night. Pretty excited to keep it going and maybe start dating this one, she was certainly special.

 

[Ludovico]

Welp, I think I may be switching from lurker to active participant, if you guys will have me.

Last night I got stood up for the first time. I was at a book store waiting to meet someone I'd met off Tinder and had chatting with for several days. We missed each other at a bar Friday night, but she seemed enthusiastic about making sure we met up later. Sunday night we texted and both agreed we were busy but that Tuesday night would be solid. My messages to her Tuesay, with the planned meeting being at 730:
720- Hey there, I'm here a few minutes early. Charcoal Polo, see ya in a bit!
748- Everything OK?

917-I REALLY hope that you're too caught up with work, and that there wasn't a tragic accident or anything.
A change of heart is fine, just don't want to be worried ya know?

The only things I were worried about prior to going out was that her Tinder profile was removed from my matches Tuesday during the day, and that neither of us texted to check and make sure we were still on the day of. Is that always necessary? Really, I figured from how we had talked before that she was set on coming out. So Gaf, anything I should have done to handle the situation? Still haven't heard from her, and thought better about calling to check up.

 

[GK86]

I always confirm the day of. Just to try and minimize any surprises or any confusion there might be. Then I send out a text when I'm heading to the place and one when I get to the place.

Of course, even confirming won't stop people from flaking on you.

From your post, I think you handled the situation fine.

 

[MonorailCat]

The only things I were worried about prior to going out was that her Tinder profile was removed from my matches Tuesday during the day, and that neither of us texted to check and make sure we were still on the day of. Is that always necessary? Really, I figured from how we had talked before that she was set on coming out. So Gaf, anything I should have done to handle the situation? Still haven't heard from her, and thought better about calling to check up.

If her Tinder Profile disappeared from your list she probably removed your match / blocked you. She is fading you. Really no need to call her.
In future always confirm the meeting a few hours before. If you get no answer, don't go. They won't be there.
Ignoring you is the go-to move for Tinder girls that lost interest. No matter how enthuastic they were online or even on the first date. Better get used to it.

 

[ampere]

The only things I were worried about prior to going out was that her Tinder profile was removed from my matches Tuesday during the day, and that neither of us texted to check and make sure we were still on the day of. Is that always necessary? Really, I figured from how we had talked before that she was set on coming out. So Gaf, anything I should have done to handle the situation? Still haven't heard from her, and thought better about calling to check up.

Listen to GK86 and Monorail. Check the day of to confirm and make sure you get a reply. If you don't hear back, assume they aren't interested anymore.

 

[Ludovico]

Thanks for the responses, guys. I figured I could play it cool and just roll with it and hope for the best. This is the first time in years I've actively tried putting myself out there, and right now it's mostly limited to Tinder. I guess the best way to learn is through experience, but it still feels a bit disappointing being shafted or realizing how competitive it is out there.

 

[gaiages]

Thanks for the responses, guys. I figured I could play it cool and just roll with it and hope for the best. This is the first time in years I've actively tried putting myself out there, and right now it's mostly limited to Tinder. I guess the best way to learn is through experience, but it still feels a bit disappointing being shafted or realizing how competitive it is out there.

Yeah, it can be a bit rough, at times. Keep your chin up and keep trying, though!

 

[False Witness]

Well... I let something very bad happen. My ex literally came bursting through my door and I let her have her way with me. Everything about it felt so right, but I know it was so, so wrong. She won't stay because she lets other people influence her decisions all too often.

It felt like I was home for the first time in a long time...

Damn it! Oh well, I'm not altering any of the plans I've made without her.

 

[NeOak]

Well... I let something very bad happen. My ex literally came bursting through my door and I let her have her way with me. Everything about it felt so right, but I know it was so, so wrong. She won't stay because she lets other people influence her decisions all too often.

It felt like I was home for the first time in a long time...

Damn it! Oh well, I'm not altering any of the plans I've made without her.

We all have our weak moments.

 

[Alpha Centauri]

Hey dating GAF, never posted here but if y'all would have me for a bit it would be great.

I'm not really looking for advice, but short of an ex who I dont feel like talking to about this, I dont have anyone else to talk to. However advice is always welcome.

This is all within the last two hours and excuse me for poor punctuation, I'm typing on my tablet.

