Fanart by Yuji Natsume. Seems Shovel Knight left an impression on Inticreates. Would be sweet if this actually got in the actual game but I'm not holding my breath
Well then... this is pretty great.
VAMPIRE DIGGER
DIRTY TEARS
Koji Igarashi Kickstarts Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night (2.5D, backdash, 2018)
- Thread starter PranooY
- Start date
Well then... this is pretty great.
VAMPIRE DIGGER
DIRTY TEARS
Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
A Vita version too? Yeah, I think I'm gonna retract my pledge and just wait for the full release. It's probably all for nothing, but I'm starting to worry about the overall scope of the game if it went from initially targeting PC/PS4/XB1, and then bringing in Wii U and Vita versions after the fact. I'll probably get shat on like crazy by supporters of the platforms, but so be it. I genuinely hope everything turns out OK, but it's better for me to be safe than sorry.
Finale Fireworker
Member
I know it's not a perfect equivalency, but Armature's port of the Metal Gear HD collection is a technical marvel. They got four games running at the best possible performance for the machine and the whole collection is really a testament to their capabilities.
In a world where Vita ports are often garbage, Armature knows their goddamn stuff. They are going to get Bloodstained perfectly optimized for the handheld. This is something I truly believe.
I am sure the same is true for the Wii U.
Suit yourself. You are worrying about absolutely nothing. And if the words of other backers and the repeated assurances of the developers themselves are not enough to sway you, then nothing but the finished product will.
In a world where Vita ports are often garbage, Armature knows their goddamn stuff. They are going to get Bloodstained perfectly optimized for the handheld. This is something I truly believe.
I am sure the same is true for the Wii U.
Suit yourself. You are worrying about absolutely nothing. And if the words of other backers and the repeated assurances of the developers themselves are not enough to sway you, then nothing but the finished product will.
SliceSabre
Banned
Wonder if those people who dropped their pledge cause they dared to make a WiiU version will just dropped out entirely because they dare to make a Vita version.
NormalFish
Banned
You actually think they're going to change the scope of the game due to ports lmao
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Just do what you think is best really! I'm still confident in things so I'm still on in the $150 tier for my physical PS4 copy and digtal PC, but don't let people shame you into doing something you're not comfortable with. (I'd get physical PC if it wasn't only Steam activated.)
If someone isn't confident in what they're getting they shouldn't be shamed for backing out when new info comes to light.
It's rather heavily downgraded, but I'm still kind of impressed that Injustice on Vita runs as well as it does, or that it runs at all.
NormalFish
Banned
I absolutely 100% agree. But if you're not comfortable about the game because it's getting ported to weaker systems by a 3rd party, you obviously weren't comfortable backing to begin with. The idea of becoming unsure of your investment because of said port is questionable, to say the least.
Unknown Soldier
Member
B-but Andrew House said Vita is a "legacy platform" now! What on Dracula's green Earth is going on!! Vita means Unlife!
I hope they add second screen functions for Vita and PS4 owners. If they are doing a Wii U port they should already have plans for the Gamepad screen so bringing that over to PS4 + Vita shouldn't be hard.
I hope they add second screen functions for Vita and PS4 owners. If they are doing a Wii U port they should already have plans for the Gamepad screen so bringing that over to PS4 + Vita shouldn't be hard.
You had to read all those pages of whining :/ I guess this is really system warz because many sane people in the beginning of the thread were pretty much convinced it would be a Might No 9 situation where handhelds and platforms with no official engine support would get outsourced so it wouldn't affect the development of the main game.
Thread was better in the very beginning before the bullshit.
3DS Version when? /s
It shall take the fire for its brother in arms, like a true hero.
Anyway, I hope that people will stop being upset about some outsourced ports. It's been quite ridiculous, frankly.
It shall take the fire for its brother in arms, like a true hero.
Anyway, I hope that people will stop being upset about some outsourced ports. It's been quite ridiculous, frankly.
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
It changes what someone might think about the scope of the project I think it's fine even though I believe nothing is really going to change regarding the new HD twins/PC versions.
Armature has done great work (at a technical level) for their Vita ports.
pretty sure they'll do a good job on Bloodstained for Vita
Finale Fireworker
Member
I agree. There will, realistically, be some concessions. But overall, I believe it will be the best possible Vita version of the game. Optimization sometimes means downgrading, and with checked expectations I am sure I will be thrilled with however Bloodstained appears on Vita.
Upped my pledge to two copies of the game.
Well yes, given that the concerns are the same I'm not sure the same people are going to care about re-engaging with various defense forces about it.
If they've already "compromised" their design vision by making a Wii U port, a Vita version isn't going to change how much they've "compromised".
After all if you can't develop anything the Wii U can't handle then you're pretty much already in the league of constraints of unable to develop anything the Vita can't handle.
I wish MGS HD ran at native res, but I can't deny just how good a job they did with MGS3 at least: unwavering 30 fps and probably the best controls of any version of the game with the stalking function being mapped to a simple shoulder toggle.
That's about what people should have been expecting from the very start. It's the same developer!
:O I should consider upping my pledge as well
The hilarious thing to me is that only one person seems to have mentioned any real grievances for the Vita port, yet we have nearly a full page of people complaining about the "many" people complaining about said port.
Like two others said, you're going to see less "whining" for the simple fact that it's retreading the same ground in an environment where you can't really win.
So, could we go to some more productive talk like you all claim to want? No... complaining about the complainers is not productive.
Not exactly since it seems Comcept picked up a good deal of the workload for MN9 rather than have it lie solely on Inti Creates.