Two months ago, a previous client of mine hit me up after not seeing me for 3 months. I can't even call her a client as I only worked with her once. Long story short she said she thought I was cute, and would love to go out with me. She was looking for a relationship, but nothing overdone. My current relationship at the time was on the way out so I accepted. We will call her... Nikki. I'm 24 and work for a telecom company, she is 25 and an ICU nurse

Nikki and I go on a date to a restaurant to make sure we each aren't crazy, definitely vibe and depart with a kiss. I told her I like to go slow, and we should get to know each other . We don't. 2nd date, we end up at her house and we blew past first second and third base. We didn't have sex because we both agreed it was too soon, but I spent the night and we bonded even more.

For the next month, we go on all kinds of dates and enjoy each other's company, spend the night often, to the point where a week ago she states, " I haven't felt like this with someone in a long time". There's a resturaunt that I jokingly spoke about on one of our first dates, that we will know we are boyfriend girlfriend when I take her there. She mentioned the restaurant a few days ago and I kinda played it off while I was planning on taking her there. Red herring though cause we never got to that point.

This is where it gets weird. Full disclosure, I'm black, she is white. I have never dated out of my race, she almost exclusively dates minorities for whatever reason, I never questioned it but I just assume preferences.

2 days ago she asks me a question over text. Why do black men cheat so much? I Responded the same reason why anyone else cheats. The same reason you cheated (she told me she cheated before). She doubles down and says she and her friend were talking about it last night . Only person to cheat on her was black. Only person to cheat on her friend, black. Its a trend.

I told her it was weird she would ask me this question as if I am to speak for all black cheaters. I told her I have never cheated (never have), and the concept is foreign to me. I would prefer to break up than cheat.

She triple downs and says she had a good black friend growing up who told her its normal and expected. I tell her its a cultural issue as a country, considering the high rate of divorce and its unfortunate that it happened to you but shit happens and it just so happened to be a black guy.

I then ask her "Is that how you see me? A black guy who will probably cheat on you?" she says "heck no, I trust you. Just a discussion". I say ok and go back to work. We exchange texts but certainly not like we did before. She works the overnight shift for the medical ICU so it can get busy, but we don't exchange a text or snapchat the entire night, a first.

We had plans last night but she cancels saying she's exhausted, she's gonna chill. I say ok, feel better.

Fast forward to a few hours ago where she texts me she wants us to be platonic friends but that's all we will ever be.

I'm calm, so I call her, she doesn't want to talk. She said she really likes me but doesn't think she could fall in love with me. She hasn't felt this way long but she feels sure about this. I say my piece without saying anything vile. She said she wants to go to sleep. Ok, goodbye. She texts me 20 minutes later saying she doesn't want to hurt me and she really likes me and enjoys my company.

I respond "And I enjoyed yours, I never knew how you actually saw me, but I get it now. No worries. We will both be fine."

So that's the story. I feel so much better typing it out. Despite this I'm still flabbergasted. Such a heel face turn, this girl had me feeling emotions that I haven't felt in 2 years. I want to call her now, to talk to her, but I know that it makes zero sense to do so... How can you go from 100 to 0 so quick. How can we enjoy each other so much to have this happen ... I never gave her any cause to think I would cheat, I don't know what I did wrong. Maybe I was too blunt?

Who knows. On to the next one, whoever that might be.

 

[SuperAndroid17]

Hey dating GAF, never posted here but if y'all would have me for a bit it would be great.

Let her collect her thoughts or what not. If she wants you she'll come back full blast. Don't press the issue with texts/call.

In short...

Move on.

 

[TheSadRanger]

I think your better off Alpha, the whole asking why "black guys cheat" thing is kind of dubious.

 

[n64coder]

I think your better off Alpha, the whole asking why "black guys cheat" thing is kind of dubious.

I agree. That's a strange thing to say. Hope you find someone who is better for you soon.

 

[ampere]

Gonna agree with the others, Alpha. A race generalization like that isn't fair and you're best off moving on.

 

[Kyne]

Yo what. Straight up racist.

 

[stn]

We didn't have sex because we both agreed it was too soon, but I spent the night and we bonded even more.

IMO, bonding like this is good after sexual intimacy. If you don't plan to have sex, don't spend the night over. This is strictly my opinion, others will probably disagree.

The reason why I say this is because staying at someone's place builds a certain physical tension. If you don't take advantage then the fire can burn out sometimes.

For the next month, we go on all kinds of dates and enjoy each other's company, spend the night often, to the point where a week ago she states, " I haven't felt like this with someone in a long time". There's a resturaunt that I jokingly spoke about on one of our first dates, that we will know we are boyfriend girlfriend when I take her there. She mentioned the restaurant a few days ago and I kinda played it off while I was planning on taking her there.

Did you have sex during this month?

she almost exclusively dates minorities for whatever reason, I never questioned it but I just assume preferences.

Dude, she REALLY likes black men. Based on these facts I think she wanted sex and not much else. This is why I was asking my question above. If you didn't have sex with her this whole time, she was basically waiting for it to happen and then ended it after it didn't.

If you did? Hm, then I assume she got her fill and wants to move on to the next one. Also, the question she asked you was quite... er, socially off-putting. She's weird, dude. You just don't ask people shit like that, its rude and racist. I'm going to go out on a limb and say you probably dodged a bullet.

 

[Alpha Centauri]

Did you have sex during this month?

No, but mostly from her urging. One time didn't have a condom so I cooled the breaks. Although she wanted to. Other time she said no while we were in bed doing everything short of it. That was the last time I saw her. Next day was the text about the cheating.

she was basically waiting for it to happen and then ended it after it didn't.

I can see where you're coming from but I'm not sure it's that simple. Hmm. Maybe you're right.

Also, the question she asked you was quite... er, socially off-putting. She's weird, dude. You just don't ask people shit like that, its rude and racist. I'm going to go out on a limb and say you probably dodged a bullet.

Yeah. She positioned herself from the beginning as a "I don't see race" type of flowerchild. It was such a shock when she asked me that... it was like a whole different person over night.

 

[stn]

There was a lot of push-pull going on with the sex. First the condom, then she doesn't want it, then she does want it, etc... I think she just wanted you to be bold and take her over, as it were. She didn't want to appear so eager to do it because then she would look "slutty".

That whole racial tirade was her response to, in her mind, being rejected by you. She may have assumed that you not aggressively pushing sex was due to lack of physical interest. Of course this is not true, but insecure people are often irrational about their insecurities. No point to dwell on this, though.

 

[Alpha Centauri]

. No point to dwell on this, though.

I'm trying not to. I feel so dejected versus what I normally would during a two month relationship. Haven't felt like this since me and my ex that I dated for 3 and a half years broke up.

I'm not overly emotional which is good, I'm taking it in stride. But id be lying if there isn't a longing to try and talk, cause I've never seen someone turn on a dime like this. I know this is futile, ill never get answers from her. Y'all are absolutely right though, I think I did dodge a bullet. Looking back she was yandere / bipolar in her actions on a few different occasions, but they had all been in person where I could overcome them easily with a bit of charm or a show of affection or what have you.

I'm at a loss and I have two off days to (try) and not think about it. Wish I had work to take my mind off it. I was going to take her jetskiing today, maybe ill go anyway by myself.

 

[davepoobond]

I agree she was basically cutting it off since you didnt have sex with her yet, but she sounds kind of weird anyway

 

[NeOak]

I'm still mind blown about the generalization of black guys as cheaters.

Most I know are faithful unlike some white guys I know >.>

 

[ant_]

I'm still mind blown about the generalization of black guys as cheaters.

Most I know are faithful unlike some white guys I know >.>

I think a more accurate response is that some people are honest and others are not. I don't think race plays a factor at all.

 

[davepoobond]

I think a more accurate response is that some people are honest and others are not. I don't think race plays a factor at all.

Confirmation bias is probably the most impactful part of the decision-making process in dating, so logic and reasoning kind of gets thrown out.

 

[Alpha Centauri]

I think his anecdote is simply a direct juxtaposition from what Nikki told me. He knows mostly white people who cheated, Nikki knows only black people. Without paying attention to the world around you, you get caught up in creating a reality that is real to you and only you.

In her mind if I take her question at face value, I was a probable continuation of her own insecurities. She told me before she had trust issues, never trusted her dad cause she thought he was always cheating although he never did. Lastly she believes she is always right. This isn't me stating this grumpily, she straight up told me this. She said if she talks on a subject she has either the experience or research to back it. As well, she believes she views things from multiple views so when she comes to a conclusion its 99% right.