Granted, if we see more of the same once gameplay videos show and what-have-you, we'll definitely have our culprits.
Like two others said, you're going to see less "whining" for the simple fact that it's retreading the same ground in an environment where you can't really win.
So, could we go to some more productive talk like you all claim to want? No... complaining about the complainers is not productive.
Not exactly since it seems Comcept picked up a good deal of the workload for MN9 rather than have it lie solely on Inti Creates.
Granted, if we see more of the same once gameplay videos show and what-have-you, we'll definitely have our culprits.
But they namedropped Guilty Gear Xrd this time! Surely this will be different! It will look amazing! Stop being so negative!
Hey now, they're using UE4 this time! It can't look that bad compared to MN9..... hopefully.
Great news regarding the Vita goal! Given the time remaining it should definitely be more than doable. Armature has a lot of solid work on Vita, so they're the right team for the job.
Wii U fans should be happy too, since it sounds like Armature would be more willing to do Gamepad stuff if they have another platform to port it to. I imagine PS4+PSV could emulate a lot of the same functionality.
Wii U fans should be happy too, since it sounds like Armature would be more willing to do Gamepad stuff if they have another platform to port it to. I imagine PS4+PSV could emulate a lot of the same functionality.
Dangerblade
Member
Vita port please! And physical Vita edition please! 
IGA doesn't have to make compromises. Armature will be the ones making compromises for both the Wii U and Vita (and maybe the eventual 3DS version).
How much did you throw at Might No 9 again? To be fair I certainly don't like how Azure Strikers and MN9 ended up gameplay wise so I'm not overflowing with confidence but I do know IGA managed to make good games with a limited budget so there's that .
Isn't it rather depressing that Armature has had such a bad run at getting projects of their own that even in the land of Kickstarter, where dreams are made into reality, they are relegated to being codemonkeys who are porting a game to platforms the main developer doesn't care to work on? From the Metroid Prime series to this... 
Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
After giving it some thought, I'll more than likely end up sticking with the game due to my love of the series. I think I would have been more comfortable with the Wii U and Vita ports had they flat out been included initially, but as long as they're their own thing and don't intrude on the original vision I'm fine with them. Here's hoping the juice is worth the squeeze.
Oh, and thanks for being respectful of my stance and not being a compete asshole like I expected most to be. It's not a Kickstarter thread unless someone is getting their devotion and intentions towards projects they put their hard earned money towards questioned.
Hopefully they at least watched this GDC talk on GGXrd graphics style vid:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhGjCzxJV3E
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Why people would be worried about Vita afecting the visuals of the game?
Wii U owners are now the ones that should be worried now, since I'm sure the Vita version will be based on the Wii U one. lol
(unless is 2D pixel art, which I want to believe it will be the case. BELIEVE!)
And so the curse of abandoning Nintendo lives on
Wii U owners are now the ones that should be worried now, since I'm sure the Vita version will be based on the Wii U one. lol
(unless is 2D pixel art, which I want to believe it will be the case. BELIEVE!)
Isn't it rather depressing that Armature has had such a bad run at getting projects of their own that even in the land of Kickstarter, where dreams are made into reality, they are relegated to being codemonkeys who are porting a game to platforms the main developer doesn't care to work on? From the Metroid Prime series to this...
And so the curse of abandoning Nintendo lives on
Isn't it rather depressing that Armature has had such a bad run at getting projects of their own that even in the land of Kickstarter, where dreams are made into reality, they are relegated to being codemonkeys who are porting a game to platforms the main developer doesn't care to work on? From the Metroid Prime series to this...
I'd be more concerned that they seem to be Vita specialists. Not sure how much of a future there is in that, but hey, at least they are branching out to Wii U development...
Isn't it rather depressing that Armature has had such a bad run at getting projects of their own that even in the land of Kickstarter, where dreams are made into reality, they are relegated to being codemonkeys who are porting a game to platforms the main developer doesn't care to work on? From the Metroid Prime series to this...
I mean, it already happened with Bluepoint, and they seem to be well regarded by now.
Sweet! I don't own a Vita but considering I loved all the Castlevanias on the GBA and DS (and Circle of the Moon was my first Castlevania that prompted me to explore older titles in the series) I'm glad there is a handheld version just as a mater of principle 
I watched the recent footage from the Japan Indie Expo and the game (PC version I assume) looked fine. Aside from artsytle and character design, which is subjective and Bloodstained will be completely different from, I have no idea what people hate about it. It really feels like a overreaction to the game not looking exactly like the CONCEPT art.
I watched the recent footage from the Japan Indie Expo and the game (PC version I assume) looked fine. Aside from artsytle and character design, which is subjective and Bloodstained will be completely different from, I have no idea what people hate about it. It really feels like a overreaction to the game not looking exactly like the CONCEPT art.
Isn't it rather depressing that Armature has had such a bad run at getting projects of their own that even in the land of Kickstarter, where dreams are made into reality, they are relegated to being codemonkeys who are porting a game to platforms the main developer doesn't care to work on? From the Metroid Prime series to this...
Like Bluepoint, they've found a good and steady niche to work on, porting games to several platforms. In this day and age, it's good if they can find a job that can keep their door open.
Isn't it rather depressing that Armature has had such a bad run at getting projects of their own that even in the land of Kickstarter, where dreams are made into reality, they are relegated to being codemonkeys who are porting a game to platforms the main developer doesn't care to work on? From the Metroid Prime series to this...
Considering that Batman: Arkham Origins Blackgate was mediocre at best, while their port work was great, I think it may be for the best. At least they are getting work.
zeopower6
Member
Probably. 2 weeks left with inevitable last-2-day-boost.