On that particular conversation I showed her three different avenues of thought she never thought of, and ended with a call for empathy, something that she many times lacks (as demonstrated in our convo on Baltimore protests).

Jumping back to an explanation for the break up, what y'all said previously makes more sense . Her phrasing when I talked to her was that she couldn't see me seriously as a partner. Maybe it was because contrary to her words of wanting a relationship with a educated well thought out guy, she really only wanted the physical and didn't want to ever see me as serious. Still at a loss though, I know I will feel like this for a while.

Sincerely, thank y'all for talking with me about it. Every time I have an urge to contact her I check this thread and y'all give me an opportunity to put in text my musings and feelings. Its definitely appreciated.

 

[davepoobond]

One girl I was talking to a while ago made a generalization about my race as well saying we "always beat their women" or something along those lines. She was insane anyway, never even met her.

When they drop bombs like that its usually time to move on. No use trying to convince them otherwise IMO

 

[stn]

She was projecting her insecurities onto you, man. My guess is she believed you didn't want to bang her, which was how she was assessing her self-worth (since she only wanted to bang you). So her response was to indirectly label you a cheater, in order to provide an excuse for why she no longer wanted to see you. She was just pussy-footing around the issue and didn't have the guts to say it directly.

Has happened to me before. Met a girl, she tried to play games. I didn't budge, instead flirted with her sister, dated one of her friends, and flirted with the others. She called me a cheater. I was single the whole time I knew her, only casually dated. Lots of tension afterwards, totally not worth it.

Don't fall into the trap, dude. Ignore this girl and find someone who's more mature and not socially lacking.

 

[Alpha Centauri]

She was projecting her insecurities onto you, man. My guess is she believed you didn't want to bang her, which was how she was assessing her self-worth (since she only wanted to bang you). So her response was to indirectly label you a cheater, in order to provide an excuse for why she no longer wanted to see you. She was just pussy-footing around the issue and didn't have the guts to say it directly.

Don't fall into the trap, dude. Ignore this girl and find someone who's more mature and not socially lacking.

One girl I was talking to a while ago made a generalization about my race as well saying we "always beat their women" or something along those lines. She was insane anyway, never even met her.

When they drop bombs like that its usually time to move on. No use trying to convince them otherwise IMO

Good shit both of you. I'm going to do my best for sure. I know exactly what needs to be done, its just a matter of willpower. Ive screamed at my friends not to call, I've made posts in member threads saying move on, don't call etc.

Its just a test for me to practice what I preach. Shit hurts.

 

[Zonic]

2nd date tonight in about 3 hours. I'm noticing I'm not feeling as nervous compared to before. If anything, I kind of feel a bit more confident. Have a good feeling things will go well again.

 

[Pachimari]

Man, found out today that my girlfriend have copied my key to my apartment while I had been asleep. And without asking.

That's just mean in my book, but maybe I'm reading too much into it?

I just don't like others having access to my home at all times.

 

[Zonic]

That's something I feel like you need to ask/get permission about. I don't know, I kind of have to agree with you. I certainly wouldn't make a spare key behind someone's back.

& seems like I'm meeting 15 minutes earlier for our date (right at 9 now), but she has to have leave at about 10 to go pick her sister up. Ah well, I'm not gonna over think it & make myself worry over nothing.

 

[ant_]

Man, found out today that my girlfriend have copied my key to my apartment while I had been asleep. And without asking.

That's just mean in my book, but maybe I'm reading too much into it?

I just don't like others having access to my home at all times.

That's just a red flag, man. Regardless of intentions, if she did it behind your back I think that's a pretty strange thing to do. Talk to her about it?

 

[ClosingADoor]

Man, found out today that my girlfriend have copied my key to my apartment while I had been asleep. And without asking.

That's just mean in my book, but maybe I'm reading too much into it?

I just don't like others having access to my home at all times.

That's strange as hell. She should have asked, or just waited until you offered to exchange keys. Copying someone keys without permissions is just not something you do. Talk to her about it and let her know you are not ok with that.

 

[Pachimari]

Yeah and I did and she gets angry everytime I try to talk to her about anything. I don't know if anyone remembers, but she is the girl I met on OKCupid 3 years ago and were I live updated you all on my first date.

Apparently she have had a lot of red flags.

She is afraid that I am gonna kick her out someday and not let her in, because I have moved her outside my door earlier while I was drunk apparently, but I don't remember that.

Yet she told me the neighbor had been here to knock on my door, while I was out for 10 minutes but when I asked my neighbor the next morning it wasn't true.

She is just so sweet when she is in the mood for it and she is doing a lot of things for me, like paying for food, cooking food and going on trips with me. But we have had a lot of heated arguments over the years.

 

[ant_]

On a side note, I got a date with a girl from Tinder today. This will be the fourth girl I've met on here.

The past 3 I've either made out / had sex on the first or second date and tried to get serious with 2 of them. Both were crazy. One was a chronic liar, the other cheated.

Gonna take a different approach with today's date and just go, hang out, and not make physical escalation a real priority. I just don't have the motivation, strangely enough.

I've also learned that if you're a hot girl on tinder, there is an 75% chance you are crazy. This is my generalization for today.

 

[Pachimari]

As sweet as my baby is, I have to let her go tomorrow.

I really don't know how I will cope being single. I'll probably drink a lot and start smoking as I have reacted that way before.

It'll also be the first time were I completely live alone in my apartment.

I'm just scared.

 

[ant_]

As sweet as my baby is, I have to let her go tomorrow.

I really don't know how I will cope being single. I'll probably drink a lot and start smoking as I have reacted that way before.

It'll also be the first time were I completely live alone in my apartment.

I'm just scared.

Take some time, do some things for yourself. Each time I've re-entered single life I make a list of things I want to do.

Some examples:
Gym, road trips, scuba dive, hiking, photography.

Find some things you wanna do. Do some things with friends, do some things alone.

 

[Ludovico]

Gym, road trips, scuba dive, hiking, photography.

For online profile purposes, I want to seem like a really interesting person, but:
1. I'm not sure that I am
2. On the occasion I AM doing something cool, I have no photographic proof

Gaf, I'm going on a a few solo road trips this summer, how am I supposed to document this?!

 

[ant_]

For online profile purposes, I want to seem like a really interesting person, but:
1. I'm not sure that I am
2. On the occasion I AM doing something cool, I have no photographic proof

Gaf, I'm going on a a few solo road trips this summer, how am I supposed to document this?!

I did all of the above things alone. Bought a camera and a tripod. Just document the journey, take a few pictures of yourself at really cool spots. Go to bars and sit at the bar, talk to strangers.

Every road trip I've been on solo has given me great pictures, a great time, and great stories.

 

[Pachimari]

And here I suffer from social phobia / anxiety.

I guess I will just have to play a lot of games and watch a lot of TV shows. Maybe go to the cinema alone and make some small goals and fulfill some things I have always wanted. Like a dog. A close companion.

 

[ant_]

And here I suffer from social phobia / anxiety.

I guess I will just have to play a lot of games and watch a lot of TV shows. Maybe go to the cinema alone and make some small goals and fulfill some things I have always wanted. Like a dog. A close companion.

It might sound like the stuff comes easy to me but it doesn't. I force myself to do these things and in the end I'm always glad I did.

I'm generally a recluse and smoke/play games all week.

 

[Zonic]

2nd date finished. I would say that once again it went well. We were able to talk/eat for about an hour & it seems we might have a bit more in common (she actually might be working for an game store in another town). Bit bummed it didn't end with a kiss of sorts, but it did end with another hug, so that's good. Plus I kind of feel relieved that she's fine with stuff like video games & anime, two things that didn't make me popular with girls back in high school.

I wanna figure out something for a third date that isn't just dinner/sitting down & talking. Problem is, in this town, despite having TWO colleges (one community & one public), feels like there's not much to do (there's ice skating, which I suucckkk at, and bowling off the top of my head).

 

[Ludovico]

I wanna figure out something for a third date that isn't just dinner/sitting down & talking.

My go to right now (is it bad to have a standard first date method?) is meeting at a book store. Plenty of parking, several places within walking distance for food, drinks, and music. Just grab a coffee, walk and talk and feel out interests while making fun of each other's reading choices.

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Someone mentioned a couple pages back, looking at Tinder profiles and activity timers. I hate the fact that I'm doing it, but I get extremely anxious waiting for responses or wondering if I killed the conversation or worse, if I'm not worth responding to.
Getting back into dating is so damn stressful...

 

[Whom_Gods_Annoy]

Alright this is the first time on dating gaf but I will give it a shot. I'm a senior in high school and have gotten to know this girl a lot better this year. I got her number two weeks ago from a mutual friend (all of us were getting together to study for AP exams). I have been texting her quite often the last two weeks, but so far out of the seven or eight "conversations" I've had with her she has only started one of them. I haven't really had a chance to talk to her face to face in awhile due to the amount of tests we've had. It might be a case of me overthinking it due to inexperience but because of that I'm getting the impression she isn't interested in me the same way I am with her.

However I have already asked several friends about it that are way more experienced dating wise if I should ask her out to lunch sometime, and all of them say there is a decent chance she will say yes and that a lunch date is an easy thing to do. What one of them told me to do that I wasn't planning on was waiting until AP tests were over since she is taking six of them and has been really stressed out. The problem with that now though is she has to take the late AP physics test the day after we graduate on Friday next week.

Again, I'm coming here completely out of lack of experience so I'm wondering if I should ask her before the end of the school year or wait until after where I might not actually have time over the summer to ask her face to face about it. Or should I even try to in the first place due to usually being the one who starts talking to her rather than the other way around? Is it normal for the guy to always be the one texting her first or is it a sign she isn't interested in me the same way I am in her?

 

[Pachimari]

Just broke up with my girlfriend after 3 years, and she is pissed. Now I'm sad.

Why do they always have to say so many bad things? I had hoped for a peaceful breakup as she had alluded to before, but she's clearly angry.
I have erased her number from my Google contacts and won't text her anymore.

I'll go drink and take the bus somewhere to be out in the Summer weather today.

Is this the right way to do it?

 

[War Peaceman]

2nd date finished. I would say that once again it went well. We were able to talk/eat for about an hour & it seems we might have a bit more in common (she actually might be working for an game store in another town). Bit bummed it didn't end with a kiss of sorts, but it did end with another hug, so that's good. Plus I kind of feel relieved that she's fine with stuff like video games & anime, two things that didn't make me popular with girls back in high school.

I wanna figure out something for a third date that isn't just dinner/sitting down & talking. Problem is, in this town, despite having TWO colleges (one community & one public), feels like there's not much to do (there's ice skating, which I suucckkk at, and bowling off the top of my head).

1. Just ask to kiss them
2. Go ice skating. Nothing wrong with making a fool of yourself, it shows you aren't too serious.

 

[ClosingADoor]

Again, I'm coming here completely out of lack of experience so I'm wondering if I should ask her before the end of the school year or wait until after where I might not actually have time over the summer to ask her face to face about it. Or should I even try to in the first place due to usually being the one who starts talking to her rather than the other way around? Is it normal for the guy to always be the one texting her first or is it a sign she isn't interested in me the same way I am in her?

I wouldn't read too much into the texting thing. Everyone uses that differently. When she starts texting you more, that is a good sign, but it isn't necessarily bad if she doesn't. I also feel too much texting before a date is bad, since I run out of things to talk about there. I try to use texting only to set up the date and then be done with it again.

Just ask her, you have nothing to lose here. Don't listen too much to what friends say, just do what you want to. If you want to ask her out, do so, or you'll regret it later. If she says no, you haven't really lost anything and you know right away instead of investing more time in it and keep on texting and talking for a week.

If you want to wait until finals are over, you can just ask her out through text, it doesn't really matter that much. If she is interested, she isn't suddenly going to say no because you didn't ask face to face.

 

[Zonic]

1. Just ask to kiss them
2. Go ice skating. Nothing wrong with making a fool of yourself, it shows you aren't too serious.

Less about making a fool of myself & more of the pain it puts on my legs. At least with the roller rink, it still might hurt my feel after a while, but I'm not as bad.

Also, so it IS okay to ask? I thought people said that breaks the mood or whatever? If anything, I'd rather get her permission as to not risk screwing things up & making it worse.

 

[GK86]

Don't ask for a kiss. Weak as fuck.

Did you try to make a move on your second date?